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speech (house debate) resource
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{
"time": "2026-04-20 17:15:00",
"attribution": {
"en": "Roman Baber",
"fr": "Roman Baber"
},
"content": {
"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"9265176\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Speaker, obviously I have very little confidence, but I would like to provide a legal answer as opposed to a political answer.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9265177\" data-originallang=\"en\"> We are still bound and graced by and availed of the presumption of innocence. It is a presumption that the government must overcome. It is important that we do not create a regime that would undermine some of our basic civil liberties. Of course, in the quest of pursuing criminals and defending children, it is not uncommon for police or prosecutors to want to overreach. We cannot have that situation here if we want to preserve our democracy.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9265178\" data-originallang=\"en\">We always treat the state with suspicion. It comes from a very basic premise: The state has the power, the legislature, the police, the crown and the lab workers. All there is on the other side is\u2014</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"9265176\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'ai \u00e9videmment un tr\u00e8s faible niveau de confiance, monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, mais j'aimerais formuler une r\u00e9ponse de nature juridique plut\u00f4t que politique.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9265177\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous demeurons tenus de respecter la pr\u00e9somption d'innocence qui nous est accord\u00e9e et dont nous b\u00e9n\u00e9ficions. Le gouvernement doit surmonter cette pr\u00e9somption. Il est important de ne pas cr\u00e9er un r\u00e9gime qui porterait atteinte aux libert\u00e9s civiles fondamentales des Canadiens. Bien s\u00fbr, il n'est pas rare que la police et les procureurs cherchent \u00e0 aller trop loin lorsqu'ils s'efforcent de poursuivre les criminels et de prot\u00e9ger les enfants. Or, si nous voulons pr\u00e9server notre d\u00e9mocratie, nous ne pouvons pas nous le permettre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9265178\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous sommes toujours m\u00e9fiants envers l'\u00c9tat, une attitude qui d\u00e9coule d'un principe tr\u00e8s simple: l'\u00c9tat est le l\u00e9gislateur; il d\u00e9tient le pouvoir, la police, la Couronne et les laboratoires. De l'autre c\u00f4t\u00e9, il n'y a que...</p>"
},
"url": "/debates/2026/4/20/roman-baber-3/",
"politician_url": "/politicians/roman-baber/",
"politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4791/",
"procedural": false,
"source_id": "13453940",
"h1": {
"en": "Government Orders",
"fr": "Ordres \u00e9manant du gouvernement"
},
"h2": {
"en": "Lawful Access Act, 2026",
"fr": "Loi de 2026 sur l'acc\u00e8s l\u00e9gal"
},
"document_url": "/debates/2026/4/20/",
"related": {
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}
}