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{
    "time": "2023-06-12 21:50:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Peter Julian (New Westminster\u2014Burnaby, NDP)",
        "fr": "M. Peter Julian (New Westminster\u2014Burnaby, NPD)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7854827\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madam Speaker, I like the member and enjoyed working with him at Canadian heritage. He did a great job as vice-chair. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7854828\" data-originallang=\"en\">I am prefacing my remarks in praising the member, but I have got to say his memory is faulty. I lived through the Harper regime, and I saw how the Conservatives ran roughshod over parliamentary rights. Through the entire majority mandate of its last four years, it was absolutely appalling and atrocious. Therefore, for the member to somehow cite the Harper government as an example to follow, I strongly disagree.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7854829\" data-originallang=\"en\">However, the member talked about this being before the House now, but where did this come from? The member will recall that, as a House, we referred it to procedure and House affairs. Procedure and House affairs had as its first recommendation reporting back to the House of Commons: \u201cThat hybrid Parliament, including the voting application, be continued and that all necessary changes to the Standing Orders be made to allow for its use, and that the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs must review these measures within the first year of the 45th Parliament.\u201d </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7854830\" data-originallang=\"en\">Therefore, the procedure and House affairs committee recommendation before us now is to be voted on by Parliament, so I simply disagree with the member's interpretation of the facts. Procedure and House affairs\u2014</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7854827\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, j'aime bien le d\u00e9put\u00e9 et j'ai aim\u00e9 travailler avec lui au comit\u00e9 du patrimoine. Il a fait un excellent travail en tant que vice-pr\u00e9sident.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7854828\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je commence mes observations avec des fleurs pour le d\u00e9put\u00e9, mais je dois dire que sa m\u00e9moire lui joue des tours. J'ai travers\u00e9 le r\u00e9gime Harper et je sais comment les conservateurs ont bafou\u00e9 les droits parlementaires. Les quatre derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es de son mandat majoritaire ont \u00e9t\u00e9 compl\u00e8tement \u00e9pouvantables et atroces. Par cons\u00e9quent, je suis totalement en d\u00e9saccord avec le d\u00e9put\u00e9 lorsqu'il cite le gouvernement Harper comme un exemple \u00e0 suivre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7854829\" data-originallang=\"en\">Cela dit, le d\u00e9put\u00e9 a parl\u00e9 du fait que la Chambre est saisie de la motion maintenant, mais d'o\u00f9 vient-elle? Le d\u00e9put\u00e9 se souviendra que la Chambre a renvoy\u00e9 la question au comit\u00e9 de la proc\u00e9dure et des affaires de la Chambre. Dans son rapport \u00e0 la Chambre, la premi\u00e8re recommandation du comit\u00e9 \u00e9tait la suivante: \u00ab Que le parlement hybride, y compris l\u2019application de vote \u00e9lectronique, soit maintenu et que tous les changements n\u00e9cessaires soient apport\u00e9s au R\u00e8glement de la Chambre des communes pour permettre son usage, et que le Comit\u00e9 permanent de la proc\u00e9dure et des affaires de la Chambre revoit ces mesures au cours de la premi\u00e8re ann\u00e9e de la 45<sup>e</sup> l\u00e9gislature. \u00bb</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7854830\" data-originallang=\"en\">Par cons\u00e9quent, la recommandation du comit\u00e9 de la proc\u00e9dure et des affaires de la Chambre qui est maintenant \u00e0 l'\u00e9tude fera l'objet d'un vote au Parlement. Je rejette donc tout simplement l'interpr\u00e9tation des faits par le d\u00e9put\u00e9. Le comit\u00e9 de la proc\u00e9dure et des affaires de la Chambre...</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2023/6/12/peter-julian-9/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/peter-julian/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4198/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "12285717",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Ordres \u00e9manant du gouvernement"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Government Business No. 26\u2014Amendments to the Standing Orders",
        "fr": "L'affaire \u00e9manant du gouvernement no 26 \u2014 Les modifications au R\u00e8glement"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2023/6/12/",
    "related": {
        "document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2023%2F6%2F12%2F"
    }
}