Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2023-06-08 15:10:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "The Speaker",
        "fr": "Le Pr\u00e9sident"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7842672\" data-originallang=\"en\">Before proceeding with the vote, the Chair wishes to return to the issues experienced with the voting application during the votes held yesterday.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842673\" data-originallang=\"en\">Multiple members claimed to be having difficulty with the voting app, and instead sought to cast their vote by video conference. Many others, having voted successfully with the app, connected to the video conference, seeking to confirm their vote. Their interventions were often preceded by lengthy preambles, despite the instructions of the Deputy Speaker to cast their vote without additional comments.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842674\" data-originallang=\"en\">As was done after similar difficulties last Friday, the Chair asked the House administration to investigate what had occurred. Many employees worked last night to confirm, once again, that there was no generalized outage and that, with a few isolated exceptions, the application worked as intended.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842675\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> In the two years the House has been using the voting application, there have generally been a small number of members who experience technical difficulties on a particular vote. In those cases, the correct procedure is for them to connect to the video conference and to cast their vote orally.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842676\" data-originallang=\"fr\">There are also some occasions where the app will signal to members the potential for an issue and invite them to confirm their vote via video conference. Again, this is normal and generally presents no problem for the small number of members affected. Finally, technical difficulties can often be resolved by contacting an IT ambassador which, as members know, is something that is highly recommended as a remedy for issues. These are then normally very quickly resolved.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842677\" data-originallang=\"en\">What was unusual was that, both Friday and yesterday, a particularly large number of members who seemed to have such difficulties were almost exclusively from one political party. However, only three members made any attempt to contact our IT support during the votes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842678\" data-originallang=\"en\">One of the advantages of the voting application is that it can be used by members from anywhere in Canada. As such, the Chair finds it curious, even worrisome, that yesterday, a good number of members who seemed to have issues were using the application from their lobby. Furthermore, when claiming to have experienced issues, they opted to log into the video conference from the lobby rather than walking the few metres it takes to enter the chamber to clarify their vote.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842679\" data-originallang=\"en\">More troubling is the audio feedback issues that were created while doing this from the lobby, thereby putting the safety of our interpreters at risk, something that was addressed by the Deputy Speaker yesterday.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842680\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Given these circumstances, the Chair suspects that these difficulties were not technological in nature. A verification of our technical logs leads one to the same conclusion.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842681\" data-originallang=\"fr\">In the ruling delivered on Monday, found at page 15261 of the Debates, I stated, and I quote:</p>\n<blockquote><p data-HoCid=\"7842682\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> The Chair has the utmost respect for the voting process. The success of the voting application depends on the good faith of members. All members are to treat their right to vote in this place with the sanctity and respect it deserves. </p>\n</blockquote><p data-HoCid=\"7842683\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> As we approach the summer adjournment, I recognize that there are often moments when tensions run high, and disagreements can become more pronounced, but the Chair implores members to carefully consider their actions and the example they are providing.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842684\" data-originallang=\"en\">On March 14, 2008, Speaker Milliken said, at page 4183 of the Debates:</p>\n<blockquote><p data-HoCid=\"7842685\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Like all Canadians, and indeed all hon. members, I realize and respect that political exigencies often dictate the strategies adopted by parties in the House. However, as your Speaker, I appeal to those to whom the management of the business of the Parliament has been entrusted\u2014the House leaders and the whips of all parties\u2014to take leadership on this matter....I ask them to work together to find a balance that will allow the parties to pursue their political objectives and will permit all members to carry on their work. </p>\n</blockquote><p data-HoCid=\"7842686\" data-originallang=\"en\">In this spirit, the Chair once again hopes that members will cast their votes with the solemnity such an act deserves and will refrain from actions which bring the House into disrepute.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842687\" data-originallang=\"en\">I thank all members for their attention.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7842672\" data-originallang=\"en\">Avant de passer au vote, la pr\u00e9sidence veut revenir sur les probl\u00e8mes observ\u00e9s durant les votes d\u2019hier. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842673\" data-originallang=\"en\">Bon nombre de d\u00e9put\u00e9s ont affirm\u00e9 avoir rencontr\u00e9 des difficult\u00e9s avec l\u2019application de vote et ont cherch\u00e9 \u00e0 voter par vid\u00e9oconf\u00e9rence. De nombreux autres, ayant r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 voter \u00e0 l\u2019aide de l\u2019application, se sont joints \u00e0 la s\u00e9ance par vid\u00e9oconf\u00e9rence dans le but de confirmer leur vote. Leurs interventions \u00e9taient souvent pr\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9es de longs pr\u00e9ambules, et ce, m\u00eame si le vice-pr\u00e9sident avait donn\u00e9 instruction aux d\u00e9put\u00e9s de faire conna\u00eetre leur vote sans formuler de remarques suppl\u00e9mentaires. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842674\" data-originallang=\"en\">Comme ce fut le cas \u00e0 la suite des difficult\u00e9s semblables \u00e9prouv\u00e9es vendredi dernier, la pr\u00e9sidence a demand\u00e9 \u00e0 l\u2019Administration de la Chambre d\u2019enqu\u00eater sur la situation. De nombreux employ\u00e9s ont travaill\u00e9 hier soir pour confirmer, une fois de plus, qu\u2019il n\u2019y avait pas eu de panne g\u00e9n\u00e9ralis\u00e9e et que, mis \u00e0 part quelques cas isol\u00e9s, l\u2019application avait fonctionn\u00e9 comme il se doit. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842675\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Voil\u00e0 deux ans que la Chambre utilise l'application de vote. De mani\u00e8re g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, lors d'un vote, le nombre de d\u00e9put\u00e9s qui \u00e9prouvent des difficult\u00e9s techniques est faible. En cas de probl\u00e8me, la proc\u00e9dure appropri\u00e9e consiste \u00e0 se connecter \u00e0 la s\u00e9ance par vid\u00e9oconf\u00e9rence et \u00e0 voter de vive voix. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842676\" data-originallang=\"fr\">\u00c0 l'occasion, l'application signale aux d\u00e9put\u00e9s un probl\u00e8me possible et les invite \u00e0 confirmer leur vote par vid\u00e9oconf\u00e9rence. C'est normal et cela ne pose habituellement aucun probl\u00e8me au peu de d\u00e9put\u00e9s touch\u00e9s. Enfin, communiquer avec un responsable des TI permet souvent de r\u00e9gler des difficult\u00e9s techniques, ce qui, comme les d\u00e9put\u00e9s le savent, est une solution fortement recommand\u00e9e en cas de probl\u00e8me. Les probl\u00e8mes sont alors normalement r\u00e9gl\u00e9s tr\u00e8s rapidement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842677\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ce qui est inusit\u00e9, c\u2019est que, tant vendredi qu\u2019hier, un nombre particuli\u00e8rement important de d\u00e9put\u00e9s ont sembl\u00e9 rencontrer des difficult\u00e9s, et ils appartenaient presque exclusivement \u00e0 un seul et m\u00eame parti politique. Or, seulement trois d\u00e9put\u00e9s ont tent\u00e9 de communiquer avec l\u2019\u00e9quipe de soutien informatique durant les votes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842678\" data-originallang=\"en\">L\u2019un des avantages de l\u2019application de vote, c\u2019est que les d\u00e9put\u00e9s peuvent s\u2019en servir partout au Canada. Par cons\u00e9quent, la pr\u00e9sidence trouve curieux \u2014 voire inqui\u00e9tant \u2014 le fait qu\u2019hier, bon nombre des d\u00e9put\u00e9s qui semblent avoir eu des probl\u00e8mes utilisaient l\u2019application dans leur antichambre. Par ailleurs, pour rem\u00e9dier aux probl\u00e8mes all\u00e9gu\u00e9s, ils ont choisi de se connecter \u00e0 la s\u00e9ance par vid\u00e9oconf\u00e9rence \u00e0 partir de l\u2019antichambre au lieu de parcourir quelques m\u00e8tres et de p\u00e9n\u00e9trer dans l\u2019enceinte de la Chambre pour clarifier leur vote.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842679\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ce qui me pr\u00e9occupe davantage, ce sont les probl\u00e8mes de retour sonore que cela a engendr\u00e9, nuisant \u00e0 la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 des interpr\u00e8tes. Le vice-pr\u00e9sident a d\u2019ailleurs abord\u00e9 cette question hier. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842680\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Dans ce contexte, la pr\u00e9sidence soup\u00e7onne que ces difficult\u00e9s n\u2019\u00e9taient pas de nature technologique. La v\u00e9rification de nos registres techniques d\u00e9bouche sur la m\u00eame conclusion.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842681\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Dans la d\u00e9cision rendue lundi, et figurant \u00e0 la page 15261 des D\u00e9bats, j'ai d\u00e9clar\u00e9 ceci:</p>\n<blockquote><p data-HoCid=\"7842682\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> La pr\u00e9sidence respecte au plus haut point le processus de vote. La r\u00e9ussite de l'application de vote repose sur la bonne foi des d\u00e9put\u00e9s. Il incombe \u00e0 tous les d\u00e9put\u00e9s de traiter leur droit de vote \u00e0 la Chambre avec le respect qu'il m\u00e9rite et d'une mani\u00e8re qui en refl\u00e8te le caract\u00e8re sacr\u00e9. </p>\n</blockquote><p data-HoCid=\"7842683\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> L'ajournement estival arrive \u00e0 grands pas. Je comprends que la tension est forte par moments et que les d\u00e9saccords peuvent s'accentuer. Toutefois, la pr\u00e9sidence implore les d\u00e9put\u00e9s de soigneusement r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir \u00e0 leurs actions et \u00e0 l'exemple qu'ils donnent.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842684\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Le 14 mars 2008, le Pr\u00e9sident Milliken a dit, \u00e0 la page 4183 des D\u00e9bats:</p>\n<blockquote><p data-HoCid=\"7842685\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Comme tous les Canadiens et Canadiennes \u2014 et certes les d\u00e9put\u00e9s \u2014, je comprends et j\u2019accepte que les exigences politiques dictent souvent le choix des strat\u00e9gies adopt\u00e9es par les partis \u00e0 la Chambre. Toutefois, en ma qualit\u00e9 de Pr\u00e9sident, je fais appel \u00e0 ceux et celles \u00e0 qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 confi\u00e9e la gestion des affaires de ce Parlement \u2014 les leaders parlementaires et les whips de tous les partis \u2014 pour leur demander de faire preuve de leadership en la mati\u00e8re. [\u2026] Je leur demande de travailler en collaboration afin de trouver un \u00e9quilibre qui permettra aux partis de poursuivre leurs objectifs politiques et aux d\u00e9put\u00e9s de continuer leur travail. </p>\n</blockquote><p data-HoCid=\"7842686\" data-originallang=\"en\">Dans cet esprit, la pr\u00e9sidence r\u00e9it\u00e8re son souhait que les d\u00e9put\u00e9s votent avec la solennit\u00e9 qu\u2019un tel acte m\u00e9rite et s\u2019abstiennent d\u2019employer des actions qui jettent le discr\u00e9dit sur la Chambre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7842687\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je remercie les d\u00e9put\u00e9s de leur attention.</p>"
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    "url": "/debates/2023/6/8/the-speaker-16/",
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    "source_id": "12275739",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Oral Questions",
        "fr": "Questions orales"
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    "h2": {
        "en": "Points of Order",
        "fr": "Recours au R\u00e8glement"
    },
    "h3": {
        "en": "Technical Issues Raised During the Taking of Recorded Division\u2014Speaker's Ruling",
        "fr": "Les probl\u00e8mes techniques soulev\u00e9s durant le vote par appel nominal \u2014 D\u00e9cision de la pr\u00e9sidence"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2023/6/8/",
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