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{
    "time": "2023-06-13 21:10:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Ms. Elizabeth May (Saanich\u2014Gulf Islands, GP)",
        "fr": "Mme Elizabeth May (Saanich\u2014Gulf Islands, PV)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7858694\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Speaker, I certainly appreciate what the member said about the disadvantages of not being able to meet in person, but I have been here long enough to have watched friends and colleagues, before the days when hybrid was allowed, drag themselves in here literally from their deathbeds to protect their work because there were no rules to allow virtual participation.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7858695\" data-originallang=\"en\">In particular I remember the hon. member for Ottawa\u2014Vanier. Some members here tonight may recall when Mauril B\u00e9langer, whose name I can say because he is passed away, had to protect a piece of private member's legislation. The only way under our rules to do that was to show up here physically. It was painful to watch what it cost him in his dying days to physically be here.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7858696\" data-originallang=\"en\">I would say to the hon. member that there are so many advantages to hybrid Parliament. I am not unsympathetic to the idea that it should not be a default option, but I desperately want to make sure we never again see colleagues suffering with cancer, near death, who feel they must physically be here to do their work.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7858694\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, je comprends certainement ce que veut dire le d\u00e9put\u00e9 au sujet des inconv\u00e9nients de ne pas pouvoir se r\u00e9unir en personne, mais je si\u00e8ge \u00e0 la Chambre depuis assez longtemps pour avoir vu des amis et des coll\u00e8gues, avant l'\u00e9poque o\u00f9 les s\u00e9ances hybrides \u00e9taient autoris\u00e9es, se tra\u00eener ici litt\u00e9ralement depuis leur lit de mort pour voir \u00e0 leur travail parce qu'il n'y avait pas de r\u00e8gles qui autorisaient la participation \u00e0 distance.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7858695\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je me souviens en particulier du d\u00e9put\u00e9 d'Ottawa\u2014Vanier. Certains des d\u00e9put\u00e9s pr\u00e9sents ce soir se souviennent peut-\u00eatre de l'\u00e9poque o\u00f9 Mauril B\u00e9langer, dont je peux dire le nom parce qu'il est d\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9, qui a d\u00fb s'occuper de son projet de loi d'initiative parlementaire. Selon nos r\u00e8gles, la seule fa\u00e7on de le faire \u00e9tait d'\u00eatre pr\u00e9sent \u00e0 la Chambre. C'\u00e9tait tr\u00e8s p\u00e9nible de voir \u00e0 quel point il \u00e9tait difficile pour lui, dans ses derniers jours, d'\u00eatre ici en personne.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7858696\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je dirais au d\u00e9put\u00e9 que les s\u00e9ances hybrides offrent tellement d'avantages. Je ne suis pas insensible \u00e0 l'id\u00e9e qu'il ne devrait pas s'agir de l'option par d\u00e9faut, mais je veux d\u00e9sesp\u00e9r\u00e9ment faire en sorte que nous ne verrons plus jamais de coll\u00e8gues atteints d'un cancer et \u00e0 l'article de la mort qui estiment qu'ils doivent \u00eatre pr\u00e9sents pour faire leur travail.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2023/6/13/elizabeth-may-2/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/elizabeth-may/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4108/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "12290427",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Ordres \u00e9manant du gouvernement"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Government Business No. 26\u2014Amendments to the Standing Orders",
        "fr": "L'affaire \u00e9manant du gouvernement no 26 \u2014 Les modifications au R\u00e8glement"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2023/6/13/",
    "related": {
        "document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2023%2F6%2F13%2F"
    }
}