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{
    "time": "2025-10-23 13:00:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Pat Kelly",
        "fr": "Pat Kelly"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8936689\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Speaker, that is a fantastic question. I do not know the answer to it. It is a great question that the government will have to answer when this bill gets to committee.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8936690\" data-originallang=\"en\">I mentioned in my speech the reporting to the Minister of National Defence, but the member is correct that the bill does not specify that. That was my presumption. Who will be in charge of the Coast Guard when this is all done, if Bill <a data-HoCid=\"13632609\" href=\"/bills/45-1/C-12/\" title=\"An Act respecting certain measures relating to the security of Canada's borders and the integrity of the Canadian immigration system and respecting other related security measures\">C-12</a> passes unamended? It is not clear to me from what we can see so far. This will have to be studied at committee.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8936691\" data-originallang=\"en\">The member's point is so important: Nothing has changed. The ships are not suddenly armed or equipped with surveillance technology and equipment. They are the same ships, unarmed, and are currently purposed for civilian use. Changing and adding a new minister and moving the expense from one column to another will not make Canadians safer.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8936689\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, c'est une question tr\u00e8s pertinente. Je n'ai pas la r\u00e9ponse. C'est une excellente question \u00e0 laquelle le gouvernement devra r\u00e9pondre lorsque ce projet de loi sera renvoy\u00e9 au comit\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8936690\" data-originallang=\"en\">Dans mon discours, j'ai mentionn\u00e9 que la Garde c\u00f4ti\u00e8re rel\u00e8verait du ministre de la D\u00e9fense nationale, mais le d\u00e9put\u00e9 a raison de dire que le projet de loi ne le pr\u00e9cise pas. C'\u00e9tait ma supposition. Qui sera responsable de la Garde c\u00f4ti\u00e8re au bout du compte, si le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"13632609\" href=\"/bills/45-1/C-12/\" title=\"An Act respecting certain measures relating to the security of Canada's borders and the integrity of the Canadian immigration system and respecting other related security measures\">C\u201112</a> est adopt\u00e9 sans amendement? Ce n'est pas clair pour moi d'apr\u00e8s ce que nous avons vu jusqu'\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent. Il faudra \u00e9tudier cette question en comit\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8936691\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le point soulev\u00e9 par le d\u00e9put\u00e9 est tr\u00e8s important: rien n'a chang\u00e9. Les navires ne sont pas soudainement arm\u00e9s ou \u00e9quip\u00e9s de technologies et d'\u00e9quipements de surveillance. Ce sont les m\u00eames navires, non arm\u00e9s, qui sont actuellement destin\u00e9s \u00e0 un usage civil. Ajouter un nouveau ministre et d\u00e9placer les d\u00e9penses d'une colonne \u00e0 une autre ne renforcera pas la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 des Canadiens.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2025/10/23/pat-kelly-5/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/pat-kelly/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4808/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "13191796",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Ordres \u00e9manant du gouvernement"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Strengthening Canada's Immigration System and Borders Act",
        "fr": "Loi visant \u00e0 renforcer le syst\u00e8me d'immigration et la fronti\u00e8re du Canada"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2025/10/23/",
    "related": {
        "document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2025%2F10%2F23%2F"
    }
}