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{
    "time": "2024-10-07 19:35:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Blake Desjarlais (Edmonton Griesbach, NDP)",
        "fr": "M. Blake Desjarlais (Edmonton Griesbach, NPD)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8595672\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madam Speaker, we share a lot in common in terms of the problem. The problem is clear: Whether it is in British Columbia, in Alberta or here in Ontario, Canadians cannot keep up with the cost of their mortgage or their rent.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8595673\" data-originallang=\"en\"> However, we differ in terms of the solution. I would agree with the member that the Liberals have spent a lot of money, but they have spent that money giving it out to large corporations like real estate investment trusts and other groups that build for-profit homes and sell those homes for profit. Any public spending should go to public good. In this case, the Liberals' housing strategy is public money for private good.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8595674\" data-originallang=\"en\"> The Conservatives' solution is more of the same as the Liberals' approach. Rather than investing, however, we would still require municipalities or real estate investment trusts to build the homes that people could afford, but they are not going to do it. Their objective is purely profit. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8595675\" data-originallang=\"en\">How can the member square the circle that selling off public land to rich developers is in any way different from giving those same developers a boatload of money or a boatload of public land? The result is the same: Canadians have no homes. We need to have the courage to actually speak about non-profit and social housing. Could the member speak to those two points?</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8595672\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, nous nous entendons sur beaucoup de choses en ce qui concerne la nature du probl\u00e8me. Le probl\u00e8me est \u00e9vident: que ce soit en Colombie\u2011Britannique, en Alberta ou ici, en Ontario, les Canadiens n'arrivent pas \u00e0 payer leur pr\u00eat hypoth\u00e9caire ou leur loyer.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8595673\" data-originallang=\"en\">Cependant, nous ne nous entendons pas sur la solution. Je suis d'accord avec le d\u00e9put\u00e9 pour dire que les lib\u00e9raux ont d\u00e9pens\u00e9 beaucoup d'argent, sauf qu'ils l'ont d\u00e9pens\u00e9 en le donnant \u00e0 de grandes soci\u00e9t\u00e9s comme des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s de placement immobilier ou d'autres groupes qui construisent des logements \u00e0 but lucratif pour les vendre \u00e0 profit. Toutes les d\u00e9penses publiques devraient servir le bien public. Dans ce cas-ci, la strat\u00e9gie des lib\u00e9raux en mati\u00e8re de logement consiste \u00e0 utiliser des fonds publics pour servir le bien priv\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8595674\" data-originallang=\"en\">La solution des conservateurs est essentiellement la m\u00eame que celle des lib\u00e9raux, \u00e0 la diff\u00e9rence qu'au lieu d'investir, on exigerait toujours des municipalit\u00e9s ou des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s de placement immobilier qu'elles construisent des logements que les gens ont les moyens de se payer, ce qu'elles ne feront pas, puisque leur objectif est purement mercantile.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8595675\" data-originallang=\"en\">Comment le d\u00e9put\u00e9 peut-il le moindrement concilier la vente de terres publiques \u00e0 de riches promoteurs et le fait de donner \u00e0 ces m\u00eames promoteurs une tonne d'argent ou de terres publiques? Le r\u00e9sultat est le m\u00eame: les Canadiens n'ont pas de logement. Nous devons avoir le courage de parler de logements sociaux et sans but lucratif. Le d\u00e9put\u00e9 pourrait-il parler de ces deux points?</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2024/10/7/blake-desjarlais-9/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/blake-desjarlais/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4616/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "12911295",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Concurrence in Committee Reports",
        "fr": "Adoption de rapports de comit\u00e9s"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Committees of the House",
        "fr": "Les comit\u00e9s de la Chambre"
    },
    "h3": {
        "en": "Public Accounts",
        "fr": "Comptes publics"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2024/10/7/",
    "related": {
        "document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2024%2F10%2F7%2F"
    }
}