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"en": "The Chair (Hon. Mark Eyking (Sydney\u2014Victoria, Lib.))",
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092318\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to our Standing Committee on International Trade. Today is the first day of our study on progressive Canadian enterprises and small and medium-sized enterprises through electronic commerce. We have four witnesses presenting today. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092319\" data-originallang=\"en\">First, I would like to thank all of you for coming today on short notice. This study came forward only a week or so ago, and we appreciate that you were able to come here so soon. For anybody who has not presented before a committee before, we usually try to keep it to five minutes or under. We appreciate that. That gives us lots of time to have dialogue with the MPs afterwards. If for some reason you don't get all your thoughts forward, you can incorporate them as the dialogue goes on. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092320\" data-originallang=\"en\">Without further ado, we're going to start with the Canadian Freelance Union, Unifor, with Ethan Clarke, vice-president. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092321\" data-originallang=\"en\">Go ahead, sir, you have the floor.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092318\" data-originallang=\"en\">Bon apr\u00e8s-midi, tout le monde. Bienvenue au Comit\u00e9 permanent du commerce international. Nous entamons aujourd'hui notre \u00e9tude sur le commerce \u00e9lectronique pour les entreprises et les PME canadiennes progressistes. Nous entendrons les t\u00e9moins de quatre organisations.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092319\" data-originallang=\"en\">Pour commencer, je tiens \u00e0 vous remercier tous d'\u00eatre venus \u00e0 si bref avis. Cette \u00e9tude a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9cid\u00e9e il y a une semaine \u00e0 peine et nous sommes heureux que vous ayez pu vous joindre \u00e0 nous si t\u00f4t. Pour qui n'a jamais t\u00e9moign\u00e9 devant un comit\u00e9, nous essayons de nous en tenir \u00e0 cinq minutes ou moins, ce qui laisse amplement de temps pour discuter ensuite avec les d\u00e9put\u00e9s. Si pour quelque raison vous n'allez pas jusqu'au bout de vos r\u00e9flexions, il sera toujours temps de vous rattraper durant cette discussion.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092320\" data-originallang=\"en\">Sans plus tarder, nous accueillons le vice-pr\u00e9sident du Syndicat canadien des pigistes-Unifor, M. Ethan Clarke.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092321\" data-originallang=\"en\">La parole est \u00e0 vous, monsieur.</p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092322\" data-originallang=\"en\">My name is Ethan Clarke. I am the vice-president of the Canadian Freelance Union. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092323\" data-originallang=\"en\">We are a union of communications workers who have a freelance relationship with our employers or clients. Our union started as a response to the downsizing of newsrooms across the country about a decade ago. We are a community chapter of Unifor, the union. Unifor represents 310,000 workers across Canada, and specifically 12,000 journalists and media workers. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092324\" data-originallang=\"en\">The composition of our community chapter is very diverse, including journalists, writers, editors, videographers, photographers, web designer developers, graphic designers, and translators. I, for example, run a company that builds websites. Our members are younger than the Canadian average, with more than 35% under the age of 44. Despite more than a half of our members having a higher education degree, a half of our membership earns less than $35,000 a year.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092325\" data-originallang=\"en\">Our union has three main roles. First, we offer a break from the isolation inherent in the nature of our work. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092326\" data-originallang=\"en\">Second, we offer services that would be hard for freelancers to access on their own. Health plans, contract dispute resolution, and contract templates are all services that we offer. Buying these services together means that we can do so at a much lower rate than if we were to try to access these services as individuals.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092327\" data-originallang=\"en\">Finally, our union serves as a political voice for our members. We speak to those such as you, who have the ability to improve the lives of freelancers, about the changes that we need. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092328\" data-originallang=\"en\">Working in the digital field means that our members are on the front lines of the transformations of many different industries. We're affected by the lack of regulation of the Canadian digital and online media sector leading to underfunding and an absence of good, stable jobs. We're affected by the fact that work in Canada is becoming more precarious. While some of our membership are freelancers by choice, the reality remains that many of them are freelancers because of the lack of good media jobs in Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092329\" data-originallang=\"en\">Our union, Unifor, has played a leading role in defining the new vision of NAFTA that works for Canadians. Just like trade more generally, e-commerce is not an end in itself. Trade is a means to a higher end, namely sustenance, economic security, and material prosperity. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092330\" data-originallang=\"en\">From a labour perspective, the problem with Canada's current free trade regime is that it elevates capital above labour, privileges proprietors at the expense of workers, and strengthens the social position of business to the detriment of the public. Accordingly, any attempt to update our approach to e-commerce and trade should take account of the following principles, especially from a freelance worker's perspective. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092331\" data-originallang=\"en\">There should be special attention to the production of local cultural content. Canada and the provinces must be free to regulate to ensure there is space for Canadian artists, creative professionals, and cultural producers. There should be extra care given to workers' rights and working conditions even for workers in freelance positions. Fair compensation, a safe work environment, paid time off, sick leave, overtime, secure retirement, these are some of the things that many Canadian workers enjoy as a consequence of generations of workplace struggle.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092332\" data-originallang=\"en\">By freeing capital to move over national borders and by enhancing the power of investors generally, investor rights agreements like NAFTA pit workers in Canada with workers in the United States and Mexico. Any changes to e-commerce rules should not exert downward pressure on the quality of work life that Canadians enjoy. An improvement in the conditions and compensation of work should be understood as the goal to be pursued, not a threat to be neutralized. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092333\" data-originallang=\"en\">There is a range of regulatory tools that can be used by the federal government to help grow, strengthen, and sustain Canadian content in the digital age. The first is to maintain and improve the current mix of tax and regulatory tools designed to promote and support Canadian content and ensure there are no more exceptions given to either foreign or Canadian online media services. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092334\" data-originallang=\"en\">The second is Canadian content obligations for both foreign and domestic over-the-top television service providers. Streaming video companies like Netflix and Google are capturing a growing share of audiences and should deliver a commitment to Canadian content comparable to other existing services.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092335\" data-originallang=\"en\">The third is a revenue levy on domestic ISP providers. A 5% levy on monthly Internet bills above $25 could inject more than $118 million annually to support the production of Canadian news and entertainment.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092336\" data-originallang=\"en\"> In conclusion, we hope that the committee will look at e-commerce as a way to elevate working conditions for freelancers and creative workers here in Canada. We believe that in e-commerce, and in trade agreements generally, our governments should maintain the ability to take action in support of Canadian culture and content. The absence of proper rules regulating the ability of companies in Canada to outsource work internationally would be detrimental to freelance workers, whose livelihoods depend on a strong, vibrant Canadian media, digital, and cultural sector.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092337\" data-originallang=\"en\">I thank you for the opportunity to present here today, and I look forward to your questions.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092322\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je m'appelle Ethan Clarke et je suis vice-pr\u00e9sident du Syndicat canadien des pigistes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092323\" data-originallang=\"en\">Notre syndicat regroupe des travailleurs en communications qui ont une relation de pigistes avec leurs employeurs ou leurs clients. Il a \u00e9t\u00e9 cr\u00e9\u00e9 \u00e0 la suite de la r\u00e9duction des effectifs des salles de nouvelles survenue il y a une dizaine d'ann\u00e9es \u00e0 travers le pays. Nous sommes une section corporative du syndicat Unifor, qui repr\u00e9sente 310 000 travailleurs au Canada, en particulier 12 000 journalistes et travailleurs des m\u00e9dias.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092324\" data-originallang=\"en\">Notre section est tr\u00e8s diverse; elle comprend des journalistes, des \u00e9crivains, des r\u00e9dacteurs, des vid\u00e9ographes, des photographes, des concepteurs et d\u00e9veloppeurs Web, des graphistes et des traducteurs. Moi, par exemple, je dirige une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 qui construit des sites Web. Nos membres sont plus jeunes que la moyenne canadienne et plus de 35 % ont moins de 44 ans. Bien que plus de la moiti\u00e9 de nos membres aient un dipl\u00f4me d'\u00e9tudes sup\u00e9rieures, un sur deux gagne moins de 35 000 $ par ann\u00e9e.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092325\" data-originallang=\"en\">Notre syndicat remplit trois fonctions principales. Premi\u00e8rement, il brise l'isolement inh\u00e9rent \u00e0 la nature de notre travail.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092326\" data-originallang=\"en\">Deuxi\u00e8mement, il offre des services auxquels les pigistes auraient difficilement acc\u00e8s tout seuls. Nous offrons par exemple des r\u00e9gimes de sant\u00e9, le r\u00e8glement des diff\u00e9rends contractuels et des mod\u00e8les de contrat. En tant que collectif, nous pouvons acc\u00e9der \u00e0 ces services \u00e0 un bien meilleur prix que si nous essayions de les acheter chacun pour soi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092327\" data-originallang=\"en\">Enfin, notre syndicat nous sert de porte-parole politique. Il expose les changements dont nous avons besoin devant des gens qui, comme vous, ont le pouvoir d'am\u00e9liorer le sort des pigistes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092328\" data-originallang=\"en\">En travaillant dans le domaine num\u00e9rique, nos membres sont aux premi\u00e8res lignes des transformations qui se produisent dans de nombreux secteurs d'activit\u00e9. Nous sommes victimes du manque de r\u00e9glementation du secteur canadien du num\u00e9rique et des m\u00e9dias en ligne, qui entra\u00eene un sous-financement et une absence de bons emplois stables. Nous sommes touch\u00e9s par la pr\u00e9carisation du travail au Canada. Si certains de nos membres sont pigistes par choix, il reste qu'un grand nombre le sont parce qu'il y a p\u00e9nurie de bons emplois dans les m\u00e9dias au Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092329\" data-originallang=\"en\">Notre syndicat parent, Unifor, a contribu\u00e9 largement \u00e0 d\u00e9finir une nouvelle vision de l'ALENA qui fonctionne pour les Canadiens. Tout comme le commerce en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, le commerce \u00e9lectronique n'est pas une fin en soi. Il est un moyen de parvenir \u00e0 une fin plus \u00e9lev\u00e9e, \u00e0 savoir la subsistance, la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 \u00e9conomique et la prosp\u00e9rit\u00e9 mat\u00e9rielle.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092330\" data-originallang=\"en\">Du point de vue des travailleurs, le probl\u00e8me avec le r\u00e9gime actuel de libre-\u00e9change du Canada est qu'il place le capital au-dessus du travail, qu'il privil\u00e9gie les propri\u00e9taires au d\u00e9triment des travailleurs et qu'il renforce la position sociale de l'entreprise au d\u00e9triment de la population. Par cons\u00e9quent, toute tentative de modernisation de notre approche du commerce et des \u00e9changes \u00e9lectroniques devrait s'inspirer des principes suivants, en particulier du point de vue d'un travailleur pigiste.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092331\" data-originallang=\"en\">Il faudrait porter une attention particuli\u00e8re \u00e0 la production de contenu culturel local. Le Canada et les provinces doivent \u00eatre libres de r\u00e9glementer de fa\u00e7on \u00e0 garantir une place aux artistes, aux cr\u00e9ateurs et aux producteurs canadiens. Il faut se soucier davantage des droits des travailleurs et des conditions de travail, m\u00eame dans le secteur de la pige. Une juste r\u00e9mun\u00e9ration, un milieu de travail s\u00e9curitaire, des cong\u00e9s pay\u00e9s, des cong\u00e9s de maladie, un juste traitement des heures suppl\u00e9mentaires, une retraite s\u00fbre, voil\u00e0 autant d'avantages dont profitent un grand nombre de Canadiens apr\u00e8s des g\u00e9n\u00e9rations de lutte ouvri\u00e8re.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092332\" data-originallang=\"en\">En permettant au capital de circuler librement par-del\u00e0 les fronti\u00e8res nationales et en renfor\u00e7ant le pouvoir des investisseurs en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, des accords comme l'ALENA opposent les travailleurs du Canada \u00e0 ceux des \u00c9tats-Unis et du Mexique. Tout changement aux r\u00e8gles du commerce \u00e9lectronique ne devrait pas faire baisser la qualit\u00e9 de vie professionnelle dont b\u00e9n\u00e9ficient les Canadiens. Une am\u00e9lioration des conditions de travail et des salaires devrait \u00eatre vue comme le but \u00e0 atteindre, non pas comme une menace \u00e0 neutraliser.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092333\" data-originallang=\"en\">Divers moyens s'offrent au gouvernement f\u00e9d\u00e9ral pour faire grandir, renforcer et pr\u00e9server le contenu canadien \u00e0 l'\u00e8re num\u00e9rique. Le premier est de maintenir et d'am\u00e9liorer la combinaison actuelle de mesures fiscales et r\u00e9glementaires destin\u00e9es \u00e0 promouvoir et \u00e0 financer la cr\u00e9ation de contenu canadien et de veiller \u00e0 ne plus accorder d'exemptions aux services de m\u00e9dias en ligne, qu'ils soient \u00e9trangers ou canadiens.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092334\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le deuxi\u00e8me est d'imposer des obligations de contenu canadien aux fournisseurs \u00e9trangers et canadiens de t\u00e9l\u00e9vision par contournement. Les soci\u00e9t\u00e9s de vid\u00e9o continue comme Netflix et Google accaparent une part croissante de l'auditoire et devraient s'engager \u00e0 offrir un contenu canadien comparable \u00e0 celui d'autres services.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092335\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le troisi\u00e8me serait de taxer les revenus des fournisseurs canadiens d'acc\u00e8s Internet. Une taxe de 5 % sur les factures mensuelles de plus de 25 $ d\u00e9gagerait chaque ann\u00e9e plus de 118 millions de dollars \u00e0 investir dans la production de contenu d'information et de divertissement canadien.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092336\" data-originallang=\"en\">En terminant, nous esp\u00e9rons que le Comit\u00e9 verra dans le commerce \u00e9lectronique un moyen de rehausser les conditions de travail des pigistes et des cr\u00e9ateurs ici au Canada. Nous croyons qu'en ce domaine, comme dans les accords commerciaux en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, nos gouvernements devraient se r\u00e9server le pouvoir d'intervenir en faveur de la culture et du contenu canadiens. L'absence de r\u00e8gles propres \u00e0 encadrer le pouvoir des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s de confier du travail \u00e0 des sous-traitants \u00e9trangers nuirait aux pigistes, dont le gagne-pain d\u00e9pend d'un vigoureux secteur canadien des m\u00e9dias, du num\u00e9rique et de la culture.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092337\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci de nous offrir l'occasion de nous exprimer ici aujourd'hui. Je me ferai un plaisir de r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 vos questions.</p>"
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"time": "2017-10-23 15:35:00",
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092338\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you, sir.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092339\" data-originallang=\"en\">We're going to move over to the Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters. We have Mathew Wilson, senior vice-president; and Michael Holden, chief economist. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092340\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you for coming, gentlemen. You have the floor.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092338\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci, monsieur.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092339\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous entendrons maintenant les repr\u00e9sentants des Manufacturiers et exportateurs du Canada: M. Mathew Wilson, premier vice-pr\u00e9sident, et M. Michael Holden, \u00e9conomiste en chef.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092340\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci de votre pr\u00e9sence, messieurs. Vous avez la parole.</p>"
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"en": "Mr. Mathew Wilson (Senior Vice-President, Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters)",
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092341\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Good afternoon, Mr. Chair and members of the committee.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092342\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you for inviting us here today to speak on behalf of Canada's 90,000 manufacturers and exporters and our association's 2,500 direct members to discuss e-commerce and its impact and opportunities for Canadian SMEs.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092343\" data-originallang=\"en\">Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters is Canada's largest industry and trade association, with offices in every province, and is the chair of the Canadian Manufacturing Coalition, which represents 55 sectoral manufacturing associations. More than 85% of our members are SMEs representing every industrial sector, every export sector, and all regions of the country.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092344\" data-originallang=\"en\">Manufacturing is the single largest business sector in Canada. In Canada, manufacturing sales surpassed $600 billion in 2016 for the third consecutive year, directly accounting for over 11% of Canada's economic output, while employing more than 1.7 million Canadians directly in highly productive, value-added, high-paying jobs. Manufacturers are also directly responsible for the majority of Canada's exports. In 2015 and 2016 manufactured goods exports accounted for almost 70% of total Canadian exports. Nearly 80% of those exports go to our NAFTA partners.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092345\" data-originallang=\"en\">While the sector is critical to Canada's current and future prosperity, manufacturing in Canada and around the world is going through tremendous changes, including major shifts in economic and market conditions, acceleration in the creation and adoption of new technologies, and changing political and policy priorities. In addition to these shifts, manufacturing itself has become much more globalized for production and customer bases, and the lines between manufacturing, services, and technologies are rapidly blurring. This is the challenge for manufacturers, as the production processes they use, the goods they produce, and the skills of their workforce are undergoing constant change.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092346\" data-originallang=\"en\">However, these technologies are also providing new and significant opportunities. We see four core areas that are changing in manufacturing as a result of technology and e-commerce: retail consumer sales, B2B transactions, product design and commercialization, and production.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092347\" data-originallang=\"en\">Retail consumer sales often get the most headlines and attention. Canadians are buying more and more of their goods online\u2014everything from groceries to music to computers. From an SME business perspective, this provides great opportunities as well as challenges. Obviously it means that there is much more competition at home from retailers based all around the world and selling products through websites such as Amazon or eBay. But it also means that Canadian SMEs have access to billions of consumers around the world and the opportunity to dramatically increase sales and exports.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092348\" data-originallang=\"en\">B2B transactions are not as well covered but are very similar to the retail environment. Companies today have access to a world of business partners who can provide them highly specialized services, technology, and equipment to help them grow. They are also faced with increased competition at home and abroad to sell similar services. Companies like Amazon are now looking at setting up exclusive B2B portals to mirror the consumer retail sales sites. Leveraging e-commerce sales, including through platforms like these, is becoming a requirement for participating in global value chains.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092349\" data-originallang=\"en\">The third area where e-commerce is having a potential impact is around product design and commercialization. Companies today are leveraging technologies to create new innovative products and processes through real-time, multi-location research and design and testing. These technologies are rapidly speeding up time for product development and time to market for new products. Access to e-commerce platforms makes it cheaper and easier to learn about and purchase these technologies from both domestic and overseas suppliers.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092350\" data-originallang=\"en\">The final area of note for manufacturers and exporters is on process control. Today technology allows a company, or a service provider, to operate an entire plant and all the machinery and equipment within it from anywhere in the world. Some companies are working toward complete automation of production in this manner to reduce the cost of production labour to shift those resources to higher skill, higher value-added activities, such as R and D.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092351\" data-originallang=\"en\">Overarching all these issues is Canada's ongoing challenge with productivity and competitiveness. Because of declining business investment, skills shortages, a poor record on innovation and commercialization, and a range of other issues, Canadian manufacturers are struggling to compete globally.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092352\" data-originallang=\"en\">E-commerce and online trade offer a potential solution. Studies show that companies that shift toward greater online sales enjoy significant production gains as a result. But there is a catch-22 here. To be successful at leveraging e-commerce opportunities, our businesses will have to be as competitive as possible. In other words, we need to improve our productivity in order to realize potential gains from e-commerce.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092353\" data-originallang=\"en\">With all these changes and challenges, companies are, frankly, struggling to keep up and remain globally competitive. At the same time, these changes are providing massive new opportunities, but they cannot take advantage of them without a better, more modern framework. Some of the most critical issues are as follows.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092354\" data-originallang=\"en\">First, companies need to invest in more advanced technologies to take advantage of the e-commerce opportunities, yet in Canada our investment levels in new technologies continue to fall behind those of international competitors. U.S. manufacturers, for example, invest more than eight times the amount of a similar size Canadian manufacturer. The government must do more to help companies invest in technologies and software, including through enhanced depreciation rates through the ACCA program.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092355\" data-originallang=\"en\">Second, Canada needs to have better digital infrastructure. It is often too expensive and not up to necessary speeds for modern manufacturing to operate in a digital e-commerce world. We cannot stress this issue enough. Internet data and mobile phone fees are among the very highest in the industrialized world. Our businesses cannot hope to be competitive for as long as that remains true.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092356\" data-originallang=\"en\">Third, free trade agreements must be modernized to include digital trade and e-commerce protocols. The TPP, which is being relaunched without the U.S., has a chapter on these issues that is supported broadly by industry. This chapter should be made part of the modernized NAFTA and other FTAs moving forward to provide stronger trade protections for SMEs and secure flow of data.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092357\" data-originallang=\"en\">Fourth, SMEs need help in understanding the opportunities that e-commerce provides both at home and abroad, and should be encouraged to participate both in B2B and B2C activities.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092358\" data-originallang=\"en\">Finally, Canada should do a better job in promoting goods that are designed, engineered, and made in Canada. Our products and technologies are world class, and consumers around the world will buy them if they know about them. We need a \u201cmade in Canada\u201d branding program that can be used to promote Canadian-made goods to consumers both at home and abroad.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092359\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you again for inviting us here today. I look forward to the discussion.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092341\" data-originallang=\"en\">Bon apr\u00e8s-midi, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident, mesdames et messieurs.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092342\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci de nous inviter \u00e0 parler au nom des 90 000 manufacturiers et exportateurs du Canada et des 2 500 membres directs de notre association, au sujet du commerce \u00e9lectronique, de ses incidences et de ses d\u00e9bouch\u00e9s pour les PME canadiennes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092343\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les Manufacturiers et exportateurs du Canada constituent la plus grande association corporative du pays. Elle compte des bureaux dans chaque province et elle assure la pr\u00e9sidence de la Coalition des manufacturiers du Canada, un regroupement de 55 associations sectorielles. Plus de 85 % de nos membres sont des PME recrut\u00e9es dans tous les secteurs d'activit\u00e9 industrielle, dans tous les secteurs d'exportation et dans toutes les r\u00e9gions du pays.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092344\" data-originallang=\"en\">La fabrication est le premier secteur d'activit\u00e9 commerciale au Canada. En 2016, ses ventes ont d\u00e9pass\u00e9 600 milliards de dollars pour la troisi\u00e8me ann\u00e9e cons\u00e9cutive, comptant directement pour plus de 11 % de la production nationale. Elle emploie directement plus de 1,7 million de Canadiens dans des postes hautement productifs, qui ajoutent de la valeur et sont bien r\u00e9mun\u00e9r\u00e9s. Elle est aussi la source directe de la majorit\u00e9 des exportations du pays. En 2015 et 2016, elle comptait pour pr\u00e8s de 70 % du total des exportations canadiennes, avec ses produits destin\u00e9s \u00e0 pr\u00e8s de 80 % \u00e0 nos partenaires de l'ALENA.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092345\" data-originallang=\"en\">Si elle est essentielle, donc, \u00e0 notre prosp\u00e9rit\u00e9 actuelle et future, la fabrication chez nous comme dans le monde entier subit d'\u00e9normes transformations, dont des virages importants du climat \u00e9conomique et commercial, la cr\u00e9ation et l'adoption acc\u00e9l\u00e9r\u00e9es de nouvelles technologies et l'\u00e9volution des priorit\u00e9s politiques et des orientations strat\u00e9giques. La production et les client\u00e8les se mondialisent de plus en plus et les d\u00e9marcations s'estompent rapidement entre fabrication, services et technologies. Voil\u00e0 \u00e0 quoi se mesurent les manufacturiers: l'\u00e9volution constante des proc\u00e9d\u00e9s qu'ils utilisent, des biens qu'ils produisent et des comp\u00e9tences de leur main-d'oeuvre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092346\" data-originallang=\"en\">Toutefois, ces technologies ouvrent aussi des perspectives nouvelles et appr\u00e9ciables. Nous voyons quatre domaines principaux o\u00f9 la fabrication se transforme sous l'effet de la technologie et du commerce \u00e9lectronique: les ventes de consommation au d\u00e9tail, les transactions interentreprises, la conception et la commercialisation de produits et, enfin, la production m\u00eame.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092347\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les ventes de consommation re\u00e7oivent souvent le plus d'attention dans les m\u00e9dias. Les Canadiens ach\u00e8tent de plus en plus en ligne, qu'il s'agisse de leur \u00e9picerie, de leur musique ou de leurs ordinateurs. Pour une petite entreprise, cela suppose autant des occasions \u00e0 saisir que des obstacles \u00e0 surmonter. \u00c9videmment, la concurrence chez nous est beaucoup plus vive de la part de d\u00e9taillants du monde entier qui vendent leurs produits par des sites Web comme Amazon et eBay. En revanche, en ayant elles aussi acc\u00e8s \u00e0 des milliards de consommateurs, nos PME pourraient enregistrer une augmentation spectaculaire des ventes et des exportations.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092348\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les transactions interentreprises font moins les manchettes, mais elles ressemblent beaucoup au commerce de d\u00e9tail. Les soci\u00e9t\u00e9s aujourd'hui ont acc\u00e8s \u00e0 tout un monde de partenaires commerciaux qui peuvent leur fournir des services, de la technologie et de l'\u00e9quipement hautement sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9s pour les aider \u00e0 grandir. Elles affrontent aussi une concurrence plus vive chez elles et \u00e0 l'\u00e9tranger pour vendre des services semblables. Des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s comme Amazon envisagent maintenant de cr\u00e9er des portails exclusifs \u00e0 l'image des sites de vente au d\u00e9tail. Le levier des ventes \u00e9lectroniques, y compris sur des plateformes comme celles-ci, devient incontournable pour qui veut s'ins\u00e9rer dans des cha\u00eenes de valeur plan\u00e9taires.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092349\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le troisi\u00e8me domaine est celui de la conception et de la commercialisation de produits. Gr\u00e2ce aux nouvelles technologies, des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s aujourd'hui cr\u00e9ent des produits et des proc\u00e9d\u00e9s novateurs en effectuant en temps r\u00e9el en de nombreux endroits la recherche, la conception et l'exp\u00e9rimentation. Ces technologies r\u00e9duisent consid\u00e9rablement le temps n\u00e9cessaire pour mettre au point de nouveaux produits et les mettre en march\u00e9. En acc\u00e9dant aux plateformes du commerce \u00e9lectronique, il devient moins cher et plus facile de s'informer de ces technologies et de se les procurer aupr\u00e8s de fournisseurs nationaux et \u00e9trangers.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092350\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le dernier domaine d'int\u00e9r\u00eat pour les manufacturiers et les exportateurs est celui du contr\u00f4le de la production. Il est possible aujourd'hui \u00e0 une entreprise ou \u00e0 un fournisseur de services d'exploiter une usine enti\u00e8re, avec toutes les machines et l'\u00e9quipement qu'elle contient, \u00e0 partir de n'importe o\u00f9 dans le monde. Certaines cherchent ainsi \u00e0 automatiser enti\u00e8rement la production afin de r\u00e9duire les frais de main-d'oeuvre et d'affecter plut\u00f4t les ressources humaines \u00e0 des activit\u00e9s de plus haute sp\u00e9cialisation et de plus grande valeur ajout\u00e9e, comme la recherche-d\u00e9veloppement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092351\" data-originallang=\"en\">Au-dessus de tous ces enjeux se profilent les difficult\u00e9s persistantes du Canada en mati\u00e8re de productivit\u00e9 et de comp\u00e9titivit\u00e9. \u00c0 cause du d\u00e9clin de l'investissement d'affaires, des p\u00e9nuries de comp\u00e9tences, d'un pi\u00e8tre bilan d'innovation et de commercialisation et d'une foule d'autres raisons, les manufacturiers canadiens ont du mal \u00e0 soutenir la concurrence mondiale.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092352\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le commerce \u00e9lectronique offre peut-\u00eatre une solution. Des \u00e9tudes d\u00e9montrent que les entreprises qui misent sur les ventes en ligne font d'importants gains de production. Mais il y a un hic. Pour exploiter avec succ\u00e8s les occasions de l'\u00e8re num\u00e9rique, nos entreprises vont devoir \u00eatre aussi comp\u00e9titives que possible. Autrement dit, nous devons am\u00e9liorer notre productivit\u00e9 pour r\u00e9aliser les gains que promet le commerce \u00e9lectronique.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092353\" data-originallang=\"en\">Avec tous ces changements et tous ces d\u00e9fis, il y a des entreprises qui, avouons-le, ont du mal \u00e0 tenir la cadence de la concurrence mondiale. En m\u00eame temps, ces changements ouvrent de nouveaux d\u00e9bouch\u00e9s extraordinaires, mais elles ne pourront pas en profiter pleinement \u00e0 moins qu'on ne leur offre un cadre meilleur et plus moderne. Voici quelques-uns des enjeux les plus cruciaux.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092354\" data-originallang=\"en\">Premi\u00e8rement, les entreprises doivent investir dans des technologies plus avanc\u00e9es pour profiter des d\u00e9bouch\u00e9s du commerce \u00e9lectronique; pourtant au Canada, nous nous laissons distancer par nos concurrents \u00e9trangers \u00e0 ce chapitre. Un fabricant am\u00e9ricain, par exemple, investit plus de huit fois le montant qu'y met un fabricant canadien de taille comparable. Le gouvernement doit mieux aider les entreprises \u00e0 investir dans les technologies et les logiciels, notamment en haussant les taux d'amortissement applicables.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092355\" data-originallang=\"en\">Deuxi\u00e8mement, le Canada a besoin d'une meilleure infrastructure num\u00e9rique. Le service est souvent trop cher et n'offre pas les vitesses n\u00e9cessaires pour fonctionner dans l'univers du commerce \u00e9lectronique. Nous ne saurions trop insister l\u00e0-dessus: nos frais de donn\u00e9es Internet et de t\u00e9l\u00e9phonie mobile sont parmi les plus \u00e9lev\u00e9s du monde industrialis\u00e9. Nos entreprises ne pourront pas \u00eatre comp\u00e9titives tant qu'il en sera ainsi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092356\" data-originallang=\"en\">Troisi\u00e8mement, les accords de libre-\u00e9change doivent \u00eatre modernis\u00e9s et inclure des protocoles de transactions num\u00e9riques et de commerce \u00e9lectronique. Le Partenariat transpacifique, qui est relanc\u00e9 sans la participation des \u00c9tats-Unis, comporte un chapitre \u00e0 ce sujet qui re\u00e7oit l'adh\u00e9sion g\u00e9n\u00e9rale de l'industrie. Il faudrait l'int\u00e9grer dans l'ALENA ren\u00e9goci\u00e9 et les futurs accords de libre-\u00e9change afin d'offrir aux PME de meilleures protections commerciales et un flux de donn\u00e9es s\u00e9curitaire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092357\" data-originallang=\"en\">Quatri\u00e8mement, les PME ont besoin d'aide pour comprendre les perspectives qui s'ouvrent au pays et \u00e0 l'\u00e9tranger et elles devraient \u00eatre encourag\u00e9es \u00e0 se mettre \u00e0 l'heure des transactions interenterprises et du commerce \u00e9lectronique de d\u00e9tail.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092358\" data-originallang=\"en\">Enfin, le Canada devrait mieux promouvoir les produits con\u00e7us, mis au point et fabriqu\u00e9s chez lui. Nos produits et nos technologies sont de calibre mondial et les consommateurs du monde entier vont les acheter s'ils en ont connaissance. Nous avons besoin d'une campagne pour faire conna\u00eetre autant chez nous qu'\u00e0 l'\u00e9tranger la marque du produit \u00ab fabriqu\u00e9 au Canada \u00bb.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092359\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci encore une fois de nous avoir invit\u00e9s. Je me ferai un plaisir de discuter avec vous.</p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092360\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you, gentlemen.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092361\" data-originallang=\"en\">We're going to move on to the Canadian Union of Public Employees. We have two people with us today. We have Toby Sanger, senior economist; and Nathalie Blais, the research representative.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092362\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Welcome, and you have the floor.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092360\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci, messieurs.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092361\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous entendrons maintenant les repr\u00e9sentants du Syndicat canadien de la fonction publique: M. Toby Sanger, \u00e9conomiste principal, et Mme Nathalie Blais, repr\u00e9sentante \u00e0 la recherche.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092362\" data-originallang=\"en\">Bienvenue \u00e0 vos deux. Vous avez la parole.</p>"
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"en": "Mr. Toby Sanger (Senior Economist, Canadian Union of Public Employees)",
"fr": "M. Toby Sanger (\u00e9conomiste principal, Syndicat canadien de la fonction publique)"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092363\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Thanks very much for the opportunity to discuss this very important issue.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092364\" data-originallang=\"en\">We've been concerned about the taxation of e-commerce for many years because of its impact on our members with significant job loss in the media industry, and its impact on the broader economy, our social and culture life, and also on our democracy.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092365\" data-originallang=\"en\">Foreign producers are not required to collect sales taxes on digital products or services imported into Canada if they aren't considered to be carrying on business here. This creates a very significant bias against Canadian producers. Not only are our governments losing out on significant revenues, but we're suffering economically and culturally, with a loss of jobs, main street businesses, and a weakening of our media. As e-commerce becomes more pervasive in many different sectors and results in greater concentration and monopolization, these problems are growing exponentially.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092366\" data-originallang=\"en\">The OECD highlighted taxation of the digital economy as action number one in its major 2015 base erosion and profit shifting, or BEPS, plan. Canada is now one of a few major countries around the world that hasn't introduced changes to require foreign-based digital businesses to collect and remit sales taxes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092367\" data-originallang=\"en\">There's no reason why we can't move forward on this. We should also strongly resist pressure to increase the NAFTA de minimis threshold for imports from $20 to $200 or $800. I know you've discussed this issue.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092368\" data-originallang=\"en\">In my 25 years of involvement in tax policy, this issue of taxation of e-commerce or foreign digital services is one of the clearest no-brainers, in my opinion. It involves removing a tax bias against domestic producers, who are also often small and medium-sized enterprises. If the federal government really wants to do something positive on taxation for small business, which has been such an issue in the news recently, this should be its top priority. I hope we'll see some action on this in the fall economic statement tomorrow.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092369\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nathalie Blais, my colleague, is now going to talk a little more about this issue in French.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092363\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci beaucoup de nous offrir l'occasion d'aborder cet enjeu tr\u00e8s important.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092364\" data-originallang=\"en\">La taxation du commerce \u00e9lectronique nous pr\u00e9occupe depuis de nombreuses ann\u00e9es \u00e0 cause de son incidence sur nos membres aux prises avec le d\u00e9clin de l'emploi dans les m\u00e9dias, ainsi que sur notre \u00e9conomie en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, notre vie sociale et culturelle et m\u00eame notre d\u00e9mocratie.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092365\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les producteurs \u00e9trangers ne sont pas tenus de percevoir les taxes de vente sur les produits ou les services num\u00e9riques import\u00e9s au Canada s'ils ne sont pas consid\u00e9r\u00e9s comme faisant des affaires chez nous, ce qui p\u00e9nalise lourdement les producteurs canadiens. Non seulement nos gouvernements se privent d'importantes rentr\u00e9es fiscales, mais nous en payons le prix \u00e9conomique et culturel en voyant s'affaiblir nos m\u00e9dias et dispara\u00eetre des emplois et des commerces qui avaient pignon sur rue. \u00c0 mesure que le commerce \u00e9lectronique se r\u00e9pand dans de nombreux secteurs et qu'il entra\u00eene toujours plus de concentration et de monopolisation, ces probl\u00e8mes grandissent de fa\u00e7on exponentielle.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092366\" data-originallang=\"en\">L'OCDE a fait de la taxation de l'\u00e9conomie num\u00e9rique la toute premi\u00e8re mesure de son plan d'action de 2015 concernant l'\u00e9rosion de la base d'imposition et le transfert de b\u00e9n\u00e9fices, aussi appel\u00e9 Plan d'action BEPS. Le Canada est maintenant l'un des rares grands pays du monde \u00e0 ne pas avoir modifi\u00e9 son r\u00e9gime fiscal pour obliger les entreprises num\u00e9riques \u00e9trang\u00e8res \u00e0 percevoir et \u00e0 verser les taxes de vente.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092367\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous n'avons aucune raison de ne pas le faire. Nous devrions aussi r\u00e9sister farouchement \u00e0 la pression de faire passer de 20 $ \u00e0 200 ou 800 $ le seuil de minimis applicable aux importations dans l'ALENA. Je sais que vous en avez discut\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092368\" data-originallang=\"en\">Depuis 25 ann\u00e9es que je m'occupe de politique fiscale, la taxation du commerce \u00e9lectronique ou des services num\u00e9riques \u00e9trangers est une mesure qui va de soi, c'est \u00e9vident. C'est une question d'\u00e9quit\u00e9 fiscale envers nos propres producteurs, qui se trouvent \u00eatre souvent des petites ou moyennes entreprises. Si le gouvernement f\u00e9d\u00e9ral tient \u00e0 faire quelque chose de constructif dans le traitement fiscal de la petite entreprise, qui a tant fait les manchettes r\u00e9cemment, ce devrait \u00eatre sa priorit\u00e9 absolue. J'esp\u00e8re que nous verrons une mesure en ce sens dans l'\u00e9nonc\u00e9 \u00e9conomique de demain.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092369\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ma coll\u00e8gue Nathalie Blais va maintenant vous entretenir de cette question dans l'autre langue.</p>"
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"en": "Ms. Nathalie Blais (Research Representative, Canadian Union of Public Employees)",
"fr": "Mme Nathalie Blais (repr\u00e9sentante \u00e0 la recherche, Syndicat canadien de la fonction publique)"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092370\" data-originallang=\"fr\">The Canadian Union of Public Employees, or CUPE for short, represents 7,500 members in the media and telecommunications industry, which has been going through constant upheaval for more than 20 years, with the dematerialization of content, the advent of the Internet and e-commerce, and changing consumer habits. All of these phenomena have thrown the country's culture and communications ecosystem profoundly off balance, and legislation ill adapted to today's digital landscape has only exacerbated that imbalance.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092371\" data-originallang=\"fr\">To support Canadian businesses who do business on the web, the government needs to make foreign companies selling products and services on the Internet in Canada pay their fair share in taxes. The current legislation must therefore be adapted to reflect the new digital reality, so that it no longer puts foreign multinationals such as Google, Facebook, Netflix, and Spotify at an advantage.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092372\" data-originallang=\"fr\">The Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage recognized that lack of fairness in its June report on media and local communities, recommending that the government level the playing field among industries on all platforms. The culture and communications industry is unanimous on the need for legislative change so that Canadian companies can compete on a level playing field in a global marketplace made possible by the Internet.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092373\" data-originallang=\"fr\">CUPE is part of the Coalition for Culture and Media, whose 40 member organizations, endorsed by over 4,000 citizens and groups, are calling on the government to restore tax fairness. Time is of the essence: some of our locals have already lost jobs, and more losses are on the way if immediate action isn't taken.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092374\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Thank you.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092375\" data-originallang=\"fr\">We'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092370\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Le Syndicat canadien de la fonction publique, ou SCFP, repr\u00e9sente 7 500 membres dans l'industrie des m\u00e9dias et des t\u00e9l\u00e9communications, un secteur \u00e9conomique qui vit des bouleversements successifs depuis plus de 20 ans: d\u00e9mat\u00e9rialisation du contenu, arriv\u00e9e d'Internet et du commerce \u00e9lectronique ainsi que changements dans les habitudes de consommation des citoyens. Tous ces ph\u00e9nom\u00e8nes ont profond\u00e9ment d\u00e9s\u00e9quilibr\u00e9 l'\u00e9cosyst\u00e8me de la culture et des communications au pays, un d\u00e9s\u00e9quilibre accentu\u00e9 par une l\u00e9gislation inadapt\u00e9e \u00e0 la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 num\u00e9rique actuelle.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092371\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Pour soutenir les entreprises canadiennes qui font des affaires sur le Web, le gouvernement doit r\u00e9tablir une \u00e9quit\u00e9 dans la taxation et la fiscalit\u00e9 relativement aux entreprises \u00e9trang\u00e8res qui vendent des produits et des services au Canada par Internet. Pour cela, la l\u00e9gislation actuelle doit \u00eatre adapt\u00e9e \u00e0 la nouvelle r\u00e9alit\u00e9 num\u00e9rique afin que l'on cesse d'avantager des multinationales \u00e9trang\u00e8res comme Google, Facebook, Netflix et Spotify. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092372\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Le Comit\u00e9 permanent du patrimoine canadien a reconnu cette injustice en juin dernier dans son rapport sur les m\u00e9dias et les communaut\u00e9s locales, en recommandant que le gouvernement uniformise les r\u00e8gles du jeu pour toutes les plateformes. L'industrie de la culture et des communications est unanime quant \u00e0 la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 de changer nos lois, afin que les entreprises canadiennes puissent livrer bataille \u00e0 armes \u00e9gales dans un march\u00e9 mondialis\u00e9 en raison d'Internet.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092373\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Le SCFP fait partie de la Coalition pour la culture et les m\u00e9dias, dont la quarantaine d'organisations membres, soutenues par plus 4 000 groupes et citoyens, demandent que l'\u00e9quit\u00e9 soit r\u00e9tablie sur le plan des taxes et des imp\u00f4ts. Le temps joue contre nous: des emplois ont d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e9t\u00e9 perdus dans certaines de nos sections locales et d'autres le seront, si rien n'est fait rapidement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092374\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Je vous remercie de votre \u00e9coute.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092375\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Nous sommes dispos\u00e9s \u00e0 r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 vos questions. </p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092376\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Thank you.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092377\" data-originallang=\"en\">We're going to move to Startup Canada, with Victoria Lennox.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092378\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you for coming. Go ahead.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092376\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092377\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous entendrons maintenant Mme Victoria Lennox, de Startup Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092378\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci d'\u00eatre l\u00e0, madame Lennox. \u00c0 vous de jouer.</p>"
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"en": "Ms. Victoria Lennox (Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Startup Canada)",
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092379\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you for having me.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092380\" data-originallang=\"en\">My name's Victoria Lennox. I'm the co-founder and CEO of Startup Canada. Startup Canada started in 2012 to unite Canada's entrepreneurship community. We now have over 200,000 entrepreneurs in our network, covering more than 50 start-up communities in 100 towns, cities, and villages across Canada. Our whole goal is to create a Canada for entrepreneurs to build an environment and culture for entrepreneurial success and to connect entrepreneurs to decision-makers so that, together, we can build an innovation nation and make Canada a beacon for entrepreneurship globally.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092381\" data-originallang=\"en\">We're very excited to be here today and to begin to contribute to this conversation. I see it as just the beginning. Thank you to those of you who participated during Small Business Week last week with Startup Canada down on the Hill, where we had 2,000 entrepreneurs come to the capital. Thank you for hearing their voices.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092382\" data-originallang=\"en\">This is a really exciting topic. It's all about e-commerce and Canadian businesses online, and when you connect it with trade, there's huge opportunity for Canada's entrepreneurship community. More than anything, Startup Canada is here for every entrepreneur\u20142.3 million entrepreneurs in Canada. We know that we're investing in superclusters as a nation, but we also know that e-commerce is a great equalizer for every entrepreneur, particularly when we have high-speed broadband access so that every entrepreneur in the north and rural and remote communities and indigenous communities can have access to a global market. Startup Canada and our entrepreneurs believe e-commerce is a fantastic equalizer and creates a more accessible economy for every entrepreneur.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092383\" data-originallang=\"en\">In terms of Startup Canada and what our entrepreneurs are looking for when we start to look at e-commerce as well as its interconnection with trade, it is how it connects with culture, and how, when we're bidding for Amazon and Facebook and working with our Shopify colleagues, we're empowering our entrepreneurs through e-commerce to access global markets. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092384\" data-originallang=\"en\">We're starting to see a bit of a skills gap, and I'll speak to a number of studies that we've recently conducted and launched. In addition, we're having a difficult time with digital adoption, particularly amongst our senior entrepreneurs, and the opportunity for cross-mentorship when connecting with trade commissioner services to see what resources are available, particularly for online companies, and really creating those growth opportunities that we can build into our bids for major multinationals as they look to position themselves in our cities.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092385\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ultimately, our entrepreneurs are looking for Canada to have a culture of entrepreneurship, to be connected to the support that they're looking for, and to have supportive communities, but they're also looking for customers. How can we build our entrepreneurs and e-commerce start-ups into the global supply chain?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092386\" data-originallang=\"en\">At Startup Canada, our stats on the topic are a little different from those of other organizations. Our entrepreneurs are predisposed to start up online. The majority\u201493%\u2014of our entrepreneurs at Startup Canada have an online presence. As the world's economy moves to digital first, Canada needs to ensure that all enterprises, regardless of size, industry, or sector, are supported with the tools, resources, and policy environment to benefit from electronic international trade. We need to be thinking beyond looking at our trade infrastructure for large companies. Our start-ups are starting globally from day one. They're competing with some of the best of the best. Therefore, how is our infrastructure set up to help accelerate entrepreneurs? </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092387\" data-originallang=\"en\">A lot of my comments are related to the trade commissioner services. I'll make a few key notes. SAAS, or software as a service, companies in Canada are the high-growth companies that are disproportionately creating the jobs in Canada. What we're starting to see, which is really cool, is that 64% of our SAAS companies at Startup Canada have actually begun.... They're socializing it to create global expansion officer roles in their C-suite executive suite. If we're seeing that our SAAS companies are looking globally and starting global, scalable companies, and they're starting to increasingly employ chief global officers, that's a really exciting sign.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092388\" data-originallang=\"en\">Seventy-four per cent of our SBOs use digital technology, including software programs and mobile applications; however, women are 20% less likely to adopt new technologies than men in the Startup Canada network. Immigrant entrepreneurs are twice as likely to integrate digital technologies into their companies than those born in Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092389\" data-originallang=\"en\">Forty-four per cent of small business owners at Startup Canada say that the high cost associated with researching, integrating, and maintaining digital technologies is the main barrier to technology adoption. Seventy-three per cent of small business owners list digital skills amongst their top three priorities. Twenty-nine per cent of Canadian small business owners do not believe the current workforce possesses the right digital skills to start and grow their companies.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092390\" data-originallang=\"en\">What can we do together? First, we have to get every business in Canada online, and we need them to see the opportunity in building up their e-commerce presence. The tools exist. They are free and they are available, so it's about education and connecting entrepreneurs with the resources they need.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092391\" data-originallang=\"en\">We need to invest in digital skills and in supporting every entrepreneur, not just those based in the major cities in Canada but across Canada. What's really cool is that we can do this digitally with just-in-time training.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092392\" data-originallang=\"en\">We also need to bridge the gap between the services available through the trade commissioner service and Export Development Canada to the entrepreneurs and meet them where they are at so that we can take entrepreneurs on that journey from starting up their e-commerce company to scaling to global markets with a seamless pipeline that can help to accelerate Canada's entrepreneurial success.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092393\" data-originallang=\"en\">The Canadian trade accelerators across the world are some of the best models in the world at how to do it right and how Canada can lead. As we continue to scale our Canadian tech accelerators, both in the U.S. and globally, there's an opportunity to look at e-commerce and specialize one of the key pillars to help our companies in that area.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092394\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ultimately, we need to make sure that Canada stays competitive. We need to reduce the internal trade barriers we have as a nation. We need to make sure our tax, other infrastructure, and regulatory systems are conducive to scaling great entrepreneurs. Remember, the Government of Canada can be one of the best buyers of new business products and services, so we need to get behind our companies.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092395\" data-originallang=\"en\">Just in closing and echoing my colleagues' remarks, we really need to brand Canada as an innovation nation. We need to make Canada best in class as it relates to entrepreneurship. We need to attract the best entrepreneurs, investors, and multinationals to our country, and we need to do it now. Our regulatory and tax systems will be important to attracting the best and brightest to Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092396\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you for the opportunity.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092379\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vous remercie de m\u2019avoir invit\u00e9e.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092380\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je m\u2019appelle Victoria Lennox. Je suis cofondatrice et premi\u00e8re dirigeante de Startup Canada, un organisme cr\u00e9\u00e9 en 2012 pour rassembler la communaut\u00e9 entrepreneuriale du Canada. Aujourd\u2019hui notre r\u00e9seau compte plus de 200 000 entrepreneurs, regroupant plus de 50 communaut\u00e9s d\u2019entreprises en d\u00e9marrage dans 100 villes et villages du Canada. Notre objectif est de cr\u00e9er un environnement et une culture qui favorisent le succ\u00e8s entrepreneurial au Canada, et de b\u00e2tir des ponts entre les entrepreneurs et les d\u00e9cideurs dans le but de coop\u00e9rer pour faire du Canada une nation d\u2019innovation et un phare pour l\u2019entrepreneuriat \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9chelle mondiale.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092381\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous sommes tr\u00e8s heureux d\u2019\u00eatre ici aujourd\u2019hui et d\u2019entamer cette conversation avec vous. \u00c0 mon avis, ce n\u2019est qu\u2019un d\u00e9but. Je remercie ceux d\u2019entre vous qui ont particip\u00e9 \u00e0 la Semaine de la petite entreprise la semaine derni\u00e8re avec Startup Canada sur la Colline, alors que 2 000 entrepreneurs visitaient la capitale. Nous vous remercions de leur avoir pr\u00eat\u00e9 oreille. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092382\" data-originallang=\"en\">C\u2019est un sujet vraiment excitant. Il s\u2019agit principalement de commerce \u00e9lectronique et d\u2019entreprises canadiennes en ligne, et lorsqu\u2019on les associe au commerce traditionnel, on s\u2019aper\u00e7oit qu\u2019il existe de grandes possibilit\u00e9s pour la communaut\u00e9 entrepreneuriale canadienne. Startup Canada est avant tout au service de tous les entrepreneurs: il y en a 2,3 millions \u00e0 travers le Canada. Le Canada investit dans les supergrappes et nous savons que le cybercommerce est un grand vecteur d\u2019\u00e9galit\u00e9 pour tous les entrepreneurs, notamment s\u2019ils disposent d\u2019Internet haute vitesse, lequel donne acc\u00e8s au march\u00e9 plan\u00e9taire \u00e0 tous les entrepreneurs dans les collectivit\u00e9s \u00e9loign\u00e9es, nordiques, rurales et autochtones. Les membres du r\u00e9seau de Startup Canada sont d\u2019avis que le commerce \u00e9lectronique est un grand \u00e9galisateur et qu\u2019il cr\u00e9e une \u00e9conomie plus accessible pour tous les entrepreneurs.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092383\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ce que nous et notre r\u00e9seau d\u2019entrepreneurs cherchons \u00e0 comprendre, lorsque nous examinons le cybercommerce et ses interconnexions avec le commerce traditionnel, c\u2019est la fa\u00e7on dont celui-ci tisse des liens avec la culture. Lorsque nous pr\u00e9sentons des appels d\u2019offres \u00e0 Amazon et Facebook, et collaborons avec nos coll\u00e8gues de Shopify, nous donnons \u00e0 nos entrepreneurs les moyens d\u2019acc\u00e9der aux march\u00e9s mondiaux. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092384\" data-originallang=\"en\">Un certain \u00e9cart de comp\u00e9tences point \u00e0 l\u2019horizon et j\u2019aborderai un nombre d\u2019\u00e9tudes que nous avons r\u00e9cemment men\u00e9es. En outre, la transition au num\u00e9rique se fait difficilement, notamment parmi nos entrepreneurs chevronn\u00e9s. Nous \u00e9prouvons aussi des difficult\u00e9s quant aux adh\u00e9sions transfrontali\u00e8res lorsque nous utilisons les services d\u2019un d\u00e9l\u00e9gu\u00e9 commercial pour avoir une id\u00e9e des ressources disponibles, notamment pour les entreprises en ligne, pour nous aider \u00e0 r\u00e9ellement cr\u00e9er ces possibilit\u00e9s de croissance que nous pourrons int\u00e9grer dans les appels d\u2019offres que nous pr\u00e9sentons aux grandes multinationales qui d\u00e9sirent s\u2019\u00e9tablir dans nos villes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092385\" data-originallang=\"en\">En fin de compte, nos entrepreneurs pr\u00f4nent une culture de l\u2019entrepreneuriat pour le Canada. Ils aimeraient avoir des clients, certes, mais aussi les soutiens mat\u00e9riel et communautaire dont ils ont besoin. Comment pouvons-nous veiller \u00e0 ce que nos entrepreneurs et nos jeunes soci\u00e9t\u00e9s de cybercommerce aient acc\u00e8s \u00e0 la cha\u00eene d\u2019approvisionnement mondiale?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092386\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les statistiques que poss\u00e8de Startup Canada \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard sont un peu diff\u00e9rentes de celles des autres organismes. Nos entrepreneurs sont pr\u00e9dispos\u00e9s \u00e0 d\u00e9marrer leur entreprise en ligne. La majorit\u00e9 des membres de Startup Canada, c\u2019est-\u00e0-dire, 93 % d\u2019entre eux, ont une pr\u00e9sence en ligne. Alors que l\u2019\u00e9conomie mondiale passe au num\u00e9rique, le Canada doit veiller \u00e0 ce que toutes les entreprises, quel que soit leur taille ou le secteur qu\u2019elles occupent, puissent b\u00e9n\u00e9ficier des outils, des ressources et du cadre politique n\u00e9cessaires pour tirer parti du commerce \u00e9lectronique international. Nous devons penser au-del\u00e0 des infrastructures commerciales des grandes entreprises. Nos jeunes entreprises sont actives \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9chelle plan\u00e9taire d\u00e8s le premier jour. Elles font concurrence \u00e0 certaines des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s les plus chevronn\u00e9es. Or, notre infrastructure est-elle en mesure de contribuer \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9panouissement de nos entreprises?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092387\" data-originallang=\"en\">Plusieurs de mes commentaires ont trait aux services des d\u00e9l\u00e9gu\u00e9s commerciaux. Je soulignerai certains \u00e9l\u00e9ments essentiels. Au Canada, les entreprises de service logiciel connaissent une forte croissance et elles cr\u00e9ent un nombre disproportionn\u00e9 d\u2019emplois. Nous voyons poindre un ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne vraiment g\u00e9nial: 64 % des entreprises de service logiciel qui sont membre de Startup Canada ont r\u00e9ellement jet\u00e9 leurs bases\u2026 Elles utilisent un processus de socialisation pour cr\u00e9er des postes de cadres responsables de l\u2019expansion globale. Nous observons des signes tr\u00e8s prometteurs: nos entreprises de service logiciel se concentrent sur le march\u00e9 mondial, lancent des entreprises mondiales \u00e9volutives et emploient un nombre croissant de chefs des op\u00e9rations internationales. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092388\" data-originallang=\"en\">Un grand nombre de nos propri\u00e9taires de petites entreprises, c\u2019est-\u00e0-dire, 74 %, utilisent la technologie num\u00e9rique et les applications mobiles. Toutefois, 20 % des femmes dans le r\u00e9seau Startup Canada sont moins susceptibles d\u2019adopter de nouvelles technologies que les hommes. Les entrepreneurs immigrants sont deux fois plus susceptibles d\u2019int\u00e9grer les technologies num\u00e9riques dans leurs op\u00e9rations que ceux n\u00e9s au Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092389\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les co\u00fbts \u00e9lev\u00e9s associ\u00e9s \u00e0 la recherche, l\u2019int\u00e9gration et l\u2019entretien des technologies num\u00e9riques sont les principaux obstacles \u00e0 l\u2019adoption de la technologie, selon 44 % des propri\u00e9taires de petites entreprises dans le r\u00e9seau de Startup Canada. Les comp\u00e9tences num\u00e9riques sont parmi les trois principales priorit\u00e9s de 73 % des propri\u00e9taires de petites entreprises. Selon 29 % des propri\u00e9taires de petites entreprises canadiennes, la main-d\u2019oeuvre actuelle ne poss\u00e8de pas les comp\u00e9tences num\u00e9riques n\u00e9cessaires pour contribuer au lancement et \u00e0 la croissance de leur entreprise.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092390\" data-originallang=\"en\">De quelle fa\u00e7on pouvons-nous collaborer? Premi\u00e8rement, nous devons veiller \u00e0 ce que toutes les entreprises canadiennes soient branch\u00e9es \u00e0 Internet et nous devons sensibiliser leurs propri\u00e9taires aux avantages d\u2019une pr\u00e9sence accrue dans le monde du cybercommerce. Les outils sont en place. Ils sont gratuits et disponibles. Il s\u2019agit donc de sensibiliser les entrepreneurs et de les doter des ressources dont ils ont besoin.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092391\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous devons investir dans les comp\u00e9tences num\u00e9riques et appuyer tous les entrepreneurs, pas seulement ceux qui sont situ\u00e9s dans les grandes villes du Canada, mais partout au pays. Le plus g\u00e9nial: cela peut \u00eatre fait num\u00e9riquement au moyen de la formation juste-\u00e0-temps.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092392\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous devons \u00e9galement combler le foss\u00e9 entre les services offerts aux entrepreneurs par les d\u00e9l\u00e9gu\u00e9s commerciaux et Exportation et d\u00e9veloppement Canada. Ils doivent se placer au m\u00eame niveau pour aider les entrepreneurs \u00e0 d\u00e9marrer leur commerce \u00e9lectronique et \u00e0 gravir les \u00e9chelons des march\u00e9s plan\u00e9taires au moyen d\u2019un processus uniforme qui favorisera l\u2019acc\u00e9l\u00e9ration du succ\u00e8s des entreprises au Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092393\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les programmes d\u2019acc\u00e9l\u00e9ration du commerce canadiens sont parmi les meilleurs au monde; ils donnent l\u2019exemple des bonnes d\u00e9marches \u00e0 suivre et soulignent le leadership dont fait preuve le Canada. Alors que nous continuons de faire rayonner nos acc\u00e9l\u00e9rateurs technologiques canadiens, tant aux \u00c9tats-Unis qu\u2019\u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9chelle mondiale, nous avons l\u2019occasion d\u2019\u00e9valuer le commerce \u00e9lectronique et de d\u00e9velopper un pilier cl\u00e9 sp\u00e9cifiquement pour aider nos entreprises dans ce domaine.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092394\" data-originallang=\"en\">En fin de compte, nous devons veiller \u00e0 ce que notre pays demeure concurrentiel. Le Canada doit r\u00e9duire les obstacles au commerce interne. Notre fiscalit\u00e9, nos infrastructures et nos syst\u00e8mes de r\u00e8glementation doivent favoriser l\u2019essor de nos plus grands entrepreneurs. Je vous rappelle que le gouvernement du Canada peut \u00eatre l\u2019un des meilleurs acheteurs de nouveaux produits et services commerciaux. Or, nous devons appuyer nos entreprises.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092395\" data-originallang=\"en\">En terminant et pour faire \u00e9cho aux observations de mes coll\u00e8gues, nous devons vraiment promouvoir le Canada comme nation innovatrice. Nous devons veiller \u00e0 ce que notre pays soit premier de classe au chapitre de l\u2019entrepreneuriat. Le Canada doit attirer les meilleurs entrepreneurs, investisseurs et multinationales et il doit le faire d\u00e8s maintenant; nos syst\u00e8mes r\u00e9glementaires et fiscaux seront des \u00e9l\u00e9ments importants \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092396\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vous remercie de m\u2019avoir donn\u00e9 cette occasion. </p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092397\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you, Ms. Lennox. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092398\" data-originallang=\"en\">That's a good segue into our dialogue with the MPs here. Without further ado, we're going to get going right off the bat.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092399\" data-originallang=\"en\">We have the Conservatives up first. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092400\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Carrie, you have the floor for five minutes.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092397\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci, madame Lennox. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092398\" data-originallang=\"en\">C\u2019est une bonne transition vers notre dialogue avec les d\u00e9put\u00e9s. Sans plus tarder, nous allons commencer.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092399\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vais d\u2019abord donner la parole aux conservateurs. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092400\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur Carrie, vous disposez de cinq minutes.</p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092401\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092402\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you to the witnesses for being here today on such short notice on such an important topic.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092403\" data-originallang=\"en\">I thought I would start with Mr. Wilson. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092404\" data-originallang=\"en\">As you know, I'm the Oshawa MP, and we have a lot of manufacturing. You mentioned some things about how we really have to look at how this affects competition. I think you said B2B portals, product design, and plant operations.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092405\" data-originallang=\"en\">One of the things you said that concerned me was about the investment in advanced technologies. The U.S.A. invests eight times more than Canada. What I'm hearing from our manufacturers is that government policies, especially in Ontario with, as you know, the high cost of electricity and the uncertainty of carbon taxes and how these are going to play out, are really affecting our international competitiveness, especially with the United States.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092406\" data-originallang=\"en\">Can you expand on whether e-commerce will help or hinder Canada's domestic and global competitiveness? How do you see that rolling out? It seems to be the future.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092401\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci beaucoup, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092402\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je tiens \u00e0 remercier les t\u00e9moins de leur pr\u00e9sence aujourd\u2019hui \u00e0 si bref pr\u00e9avis et au sujet d\u2019un enjeu aussi important.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092403\" data-originallang=\"en\">Permettez-moi de commencer avec M. Wilson. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092404\" data-originallang=\"en\">Comme vous le savez, je suis d\u00e9put\u00e9 d\u2019Oshawa et nous avons un important secteur manufacturier. Vous avez soulign\u00e9 qu\u2019il nous fallait \u00e9valuer les effets sur la concurrence de certaines choses. Je crois que vous avez parl\u00e9 de portails interentreprises, de la conception des produits et de l\u2019op\u00e9ration des usines.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092405\" data-originallang=\"en\">J\u2019ai une pr\u00e9occupation quant \u00e0 ce que vous avez dit au sujet des technologies de pointe. Les \u00c9tats-Unis investissent huit fois plus que le Canada \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard. Nos manufacturiers me disent que les politiques gouvernementales ont des r\u00e9percussions sur notre comp\u00e9titivit\u00e9 internationale, en particulier vis-\u00e0-vis des \u00c9tats-Unis. Cela s\u2019applique notamment en Ontario, o\u00f9, comme vous le savez, le co\u00fbt de l\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9 est \u00e9lev\u00e9 et o\u00f9 il existe une incertitude relative aux taxes sur le carbone et les effets qu\u2019elles auront. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092406\" data-originallang=\"en\">Est-ce que le commerce \u00e9lectronique va aider ou entraver la comp\u00e9titivit\u00e9 du Canada \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9chelle nationale et internationale? Comment voyez-vous la situation \u00e9voluer? Cela semble \u00eatre un enjeu pour l\u2019avenir. </p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092407\" data-originallang=\"en\">E-commerce is just another tool to sell things. I believe this is what Ethan said as well. In and of itself, it won't help or hinder. I guess a big part of our point was that, if other things aren't aligned, it doesn't really matter. You're going to miss out on the opportunities that e-commerce does provide.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092408\" data-originallang=\"en\">The real opportunity is that you have access to consumers and business partners from all around the world that 15 years ago you would have had a hard time finding. Today the online community is massive and you have the ability to access it, but without the government policies in place....</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092409\" data-originallang=\"en\">You mentioned electricity rates, but it's not just electricity rates in Ontario. It ranges from bad regulatory policy or red tape that adds cost to municipal tax rates and levies that go on at that level, up to international tariffs. A bit of everything combines into that kind of business environment that impacts the business investment decisions that companies are making.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092410\" data-originallang=\"en\">It's a wide-ranging problem, and it's a major problem. When we talk to our members about what their number one issue is, it is skills followed almost immediately by bad government policy. It's not a political thing at all. It's across the board everywhere in the country and with every type of government imaginable.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092411\" data-originallang=\"en\"> They have a problem with the way governments tend to treat business. It's as an afterthought rather than as a contributor, and something we try to get across to all governments at all levels is that industry is there as a contributor, a supporter, a partner of government to grow the economy and create new jobs. It's not there to do other things that sometimes you get blamed for doing.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092407\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le commerce \u00e9lectronique est simplement un outil de plus pour vendre des choses. Je crois qu\u2019Ethan a exprim\u00e9 le m\u00eame avis. Il ne s\u2019agit ni d\u2019un atout ni d\u2019un obstacle en soi. \u00c0 mon avis, l\u2019un de nos principaux arguments \u00e9tait que cela n\u2019a pas vraiment d\u2019importance si on n\u00e9glige d\u2019harmoniser les autres \u00e9l\u00e9ments. On ne saisira pas les opportunit\u00e9s qu\u2019offre le commerce \u00e9lectronique.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092408\" data-originallang=\"en\">La v\u00e9ritable opportunit\u00e9 se trouve dans l\u2019acc\u00e8s aux consommateurs et partenaires commerciaux du monde entier, lesquels \u00e9taient difficiles \u00e0 trouver il y a 15 ans. Aujourd\u2019hui, la communaut\u00e9 en ligne est immense et nous avons la possibilit\u00e9 de la rejoindre; toutefois, sans la mise en place de politiques gouvernementales\u2026</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092409\" data-originallang=\"en\">Vous avez parl\u00e9 des tarifs d\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9, mais il ne s\u2019agit pas exclusivement de tarifs d\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9 en Ontario. Il s\u2019agit de mauvaises politiques r\u00e9glementaires, de tracasseries administratives, qui font augmenter les taxes municipales et les imp\u00f4ts \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard et il s\u2019agit de tarifs internationaux. Un peu de tout cela se m\u00e9lange pour cr\u00e9er un environnement commercial qui influe sur les d\u00e9cisions d\u2019investissement des entreprises.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092410\" data-originallang=\"en\">Il s\u2019agit d\u2019un probl\u00e8me g\u00e9n\u00e9ralis\u00e9 et majeur. Nos membres nous disent que leur principal probl\u00e8me porte sur les comp\u00e9tences, suivi de pr\u00e8s par une mauvaise politique gouvernementale. Il ne s\u2019agit pas d\u2019un enjeu politique. C\u2019est un enjeu qui touche l\u2019ensemble du Canada et tous les paliers de gouvernement imaginables.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092411\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ils ont du mal \u00e0 accepter la fa\u00e7on dont les gouvernements ont tendance \u00e0 traiter les entreprises. Au lieu d\u2019admettre qu\u2019elles jouent un r\u00f4le important, les gouvernements les rel\u00e8guent au second plan. Toutefois, nous essayons de faire comprendre \u00e0 tous les paliers de gouvernement que les entrepreneurs sont des collaborateurs, des supporteurs et des partenaires pour ce qui est de stimuler l\u2019\u00e9conomie et cr\u00e9er des emplois. Leur r\u00f4le n\u2019est pas de faire des choses dont on les accuse parfois.</p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092412\" data-originallang=\"en\">What advice can you give the government in terms of what needs to align? You mentioned the red tape. I think Ms. Lennox talked along the lines of regulations and taxes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092413\" data-originallang=\"en\">What advice can you give us here at our committee about action that needs to be taken fairly promptly, or else we may miss out on this great opportunity?</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092412\" data-originallang=\"en\">Quels conseils offrez-vous au gouvernement sur le plan d\u2019une meilleure coordination? Vous avez parl\u00e9 de tracasseries administratives. Je crois que Mme Lennox a soulign\u00e9 la r\u00e8glementation et les taxes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092413\" data-originallang=\"en\">\u00cates-vous en mesure d\u2019\u00e9clairer le Comit\u00e9 quant aux mesures \u00e0 prendre dans un avenir rapproch\u00e9 si nous d\u00e9sirons saisir cette merveilleuse occasion?</p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092414\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I think there are a number of things. You mentioned taxes and regulations. Just from a regulatory perspective in Canada, we seem to do everything imaginable to make regulations as complex as possible. Bureaucrats are excellent at creating new regulations that everyone has to follow, in our individual personal lives as well as our businesses. Some of them are helpful and can be constructive. A lot of other ones are restrictive and not pro-growth. We have put forward, for example, a regulatory bill of rights that we're pushing for government to adopt. It creates more transparency and more openness in the regulatory process. It looks at outcomes and not just the steps to get to those outcomes, which regulations often focus on.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092415\" data-originallang=\"en\">I think a number of things could be done from a cost input perspective. We need to look at things like electricity costs. I saw a study\u2014from an automotive producer in your riding\u2014that had a comparison chart of automotive assembly plants across North America in terms of electricity prices. In Ontario they're four times those of their U.S. competitors. That is going to drive investment out of the country.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092416\" data-originallang=\"en\">It's not just one thing. My colleague Mike likes to call it \u201cdeath by a million paper cuts\u201d, and that's really what it is. It's a whole bunch of really small things that add up to a really big problem. It's not one government or one political party. It's a cumulative effort over time that's having this effect.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092414\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je crois qu\u2019il s\u2019agit d\u2019un certain nombre de choses. Vous avez mentionn\u00e9 les taxes et la r\u00e8glementation. Au Canada, nous semblons tout faire pour rendre la r\u00e8glementation aussi compliqu\u00e9e que possible. Les fonctionnaires sont pass\u00e9s ma\u00eetres dans la cr\u00e9ation de r\u00e8glements que tous doivent suivre sur le plan de leur vie personnelle et de la gestion de leur entreprise. Certains de ces r\u00e8glements sont utiles et positifs. Un grand nombre d\u2019autres sont contraignants et font obstacle \u00e0 la croissance. \u00c0 titre d\u2019exemple, nous encourageons le gouvernement \u00e0 adopter notre charte de la r\u00e8glementation; le cas \u00e9ch\u00e9ant, le processus r\u00e9glementaire sera plus ouvert et transparent. Notre charte mise sur les r\u00e9sultats et non seulement sur les \u00e9tapes \u00e0 suivre pour les atteindre, comme le font souvent les r\u00e8glements. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092415\" data-originallang=\"en\">\u00c0 mon avis, on pourrait faire nombre de choses sur le plan des co\u00fbts. Par exemple, nous pourrions examiner les co\u00fbts de l\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9. J\u2019ai pris connaissance d\u2019une \u00e9tude effectu\u00e9e par un fabricant d\u2019automobiles de votre circonscription dans laquelle un tableau comparait le prix de l\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9 que paient les usines de montages du secteur automobile en Am\u00e9rique du Nord. En Ontario, les fabricants paient quatre fois plus pour l\u2019\u00e9lectricit\u00e9 que leurs concurrents am\u00e9ricains. Cela chassera les investisseurs de notre pays. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092416\" data-originallang=\"en\">Plusieurs facteurs entrent en ligne de compte. Mon coll\u00e8gue, Mike, aime appeler ce processus une \u00ab mort \u00e0 petit feu \u00bb et c\u2019est vraiment le cas. Un grand nombre de v\u00e9tilles concourent pour cr\u00e9er un \u00e9norme probl\u00e8me. Ce n\u2019est pas la faute d\u2019un gouvernement ou d\u2019un parti politique. Il s\u2019agit d\u2019un effet cumulatif qui se manifeste au fil du temps.</p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092417\" data-originallang=\"en\">How do you see this with the discussions we're having on NAFTA right now, in terms of the importance of it for...? To my understanding, for example, your organization is very supportive of NAFTA. With some of the challenges that are coming forward, how do you think we\u2014</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092417\" data-originallang=\"en\">Comment voyez-vous cela dans le contexte des discussions en cours sur l\u2019ALENA, en ce qui a trait \u00e0 leur importance pour\u2026? Par exemple, je crois savoir que votre organisme est tr\u00e8s solidaire de l\u2019ALENA. \u00c0 la lumi\u00e8re de certains des d\u00e9fis qui se profilent, comment pensez-vous que nous...</p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092418\" data-originallang=\"en\">I'm sorry, Mr. Carrie, but we have a problem. You have five seconds left. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092419\" data-originallang=\"en\">It sounds like a really good question, and I think they're ready to go, but maybe your colleague could....</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092418\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur Carrie, je suis d\u00e9sol\u00e9, mais nous avons un probl\u00e8me. Il vous reste cinq secondes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092419\" data-originallang=\"en\">Cela semble \u00eatre une tr\u00e8s bonne question et je crois que nous sommes rendus \u00e0 la prochaine. Votre coll\u00e8gue pourrait peut-\u00eatre\u2026 </p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092420\" data-originallang=\"en\">It was brilliant.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092420\" data-originallang=\"en\">C\u2019\u00e9tait une question brillante.</p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092421\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Oh, oh!</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092421\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Oh, oh!</p>"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092422\" data-originallang=\"en\">I wouldn't want to cut them off on a good answer, so we'll just move on to the Liberals. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092423\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ms. Ludwig, you have the floor.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092422\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je ne voudrais pas interrompre leur bonne r\u00e9ponse, alors nous allons passer aux lib\u00e9raux. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092423\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame Ludwig, la parole est \u00e0 vous. </p>"
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"time": "2017-10-23 16:00:00",
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092424\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092425\" data-originallang=\"en\">I'll jump right in there. Certainly, regarding NAFTA, we've heard President Trump stress the wish to increase the limit that a Canadian can bring in through e-commerce, from $20 to $800 Canadian, which is well over $1,000 U.S. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092426\" data-originallang=\"en\">I'm wondering, Mr. Wilson, what impact that might have on Canadian businesses.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092427\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Then I'd like to follow up with Ms. Lennox in terms of small businesses as well.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092428\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5092424\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092425\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vais r\u00e9pondre sans plus tarder. Pour ce qui est de l\u2019ALENA, le pr\u00e9sident Trump a exprim\u00e9 le souhait qu\u2019on augmente de 20 $ \u00e0 800 $ la limite de la valeur des marchandises qu\u2019un Canadien peut se procurer par le biais du cybercommerce. Cela d\u00e9passe largement les 1 000 $US.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092426\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur Wilson, je me demande quel impact cela pourrait avoir sur les entreprises canadiennes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092427\" data-originallang=\"en\">Par la suite, j\u2019aimerais faire un suivi aupr\u00e8s de Mme Lennox en ce qui a trait aux petites entreprises.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5092428\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci.</p>"
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