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            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "The Chair (Mr. John Williamson (New Brunswick Southwest, CPC))",
                "fr": "Le pr\u00e9sident (M. John Williamson (Nouveau-Brunswick-Sud-Ouest, PCC))"
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                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740430\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I call this meeting to order.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740431\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Welcome to meeting number 152 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Public Accounts.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740432\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Today\u2019s meeting is taking place in a hybrid format, pursuant to the Standing Orders. Members are attending in person in the room and remotely using the Zoom application.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740433\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Before we begin, I'd like to ask all in-person participants to read the guidelines written on the updated cards on the table. These measures are in place to help prevent audio feedback incidents and to protect the health and safety of all participants, including\u2014and especially\u2014our interpreters. I kindly remind all those in person, as well as online, that for the safety of our interpreters it is very important that your microphone is muted when you are not speaking. I remind you that all comments should be addressed through the chair.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740434\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)g), the committee is resuming consideration of report 6, Sustainable Development Technology Canada, of the 2024 reports 5 to 7 of the Auditor General of Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740435\" data-originallang=\"en\">I would like to welcome our witness. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740436\" data-originallang=\"en\">As an individual by video conference, we have Annette Verschuren, an officer of the Order of Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740437\" data-originallang=\"en\">Welcome, Ms. Verschuren. It's nice to have you here today. You have five minutes for opening remarks.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740430\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Je d\u00e9clare la s\u00e9ance ouverte.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740431\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Je vous souhaite la bienvenue \u00e0 la 152<sup>e</sup> r\u00e9union du Comit\u00e9 permanent des comptes publics de la Chambre des Communes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740432\" data-originallang=\"en\">La r\u00e9union d'aujourd'hui se d\u00e9roule en format hybride, conform\u00e9ment au R\u00e8glement. Certains d\u00e9put\u00e9s participent en personne, et d'autres sont connect\u00e9s via l'application Zoom.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740433\" data-originallang=\"en\">Avant de commencer, je demanderais \u00e0 tous les participants en personne de lire les consignes affich\u00e9es sur les cartes se trouvant sur les tables. Ces mesures visent \u00e0 pr\u00e9venir les incidents acoustiques et \u00e0 prot\u00e9ger la sant\u00e9 et la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 de tous les participants, y compris \u2014 et surtout \u2014 celle de nos interpr\u00e8tes. Je rappelle \u00e0 tous nos participants, ceux en personne et ceux en ligne, que pour assurer la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 de nos interpr\u00e8tes, il est tr\u00e8s important que votre microphone soit en sourdine lorsque vous n'intervenez pas. Je vous rappelle \u00e9galement que toutes les interventions doivent \u00eatre adress\u00e9es au pr\u00e9sident.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740434\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Conform\u00e9ment \u00e0 l'article 108(3)g) du R\u00e8glement, le Comit\u00e9 reprend l'examen du rapport 6 de la v\u00e9rificatrice g\u00e9n\u00e9rale du Canada, intitul\u00e9 \u00ab Technologies du d\u00e9veloppement durable Canada \u00bb, qui est tir\u00e9 des rapports 5 \u00e0 7 de 2024.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740435\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'aimerais souhaiter la bienvenue \u00e0 notre t\u00e9moin.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740436\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous entendrons aujourd'hui le t\u00e9moignage d'Annette Verschuren, offici\u00e8re de l'Ordre du Canada, qui compara\u00eetra \u00e0 titre personnel par vid\u00e9oconf\u00e9rence.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740437\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vous souhaite la bienvenue, madame Verschuren. Nous sommes ravis de vous avoir parmi nous aujourd'hui. Vous disposez de cinq minutes pour vos remarques liminaires.</p>"
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            "procedural": true,
            "source_id": "12999420",
            "document_url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/"
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        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "Mr. Larry Brock (Brantford\u2014Brant, CPC)",
                "fr": "M. Larry Brock (Brantford\u2014Brant, PCC)"
            },
            "content": {
                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740438\" data-originallang=\"en\">I have a point of order, Chair.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740438\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'invoque le R\u00e8glement, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident.</p>"
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            "politician_url": "/politicians/larry-brock/",
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            "source_id": "12999673",
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        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "The Chair",
                "fr": "Le pr\u00e9sident"
            },
            "content": {
                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740439\" data-originallang=\"en\">Wait one second, Ms. Verschuren. We have a point of order.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740440\" data-originallang=\"en\">Yes, Mr. Brock.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740439\" data-originallang=\"en\">Un instant, madame Verschuren, nous avons un rappel au R\u00e8glement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740440\" data-originallang=\"en\">Allez\u2011y, monsieur Brock.</p>"
            },
            "url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/the-chair-2/",
            "politician_url": "/politicians/john-williamson/",
            "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4533/",
            "procedural": true,
            "source_id": "12999664",
            "document_url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/"
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        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "Mr. Larry Brock",
                "fr": "M. Larry Brock"
            },
            "content": {
                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740441\" data-originallang=\"en\">I have a couple of issues, Chair.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740442\" data-originallang=\"en\">I noticed during the audio check for Ms. Verschuren that there were a number of people in the same room she is in. I'd like to have some clarification on whether they're still in the room, who those people are and whether or not they'll be communicating with her during her testimony.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740441\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'aurais quelques points \u00e0 soulever, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740442\" data-originallang=\"en\">Lors de la v\u00e9rification du son de Mme Verschuren, j'ai constat\u00e9 qu'elle n'\u00e9tait pas seule. J'aimerais savoir si ces personnes se trouvent toujours dans la pi\u00e8ce avec elle, qui elles sont et si elles communiqueront avec elle pendant son t\u00e9moignage.</p>"
            },
            "url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/larry-brock-2/",
            "politician_url": "/politicians/larry-brock/",
            "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4615/",
            "procedural": false,
            "source_id": "12999434",
            "document_url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/"
        },
        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "The Chair",
                "fr": "Le pr\u00e9sident"
            },
            "content": {
                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740443\" data-originallang=\"en\">You can pose those questions, Mr. Brock, at the time.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740444\" data-originallang=\"en\">Hold on for one second.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740445\" data-originallang=\"en\">I'm sorry about that. I just conferred with the clerk. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740446\" data-originallang=\"en\">Those are questions I'll allow you to pose during the questioning, Mr. Brock. I know it's been done before during questioning.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740447\" data-originallang=\"en\">I'll hear a point of order if you have further evidence I should consider.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740443\" data-originallang=\"en\">Vous aurez le droit de soulever ces questions le moment venu, monsieur Brock.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740444\" data-originallang=\"en\">Un instant, je vous prie.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740445\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je suis d\u00e9sol\u00e9. J'\u00e9tais en train de m'entretenir avec la greffi\u00e8re.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740446\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vous permettrai de poser ces questions pendant la p\u00e9riode de questions, monsieur Brock. Je sais que cela s'est d\u00e9j\u00e0 fait par le pass\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740447\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'accepterai d'entendre un rappel au R\u00e8glement si vous avez d'autres \u00e9l\u00e9ments de preuve \u00e0 pr\u00e9senter.</p>"
            },
            "url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/the-chair-3/",
            "politician_url": "/politicians/john-williamson/",
            "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4533/",
            "procedural": true,
            "source_id": "12999435",
            "document_url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/"
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        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "Mr. Larry Brock",
                "fr": "M. Larry Brock"
            },
            "content": {
                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740448\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I'm happy to do that, Chair.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740449\" data-originallang=\"en\">The second point of order I have, or the second aspect of the first point of order, is that, given the nature of the testimony, I'll be seeking unanimous consent to have the witness either sworn in or affirming to tell the truth.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740448\" data-originallang=\"en\">Parfait, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident, c'est ce que je ferai.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740449\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mon deuxi\u00e8me rappel au R\u00e8glement, ou le deuxi\u00e8me volet de mon rappel au R\u00e8glement, est li\u00e9 \u00e0 la nature du t\u00e9moignage. Je demanderai le consentement unanime pour faire assermenter la t\u00e9moin ou lui demander d'affirmer solennellement qu'elle dira la v\u00e9rit\u00e9.</p>"
            },
            "url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/larry-brock-3/",
            "politician_url": "/politicians/larry-brock/",
            "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4615/",
            "procedural": false,
            "source_id": "12999436",
            "document_url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/"
        },
        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "The Chair",
                "fr": "Le pr\u00e9sident"
            },
            "content": {
                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740450\" data-originallang=\"en\">I'm going to confer with the clerk on that. Wait one second, Mr. Brock. I'll come back to you.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740451\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Brock, your request is to seek UC for the witness either to be sworn in or to affirm to tell the truth. This requires all members' consent.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740452\" data-originallang=\"en\">Do I have consent for the clerk and I to put this into effect?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740453\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Drouin, you have the floor.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740450\" data-originallang=\"en\">Un instant, monsieur Brock, je vais v\u00e9rifier aupr\u00e8s de la greffi\u00e8re et je vous reviens.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740451\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur Brock, vous demandez le consentement unanime pour que la t\u00e9moin soit asserment\u00e9e ou qu'elle affirme solennellement qu'elle dira la v\u00e9rit\u00e9. Cela n\u00e9cessite le consentement de tous les d\u00e9put\u00e9s.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740452\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les d\u00e9put\u00e9s donnent-ils leur consentement pour proc\u00e9der de la sorte?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740453\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Monsieur Drouin, vous avez la parole.</p>"
            },
            "url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/the-chair-4/",
            "politician_url": "/politicians/john-williamson/",
            "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4533/",
            "procedural": true,
            "source_id": "12999437",
            "document_url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/"
        },
        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "Mr. Francis Drouin (Glengarry\u2014Prescott\u2014Russell, Lib.)",
                "fr": "M. Francis Drouin (Glengarry\u2014Prescott\u2014Russell, Lib.)"
            },
            "content": {
                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740454\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Mr. Chair, I've sat on committees for nine years now. I know Mr. Brock is not new, but he hasn't been here for nine years. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740455\" data-originallang=\"en\">I don't object to witnesses, obviously, telling the truth. It's the normal practice\u2014and our expectation\u2014for witnesses to tell the truth. There are other tools we can use if we believe witnesses are not telling the truth.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740456\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I would also say that it is known in this committee that members of Parliament also tell the truth as we opine. I'd say that we're all sworn to tell the truth. I certainly don't have an issue, but I would ask the same of Mr. Brock, as he opines during his questioning, to tell the truth as well.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740454\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Monsieur le pr\u00e9sident, cela fait maintenant neuf ans que je si\u00e8ge \u00e0 des comit\u00e9s. Je sais que M. Brock n'est pas nouveau, mais il n'est pas ici depuis neuf ans. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740455\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je ne suis pas contre le fait que les t\u00e9moins, \u00e9videmment, disent la v\u00e9rit\u00e9. C'est la pratique normale \u2014 et notre attente \u2014 que les t\u00e9moins disent la v\u00e9rit\u00e9. Il existe d'autres outils que nous pouvons utiliser si nous pensons que les t\u00e9moins ne disent pas la v\u00e9rit\u00e9. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740456\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Je dirais \u00e9galement qu'il est bien connu au sein de ce comit\u00e9 que les d\u00e9put\u00e9s disent \u00e9galement la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 lorsque nous exprimons notre opinion. Je dirais que nous avons tous pr\u00eat\u00e9 serment pour dire la v\u00e9rit\u00e9. Je n'ai aucun probl\u00e8me, mais je demanderais la m\u00eame chose \u00e0 M. Brock, lorsqu'il \u00e9met des opinions pendant son interrogatoire, de dire la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 \u00e9galement. </p>"
            },
            "url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/francis-drouin-1/",
            "politician_url": "/politicians/francis-drouin/",
            "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4192/",
            "procedural": false,
            "source_id": "12999445",
            "document_url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/"
        },
        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "The Chair",
                "fr": "Le pr\u00e9sident"
            },
            "content": {
                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740457\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Thank you.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740457\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci.</p>"
            },
            "url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/the-chair-5/",
            "politician_url": "/politicians/john-williamson/",
            "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4533/",
            "procedural": true,
            "source_id": "12999448",
            "document_url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/"
        },
        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "Mr. Larry Brock",
                "fr": "M. Larry Brock"
            },
            "content": {
                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740458\" data-originallang=\"en\">On the same point of order\u2014</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740458\" data-originallang=\"en\">Sur le m\u00eame rappel au R\u00e8glement...</p>"
            },
            "url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/larry-brock-4/",
            "politician_url": "/politicians/larry-brock/",
            "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4615/",
            "procedural": false,
            "source_id": "12999832",
            "document_url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/"
        },
        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "The Chair",
                "fr": "Le pr\u00e9sident"
            },
            "content": {
                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740459\" data-originallang=\"en\">I was going to say that it is noted, Mr. Drouin.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740460\" data-originallang=\"en\">I did not hear an objection from Mr. Drouin, so I'm still going to seek UC on that. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740461\" data-originallang=\"en\">Go ahead, Mr. Brock.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740459\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'allais dire que c'est not\u00e9, monsieur Drouin.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740460\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je n'ai pas entendu de contestation de la part de M. Drouin, donc je vais quand m\u00eame demander le consentement unanime \u00e0 ce sujet. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740461\" data-originallang=\"en\">Allez\u2011y, monsieur Brock.</p>"
            },
            "url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/the-chair-6/",
            "politician_url": "/politicians/john-williamson/",
            "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4533/",
            "procedural": true,
            "source_id": "12999820",
            "document_url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/"
        },
        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "Mr. Larry Brock",
                "fr": "M. Larry Brock"
            },
            "content": {
                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740462\" data-originallang=\"en\"> MP Brock and any other MP at this committee are not witnesses. We are members, who are duly sworn to represent our particular ridings. We are on this committee to ask witnesses questions.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740463\" data-originallang=\"en\">His analogy would be akin to me going back to my old life and having a judge interrupt me in the middle of an examination-in-chief or a cross-examination to say, \u201cMr. Brock, you need to be sworn in to tell the truth in the form of how you're going to pose the question.\u201d</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740464\" data-originallang=\"en\"> That is a ridiculous assessment by Monsieur Drouin. Either we have unanimous consent or not. Clearly, by his intervention, I think we don't have unanimous consent, but I'd like to hear that from him.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740462\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Le d\u00e9put\u00e9 Brock et tous les autres d\u00e9put\u00e9s pr\u00e9sents \u00e0 ce comit\u00e9 ne sont pas des t\u00e9moins. Nous sommes des d\u00e9put\u00e9s, d\u00fbment asserment\u00e9s pour repr\u00e9senter nos circonscriptions respectives. Nous si\u00e9geons \u00e0 ce comit\u00e9 pour poser des questions aux t\u00e9moins.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740463\" data-originallang=\"en\">Son analogie serait comme si je retournais \u00e0 mon ancienne vie et qu'un juge m'interrompait au milieu d'un interrogatoire principal ou d'un contre-interrogatoire pour me dire: \u00ab Monsieur Brock, vous devez \u00eatre asserment\u00e9 pour dire la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 sur la fa\u00e7on dont vous allez poser la question. \u00bb</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740464\" data-originallang=\"en\"> C'est une \u00e9valuation ridicule de la part de M. Drouin. Soit nous avons le consentement unanime, soit nous ne l'avons pas. Manifestement, par son intervention, je pense que nous n'avons pas le consentement unanime, mais j'aimerais qu'il me le dise.</p>"
            },
            "url": "/committees/public-accounts/44-1/152/larry-brock-5/",
            "politician_url": "/politicians/larry-brock/",
            "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4615/",
            "procedural": false,
            "source_id": "12999450",
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        },
        {
            "time": "2024-11-20 16:35:00",
            "attribution": {
                "en": "The Chair",
                "fr": "Le pr\u00e9sident"
            },
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                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740465\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Mr. Brock, no, that's not what what I heard. I'm going to call the question in a second here.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740466\" data-originallang=\"en\"> In fact, I heard quite the opposite from Mr. Drouin, but I'm going to make sure it's clear here, in case I heard it differently than you did, Mr. Brock. I will say to the same thing I said to Mr. Drouin: Your point is noted.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740467\" data-originallang=\"en\">I am seeking unanimous consent for the witness to be sworn and/or affirmed to tell the truth. Do I have that agreement from all members?</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740465\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur Brock, non, ce n'est pas ce que j'ai entendu. Je vais mettre la question aux voix dans une seconde.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740466\" data-originallang=\"en\"> En fait, j'ai entendu tout le contraire de la part de M. Drouin, mais je vais m'assurer que c'est clair, au cas o\u00f9 j'aurais entendu les choses diff\u00e9remment, monsieur Brock. Je vais dire la m\u00eame chose que ce que j'ai dit \u00e0 M. Drouin: Je prends note de votre remarque. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740467\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je demande le consentement unanime pour que la t\u00e9moin soit asserment\u00e9e ou affirme qu'elle dit la v\u00e9rit\u00e9. Ai\u2011je l'accord de tous les d\u00e9put\u00e9s?</p>"
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                "en": "Some hon. members",
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                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740468\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Agreed.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740468\" data-originallang=\"en\"> D'accord.</p>"
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            "attribution": {
                "en": "The Chair",
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                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740469\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I'm going to suspend this meeting for a few minutes while the clerk and I prepare for this.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740470\" data-originallang=\"en\"> This meeting is suspended for a couple of minutes.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740469\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Je vais suspendre la s\u00e9ance quelques minutes, le temps que la greffi\u00e8re et moi-m\u00eame nous pr\u00e9parions.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740470\" data-originallang=\"en\">La s\u00e9ance est suspendue pour quelques minutes.</p>"
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                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740471\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I will call this meeting back to order.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740472\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Drouin, you had your hand up briefly, but I see it's down now. Very good. We will proceed.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740473\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I'm going to turn this over to the clerk, who will run through this.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740474\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ms. Verschuren, could we have your attention, please?</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740471\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je d\u00e9clare la s\u00e9ance \u00e0 nouveau ouverte. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740472\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur Drouin, vous avez lev\u00e9 la main bri\u00e8vement, mais je vois qu'elle est baiss\u00e9e maintenant. Tr\u00e8s bien. Nous allons poursuivre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740473\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vais c\u00e9der la parole \u00e0 la greffi\u00e8re, qui va faire le tour de la question.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740474\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame Verschuren, votre attention, s'il vous pla\u00eet?</p>"
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                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740475\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Yes.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740475\" data-originallang=\"en\">Oui.</p>"
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                "en": "The Clerk of the Committee (Ms. Hilary Smyth)",
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                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740476\" data-originallang=\"en\">Do you swear that the evidence you shall give on this examination shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740476\" data-originallang=\"en\">Jurez-vous que la d\u00e9claration que vous ferez lors de cette audience sera la v\u00e9rit\u00e9, toute la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 et rien que la v\u00e9rit\u00e9?</p>"
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                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740477\" data-originallang=\"en\">I, Annette Verschuren, do solemnly, sincerely and truly affirm and declare that the evidence I shall give on this examination shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740477\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je, Annette Verschuren, affirme et d\u00e9clare solennellement, sinc\u00e8rement et v\u00e9ritablement que le t\u00e9moignage que je ferai lors de cette audience sera la v\u00e9rit\u00e9, toute la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 et rien que la v\u00e9rit\u00e9.</p>"
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                "en": "The Chair",
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                "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740478\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Thank you very much.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740479\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I will now turn it back to you for any opening remarks.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740480\" data-originallang=\"en\">You have up to five minutes, please. You have the floor.</p>",
                "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8740478\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci beaucoup.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740479\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vous redonne la parole pour vos remarques liminaires.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8740480\" data-originallang=\"en\">Vous avez jusqu'\u00e0 cinq minutes, je vous en prie. Vous avez la parole.</p>"
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