Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2023-06-16 12:50:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie (Joliette, BQ)",
        "fr": "M. Gabriel Ste-Marie (Joliette, BQ)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7873132\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Speaker, I would just like to share my opinion on the gag orders, because judging by what the parliamentary secretary to the government House leader and the minister are saying, one would have to wonder whether gag orders are not the best thing since sliced bread. I consider gag orders to be a technique used to systematically muzzle the elected members of the House, which is unacceptable. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7873133\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I believe that when the government invokes closure, it is because the government House leader has mismanaged the time spent on House business. All parties support Bill <a data-HoCid=\"11792112\" href=\"/bills/44-1/S-8/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts and to amend the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations\">S\u20118</a>. We are now at third reading, the committee did a good job, everything is going well, and I do not think that there were many members who wanted to speak at this stage.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7873134\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I will give an example. Last night, until midnight, we discussed Bill <a data-HoCid=\"11501554\" href=\"/bills/44-1/C-9/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Judges Act\">C\u20119</a>. We have discussed this several times before, even before the last election. Why has the government House leader not been able to say that this is important, that it enjoys a fairly broad consensus and that it will be implemented quickly? Instead, it takes years to be adopted and implemented.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7873135\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I have two other examples. Closure was also invoked for Bill <a data-HoCid=\"12341217\" href=\"/bills/44-1/C-47/\" title=\"An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 28, 2023\">C\u201147</a>, the budget implementation bill. It is hundreds of pages long and all the organizations that wanted to delve into it would have needed time to do so. Imposing closure on such a bill limits the amount of time available to go through it and the ability to correct the flaws in committee. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7873136\" data-originallang=\"fr\">One last and extreme example dates back to the pandemic, when the government was not taking action. At one point, it came up with a bill that was to go through all stages immediately. We asked for a few weeks to study it. We wanted it to be introduced so that people could go through it and improve it. However, the government did not want to do that and said that everything had to be passed as soon as possible, without any study or review. Well, it then had to present other bills to fix the first one. That is an unacceptable and absolutely amateurish way of doing things.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7873132\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, je voudrais juste faire part de mon avis sur les b\u00e2illons, parce qu'\u00e0 \u00e9couter le secr\u00e9taire parlementaire du leader du gouvernement \u00e0 la Chambre et le ministre, on se demande si les b\u00e2illons ne sont pas la meilleure invention depuis le pain tranch\u00e9. Pour moi, un b\u00e2illon reste une technique qui mus\u00e8le syst\u00e9matiquement les \u00e9lus de la Chambre, ce qui est inacceptable. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7873133\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Pour moi, quand le gouvernement impose le b\u00e2illon, c'est que le leader du gouvernement \u00e0 la Chambre a mal g\u00e9r\u00e9 le temps consacr\u00e9 aux travaux. Tous les partis sont en faveur du projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"11792112\" href=\"/bills/44-1/S-8/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts and to amend the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations\">S\u20118</a>. Nous en sommes rendus \u00e0 l'\u00e9tape de la troisi\u00e8me lecture, le travail a bien \u00e9t\u00e9 fait en comit\u00e9, tout va bien, et je ne pense pas qu'il y avait \u00e9norm\u00e9ment d'orateurs qui auraient voulu intervenir \u00e0 ce stade-ci.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7873134\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Je prends un exemple. Hier soir, jusqu'\u00e0 minuit, on a discut\u00e9 du projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"11501554\" href=\"/bills/44-1/C-9/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Judges Act\">C\u20119</a>. On en a discut\u00e9 plusieurs fois auparavant, m\u00eame avant les derni\u00e8res \u00e9lections. Pourquoi est-ce que le leader du gouvernement \u00e0 la Chambre n'a pas \u00e9t\u00e9 capable de dire que c'est important, que c'est assez consensuel et qu'on va rapidement le mettre en \u0153uvre? Les choses prennent plut\u00f4t des ann\u00e9es avant d'\u00eatre adopt\u00e9es et mises en \u0153uvre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7873135\" data-originallang=\"fr\">J'ai deux autres exemples. Le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"12341217\" href=\"/bills/44-1/C-47/\" title=\"An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 28, 2023\">C\u201147</a> de mise en \u0153uvre du budget a lui aussi fait l'objet d'un b\u00e2illon. Il comporte des centaines de pages et tous les organismes qui voulaient en prendre connaissance auraient eu besoin de temps. Quand on impose un b\u00e2illon pour un tel projet de loi, on limite le temps de prise de connaissance du projet de loi et la capacit\u00e9 d'en corriger les failles en comit\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7873136\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> Un dernier exemple, extr\u00eame, remonte \u00e0 pendant la pand\u00e9mie, alors que le gouvernement n'agissait pas. \u00c0 un moment donn\u00e9, il est arriv\u00e9 avec un projet de loi qui devait franchir toutes les \u00e9tapes imm\u00e9diatement. On a demand\u00e9 \u00e0 avoir quelques semaines pour l'\u00e9tudier. On aurait voulu qu'il soit pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 pour que les gens en prennent connaissance et qu'il soit ensuite bonifi\u00e9. Cependant, le gouvernement n'a pas voulu faire cela, disant que tout devait \u00eatre adopt\u00e9 aussit\u00f4t, sans \u00e9tude et sans recul. Or, il a d\u00fb pr\u00e9senter d'autres projets de loi par la suite pour corriger le premier. C'est une fa\u00e7on de faire qui est inacceptable et que n'adopteraient pas des scouts en culottes courtes.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2023/6/16/gabriel-ste-marie-10/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/gabriel-ste-marie/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4482/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "12300186",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Ordres \u00e9manant du gouvernement"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Immigration and Refugee Protection Act",
        "fr": "La Loi sur l'immigration et la protection des r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s"
    },
    "h3": {
        "en": "Bill S-8\u2014Time Allocation Motion",
        "fr": "Projet de loi S\u20118 \u2014 Motion d'attribution de temps"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2023/6/16/",
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