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{
    "time": "2024-04-19 13:30:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Bernard G\u00e9n\u00e9reux (Montmagny\u2014L'Islet\u2014Kamouraska\u2014Rivi\u00e8re-du-Loup, CPC)",
        "fr": "M. Bernard G\u00e9n\u00e9reux (Montmagny\u2014L'Islet\u2014Kamouraska\u2014Rivi\u00e8re-du-Loup, PCC)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8337004\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Madam Speaker, thank you for giving me the opportunity to deliver a final reply in the debate on my private member's bill, Bill <a data-HoCid=\"12566649\" href=\"/bills/44-1/C-351/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act (maximum security offenders)\">C-351, an act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act regarding maximum security offenders</a>.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337005\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I will not go into the details of the context surrounding the introduction of such a bill. I will simply point out that what prompted it was the news last June that serial killer Paul Bernardo had been transferred from a maximum-security prison to a medium-security one. It was news that shocked the public and forced the families and victims to relive their trauma. This bill seeks to ensure that maximum-security offenders remain in a maximum-security facility, where they deserve to be.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337006\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I would once again like to thank my colleague from <a data-HoCid=\"278693\" href=\"/politicians/tony-baldinelli/\" title=\"Tony Baldinelli\">Niagara Falls</a>, who introduced a similar bill, as well as a motion calling for the immediate cancellation of Bernardo's transfer. Unfortunately, his motion was defeated.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337007\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I listened carefully to my colleagues' speeches, in the first hour of reading and today, and I have a few comments to make.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337008\" data-originallang=\"fr\">My Liberal colleagues mentioned that we do not care about women. Nothing could be further from the truth. Our Conservative Party has always stood with victims. Unfortunately, when it comes to dangerous offenders, the vast majority of victims are women. I also heard the Liberals say that we are using this bill to fearmonger. They falsely claim that we want to make people believe that offenders like Bernardo could end up being released. That is not the purpose of this bill at all.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337009\" data-originallang=\"fr\">The probability that such a dangerous criminal would be out on release is extremely low. However, the fact that he was transferred from a maximum- to a medium-security prison is something we want to prevent. I repeat, the very simple goal of this bill is to ensure that such criminals, given their horrific actions, are kept in maximum-security prisons, not in institutions where they would receive much more generous privileges. Most importantly, we want to prevent the families of victims from having to relive a trauma that no one would want to experience.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337010\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Other colleagues have also talked about rehabilitation. I heard someone say earlier that we do not believe in it. That is absolutely not the case. Our party does believe in rehabilitation, especially for young offenders. For some offences, a second chance is the way forward, but in the Bernardo case, for example, I am sure members will agree that rehabilitation is impossible. A second chance for such a monster is out of the question. We are talking about at least 1,000 inmates in Canada who are considered dangerous offenders.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337011\" data-originallang=\"fr\">As evidence of the current government's soft-on-crime attitude, the response to an Order Paper question submitted by my colleague from <a data-HoCid=\"278564\" href=\"/politicians/frank-caputo/\" title=\"Frank Caputo\">Kamloops\u2014Thompson\u2014Cariboo</a> revealed that most of these offenders are serving their sentences in medium- or even minimum-security prisons. There are dangerous offenders in minimum-security institutions. That is what happens when a government does not have its priorities straight, when a government believes that the right thing to do is to offer dangerous criminals the least restrictive environment. That is what happened in 2019 with the passage of Bill <a data-HoCid=\"10078426\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-83/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act and another Act\">C-83</a>, which puts the comfort of criminals ahead of concern for victims' families. That is pure liberalism. That is the legacy of the Liberal government after nine years in power.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337012\" data-originallang=\"fr\">On this side of the House, we stand by the victims and not the criminals. That is why I introduced this bill and I am proud of it. Where the Liberals have failed, we will succeed. We will restore common sense in our justice and correctional system. </p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8337004\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, je vous remercie de me donner l'occasion de donner une derni\u00e8re r\u00e9plique dans le d\u00e9bat sur mon projet de loi d'initiative parlementaire, le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"12566649\" href=\"/bills/44-1/C-351/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act (maximum security offenders)\">C\u2011351, Loi modifiant la Loi sur le syst\u00e8me correctionnel et la mise en libert\u00e9 sous condition (d\u00e9linquants ayant une cote de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 maximale)</a>.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337005\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Je ne reviendrai pas sur les d\u00e9tails du contexte entourant le d\u00e9p\u00f4t d'un tel projet de loi. Je soulignerai simplement que l'\u00e9l\u00e9ment d\u00e9clencheur a \u00e9t\u00e9 la nouvelle du transfert, en juin dernier, du tueur en s\u00e9rie Paul Bernardo d'une prison \u00e0 s\u00e9curit\u00e9 maximale vers une prison \u00e0 s\u00e9curit\u00e9 moyenne. C'est une nouvelle qui a choqu\u00e9 la population et qui a fait revivre un traumatisme aux familles et aux victimes. Ce projet de loi vise \u00e0 assurer que les d\u00e9linquants ayant une cote de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 maximale restent dans un \u00e9tablissement \u00e0 s\u00e9curit\u00e9 maximale, l\u00e0 o\u00f9 ils m\u00e9ritent d'\u00eatre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337006\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Je tiens encore une fois \u00e0 remercier mon coll\u00e8gue de <a data-HoCid=\"278693\" href=\"/politicians/tony-baldinelli/\" title=\"Tony Baldinelli\">Niagara Falls</a>, qui a d\u00e9pos\u00e9 un projet de loi similaire, ainsi qu'une motion demandant l'annulation imm\u00e9diate du transfert de Bernardo. Malheureusement, sa motion a \u00e9t\u00e9 rejet\u00e9e.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337007\" data-originallang=\"fr\">J'ai \u00e9cout\u00e9 avec attention les discours de mes coll\u00e8gues, autant \u00e0 la premi\u00e8re heure de la lecture qu'aujourd'hui, et j'ai quelques observations \u00e0 formuler.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337008\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mes coll\u00e8gues lib\u00e9raux ont mentionn\u00e9 qu'on ne se soucie pas des femmes. Il n'y a rien de plus faux. Notre Parti conservateur s'est toujours tenu aux c\u00f4t\u00e9s des victimes, et on sait que, en ce qui concerne les d\u00e9linquants dangereux, la tr\u00e8s grande majorit\u00e9 des victimes sont malheureusement des femmes. J'ai aussi entendu les lib\u00e9raux dire que nous voulons semer la peur avec ce projet de loi. Ils affirment \u00e0 tort que nous voulons faire croire \u00e0 la population que des cas comme Bernardo peuvent se retrouver en libert\u00e9. Ce n'est pas du tout le but de ce projet de loi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337009\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Les probabilit\u00e9s qu'un criminel aussi dangereux se retrouve en libert\u00e9 sont extr\u00eamement faibles, mais le fait est qu'il a \u00e9t\u00e9 transf\u00e9r\u00e9 d'une prison \u00e0 s\u00e9curit\u00e9 maximale \u00e0 une prison \u00e0 s\u00e9curit\u00e9 moyenne, et c'est cela que nous voulons \u00e9viter. Je r\u00e9p\u00e8te que le but tr\u00e8s simple de ce projet de loi est de s'assurer que de tels criminels demeurent dans des prisons \u00e0 s\u00e9curit\u00e9 maximale et non dans des \u00e9tablissements o\u00f9 ils jouiraient de privil\u00e8ges qui sont beaucoup plus g\u00e9n\u00e9reux, compte tenu des gestes horribles qu'ils ont commis. Ainsi, plus important encore, nous voulons \u00e9viter aux familles de victimes de revivre un traumatisme que personne ne veut vivre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337010\" data-originallang=\"fr\">D'autres coll\u00e8gues ont \u00e9galement parl\u00e9 de r\u00e9habilitation. J'ai entendu un coll\u00e8gue dire tant\u00f4t que nous ne croyions pas \u00e0 cela. C'est totalement faux. Notre parti croit en la r\u00e9habilitation, surtout en ce qui concerne les jeunes contrevenants. Pour certaines offenses, une deuxi\u00e8me chance est la voie \u00e0 suivre, mais, dans le cas de Bernardo, on sera d'accord avec moi qu'aucune r\u00e9habilitation n\u2019est possible. Une deuxi\u00e8me chance pour un tel monstre est hors de question. On parle ici d'au moins 1 000 d\u00e9tenus au Canada qui sont consid\u00e9r\u00e9s comme \u00e9tant des d\u00e9linquants dangereux.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337011\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Preuve du laxisme du gouvernement en place, \u00e0 la suite d'une question inscrite au Feuilleton de mon coll\u00e8gue de <a data-HoCid=\"278564\" href=\"/politicians/frank-caputo/\" title=\"Frank Caputo\">Kamloops\u2014Thompson\u2014Cariboo</a>, on a appris que la plupart d'entre eux purgent leur peine dans des prisons \u00e0 s\u00e9curit\u00e9 moyenne ou m\u00eame \u00e0 s\u00e9curit\u00e9 minimale. Ce sont des d\u00e9linquants dangereux dans des \u00e9tablissements \u00e0 s\u00e9curit\u00e9 minimale. C'est ce que donne un gouvernement qui n'a pas les priorit\u00e9s \u00e0 la bonne place, un gouvernement qui croit que la bonne chose \u00e0 faire est d'offrir \u00e0 des criminels dangereux l'environnement le moins restrictif. C'est ce qui a fait que, en 2019, on adoptait le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"10078426\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-83/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act and another Act\">C\u201183</a>, qui pense au confort des criminels et non au sort des familles des victimes. C'est du lib\u00e9ralisme tout crach\u00e9. C'est cela, l'h\u00e9ritage du gouvernement lib\u00e9ral apr\u00e8s neuf ans au pouvoir.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8337012\" data-originallang=\"fr\">De ce c\u00f4t\u00e9-ci de la Chambre, nous nous tenons du c\u00f4t\u00e9 des victimes, et non des criminels. C'est la raison pour laquelle j'ai d\u00e9pos\u00e9 ce projet de loi, et j'en suis tr\u00e8s fier. L\u00e0 o\u00f9 les lib\u00e9raux ont \u00e9chou\u00e9, nous allons r\u00e9ussir. Nous allons r\u00e9tablir le gros bon sens dans notre syst\u00e8me judiciaire et correctionnel.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2024/4/19/bernard-genereux-3/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/bernard-genereux/",
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    "source_id": "12693928",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Private Members' Business",
        "fr": "Affaires \u00e9manant des d\u00e9put\u00e9s"
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    "h2": {
        "en": "Corrections and Conditional Release Act",
        "fr": "La Loi sur le syst\u00e8me correctionnel et la mise en libert\u00e9 sous condition"
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    "document_url": "/debates/2024/4/19/",
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