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{
    "time": "2026-06-17 20:30:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Chak Au",
        "fr": "Chak Au"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"9417072\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Madam Chair, I have to point out that we cannot replace necessity with convenience. It may be convenient for the government to shut down debate in the name of urgency or in the name of saving time. As I mentioned, with a bill that is so complex and sometimes difficult to understand thoroughly, we need the time to do thorough work. It is necessary. It is not just for the sake of convenience that we shut it down.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9417073\" data-originallang=\"en\">I also want to point out that someone made a very interesting observation, which was that the Conservatives, the Bloc, the NDP and the Green Party, all parties that are very different on the political spectrum, are united in opposing Bill <a data-HoCid=\"13957880\" href=\"/bills/45-1/C-22/\" title=\"An Act respecting lawful access\">C\u201122</a>. That is rare. With that kind of a situation, it is obvious that something is wrong. In this case, the Liberal government is wrong.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"9417072\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Madame la pr\u00e9sidente, on ne peut faire passer ses int\u00e9r\u00eats avant la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9. Cela arrange peut-\u00eatre le gouvernement de mettre fin au d\u00e9bat sous pr\u00e9texte qu'il y a urgence ou pour gagner du temps. Comme je l'ai dit, examiner \u00e0 fond un projet de loi aussi complexe et parfois difficile \u00e0 comprendre dans son int\u00e9gralit\u00e9 prend du temps, mais c'est indispensable. On ne peut tronquer ce processus simplement parce que cela arrange le gouvernement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9417073\" data-originallang=\"en\">Une personne a fait une remarque tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressante, \u00e0 savoir que les conservateurs, le Bloc qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois, le NPD et le Parti vert, qui sont pourtant tr\u00e8s \u00e9loign\u00e9s les uns des autres sur l'\u00e9chiquier politique, sont tous unis dans leur opposition au projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"13957880\" href=\"/bills/45-1/C-22/\" title=\"An Act respecting lawful access\">C\u201122</a>. C'est rare. Cela montre que quelque chose ne va manifestement pas. Il est \u00e9vident que dans ce cas-ci, le gouvernement lib\u00e9ral a tort.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2026/6/17/chak-au-4/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/chak-au/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4843/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "13590507",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Ordres \u00e9manant du gouvernement"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Government Business No. 13\u2014Proceedings on Bill C\u201122",
        "fr": "L'affaire \u00e9manant du gouvernement no 13 \u2014 Les d\u00e9lib\u00e9rations sur le projet de loi C\u201122"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2026/6/17/",
    "related": {
        "document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2026%2F6%2F17%2F"
    }
}