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{
    "time": "2024-12-11 17:45:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Warren Steinley",
        "fr": "M. Warren Steinley"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8785539\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Madam Speaker, there are many more scandals. I think I only got to number 40 on my list of 75. I was not here, but I believe the advice from the then Conservative government was for the Liberals not to continue with the Phoenix pay system and to do something different. This is what I have been told. There does needs to be a system in place to make sure the workers are paid properly.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8785540\" data-originallang=\"en\">I think we go back to the point I made earlier, which is that the Liberals are trying to make it just a natural day when another scandal breaks out. They want to have so many scandals that Canadians just shrug it off and say, \u201cLiberals are going to liberal.\u201d Liberals and scandals are synonymous with each other. That is not a flaw of the system. This is what they bring when they come to government. They come to government and scandals follow them everywhere they go. It is similar to the NDP members in Saskatchewan. Scandals followed them everywhere they went as well.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8785539\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, il y a beaucoup d'autres scandales. Je pense que je ne suis arriv\u00e9 qu'au num\u00e9ro 40 sur ma liste de 75. Je ne si\u00e9geais pas \u00e0 la Chambre \u00e0 cette \u00e9poque, mais je crois que le gouvernement conservateur a conseill\u00e9 aux lib\u00e9raux de ne pas conserver le syst\u00e8me de paie Ph\u00e9nix et d'en adopter un autre. C'est ce qu'on m'a dit. Il faut mettre en place un syst\u00e8me pour veiller \u00e0 ce que les travailleurs soient pay\u00e9s correctement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8785540\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je pense que nous revenons \u00e0 ce que j'ai dit tout \u00e0 l'heure, \u00e0 savoir que les lib\u00e9raux essaient de faire comme si de rien n'\u00e9tait quand un autre scandale \u00e9clate. Ils veulent en arriver au point o\u00f9 il y a tellement de scandales que les Canadiens se contentent de hausser les \u00e9paules en disant: \u00ab Lib\u00e9ral un jour, lib\u00e9ral toujours \u00bb. Les lib\u00e9raux sont synonymes de scandales. Ce n'est pas une lacune du syst\u00e8me. C'est la cons\u00e9quence de leur arriv\u00e9e au pouvoir. Ils arrivent au pouvoir, et les scandales les suivent partout. C'est comme les d\u00e9put\u00e9s n\u00e9o-d\u00e9mocrates de la Saskatchewan. Les scandales les ont suivis partout, eux aussi.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2024/12/11/warren-steinley-8/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/warren-steinley/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4537/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "13063261",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Orders of the Day",
        "fr": "Ordre du jour"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Privilege",
        "fr": "Privil\u00e8ge"
    },
    "h3": {
        "en": "Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs",
        "fr": "Le renvoi au Comit\u00e9 permanent de la proc\u00e9dure et des affaires de la Chambre"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2024/12/11/",
    "related": {
        "document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2024%2F12%2F11%2F"
    }
}