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{
"time": "2025-09-23 13:10:00",
"attribution": {
"en": "Alexis Desch\u00eanes",
"fr": "Alexis Desch\u00eanes"
},
"content": {
"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8877282\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Speaker, I took the time to read Jean Chr\u00e9tien's comments.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8877283\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Chr\u00e9tien kind of answered my colleague's question by saying that the notwithstanding clause is a compromise. It is a compromise that Mr. Chr\u00e9tien and Mr. Trudeau could both live with. What Mr. Chr\u00e9tien said to those who feared that things would get too out of hand is that vigilance is always required and that there are ways for lobby groups to fight it out in the political realm.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8877284\" data-originallang=\"fr\">What is happening here is quite scandalous. There is a notwithstanding clause, a limited option for democratic freedom that is used very sparingly. This government is going further than any other Liberal government to once again shut down this option for Quebec.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8877282\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, j'ai pris la peine de lire les propos de Jean Chr\u00e9tien.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8877283\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Dans le fond, M. Chr\u00e9tien r\u00e9pondait un peu \u00e0 la question de ma coll\u00e8gue en disant que la disposition de d\u00e9rogation est un compromis. C'est un compromis avec lequel M. Chr\u00e9tien vivait bien et avec lequel M. Trudeau vivait bien. Ce que disait M. Chr\u00e9tien \u00e0 ceux qui craignaient de trop grands d\u00e9rapages, c'est que la vigilance est toujours de mise et qu'il y a des moyens permettant \u00e0 des groupes de pression de mener la bataille au sein de la sph\u00e8re politique.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8877284\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Ce qui est en train de se passer ici est assez scandaleux. Il y a une disposition de d\u00e9rogation qui est utilis\u00e9e de fa\u00e7on tr\u00e8s parcimonieuse, un espace restreint de libert\u00e9 d\u00e9mocratique. Ce gouvernement va plus loin qu'aucun autre gouvernement lib\u00e9ral pour venir encore fermer cet espace pour le Qu\u00e9bec.</p>"
},
"url": "/debates/2025/9/23/alexis-deschenes-2/",
"politician_url": "/politicians/alexis-deschenes/",
"politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4698/",
"procedural": false,
"source_id": "13133571",
"h1": {
"en": "Government Orders",
"fr": "Ordres \u00e9manant du gouvernement"
},
"h2": {
"en": "Business of Supply",
"fr": "Travaux des subsides"
},
"h3": {
"en": "Opposition Motion\u2014Constitutional Powers of Quebec and the Provinces",
"fr": "Motion de l'opposition \u2014 Les pouvoirs constitutionnels du Qu\u00e9bec et des provinces"
},
"document_url": "/debates/2025/9/23/",
"related": {
"document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2025%2F9%2F23%2F"
}
}