Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2023-03-28 10:20:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Tom Kmiec (Calgary Shepard, CPC)",
        "fr": "M. Tom Kmiec (Calgary Shepard, PCC)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7659238\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madam Speaker, let us start with the obvious: The IRGC or <em>Sepah</em>, as it is known in Farsi, is a terrorist group. It has been a terrorist organization for decades, since 1979. It has been organizing terror campaigns in the Middle East, both against opponents of the Iranian Islamic regime in Tehran and also against its own people. It has been successful at intimidating and bullying, but also at murdering its political opponents wherever they are, whether they are in Europe, in Africa, or in the Middle East, including right in Iran. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659239\" data-originallang=\"en\">We have seen this ever since September 2022, after the murder of Jina Amini, a Kurdish woman from the city of Saqqez. She was visiting Tehran when she was picked up by the morality police for not wearing her hijab properly. When they noticed that she was Kurdish, that led to her eventual beating and murder by the regime, which then kicked off the mass protests in her home town of Saqqez, and then the worse protest in Sanandaj, which had the worst repression by IRGC militiamen.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659240\" data-originallang=\"en\">I was looking on ChatGPT, which is a fancy little AI program, and I asked it what is a great Yiddish proverb on doing the right thing. ChatGPT gave me this one: \u201cTo conquer the world, the best tactic is to be a mensch\u201d, meaning a person of integrity. The government needs to be that personhood of integrity in this case. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659241\" data-originallang=\"en\">In 2018, the Parliament of Canada passed a motion calling on the Government of Canada to list the IRGC as a terror group. A person of integrity would have listened to Parliament then. They would look at 2022 and 2023, today, at the ongoing protests, because they have not ended. Many protesters have been executed. Many protesters have life sentences that have been given to them for the simple act of standing up for the democratic and human rights that they are entitled to by their very creator. Just by being, they are entitled to these rights: to disagree with their government and to protest peacefully on the streets of whatever city they want in Iran, something that many of them have not been able to do since 1979, since the mullahs of Khan took over the country and led it down a dark, dark path.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659242\" data-originallang=\"en\">There are names I want to mention, because I have been told repeatedly by Iranians, including Persians, Kurds, Baloch and Azerbaijanis who live in Iran, that it actually matters when we mention names in this House. The Iranian regime is worried that we will mention protesters, human rights activists and democracy activists because it will save their lives, so I am going to start with a few. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659243\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nazila Maroufian is a 23-year-old journalist. She was actually a journalist with Ruydad 24 and she was one of the first to cover the story. She interviewed one of the parents of Jina Amini and, for her troubles to get the truth out, she was jailed. She was put on a show trial at first, then released and put on a new show trial. Her sentence is two years in jail and a five-year ban from leaving Iran. She is one of those victims of the IRGC and I am calling on the Iranian regime to release her.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659244\" data-originallang=\"en\">There are many names that we can see on the Hengaw Organization for Human Rights list. This is a human rights group working in Iran itself that, for decades, has been describing the different crimes being committed by the Islamic regime against all the people of Iran, often targeting Kurds from the western provinces, a region that many Kurds call \u201c<em>Rojhelat</em>\u201d, especially <em>kolbar</em> Kurds. These are people, typically men, who go across the border into Iraq and bring much-needed supplies such as medicine and food. Supplies are very hard to come by in certain parts of Iran, or the costs are extremely high. These are individuals who are shot at by IRGC border guards and indiscriminately killed for the simple act of trying to bring bread, food and medication to people on the Iranian side.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659245\" data-originallang=\"en\">I want to mention two more people, whom I politically sponsored, a practice that is often done in the European Union by politicians in international governments. They are Mohammad Amin Akhlaghi and Amir Mohammad Jafari. Both of these individuals were peaceful protesters. They were simply standing up for their right just to be heard, as citizens of their country. In their cases, the first one now has a retrial; the second one was sentenced to death, which was commuted to a prolonged imprisonment and it is unclear how long he will be in jail. They are another two victims of the IRGC, so why do we not list it as a terrorist group? None of these people have done anything violent. They simply stood up for their rights.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659246\" data-originallang=\"en\">The list goes on. There was an Iranian soccer player who was sentenced to death, Amir Nasr-Azadani, for the simple act of disagreeing with his government and saying that his government was wrong in the suppression and oppression of women in Iran, and how it is doing it. That is another victim of the IRGC, a terror group. He is being victimized by the IRGC and faces a death sentence.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659247\" data-originallang=\"en\">We have often heard in these videos, and I have many Persian friends and Kurdish friends who send me these videos from different cities in Iran, women and men chanting \u201c<em>Jin, Jiyan, Azadi</em>\u201d or \u201cWomen, Life, Freedom.\u201d It is a very basic ask that they are calling for here.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659248\" data-originallang=\"en\">We have an Islamic regime based in Tehran that is completely disconnected from its own citizens, and, what is more, it exports its violence and terrorism to other parts of the world and intimidates Canadians right here in our country. I have met with Canadians in Vancouver, Burnaby, New Westminster and PoCo who are all worried. They self-censor sometimes, because they are worried.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659249\" data-originallang=\"en\">The diaspora community in Canada has never been more united than it is right now. There was a major rally in Toronto this weekend with many speakers speaking on freedom for Iran. A free Iran is what they aspire to, including the very well-known Masih Alinejad, an Iranian American journalist. She has harrowing tales of being persecuted by the IRGC, including a kidnapping plot that was broken up by the FBI in the United States. She travels with security now, because the IRGC is actively looking to kidnap her or murder her for the simple act of standing up for the rights of women and men in Iran.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659250\" data-originallang=\"en\">This is not a regime we should do business with. This is not a regime we should countenance. This is not a regime we should have half measures with. A person of integrity would list the IRGC as a terror group. It is the last, final act we need to do.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659251\" data-originallang=\"en\">I want to mention a few more things on this particular issue and another four names, another four victims of the IRGC terror group. These come from a friend of mine, Reza Niarian, from Vancouver. The four names are Pejman Fatehi, Mohsen Mazloum, Mohammad Faramarzi and Wafa Azarbar. All four face the death penalty. Their great crime is organizing for a political party. We all know people on both sides who organize for political parties here in Canada. It is a basic freedom, the freedom of association to organize for a political purpose. They were not calling for violence or anything like that; they were simply organizing for a political party, which I think is a very basic human right.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659252\" data-originallang=\"en\">These four men are facing the death penalty in Iran. Only with a terror group in a court run by the IRGC would this be the case. There is actually very limited information being provided publicly about the charges, the evidence and the details of their case. These are another four victims of the IRGC. This is a terror group. There is ample evidence of the fact that this is a terror group and we should be listing it as a terror group.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659253\" data-originallang=\"en\">We just had the new year, Nowruz. Whatever people call it and whatever particular traditions they have around it, people in central Asia have been celebrating it for thousands and thousands of years, and I hope they spend it with family. I hope they have a happy and prosperous new year, but for the people of Iran it has not been a good start to the new year.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659254\" data-originallang=\"en\">The protests continue. The oppression continues. The random extrajudicial killings by the IRGC militia continue. These things continue, and they keep exporting that violence to other countries. Their agents continue to travel, because it is not as if they show up at the border at Toronto Pearson airport and disclose to the CBSA officer that they are working on behalf of the IRGC. They do it in secret. They continue to travel. They have sympathizers, both in our country and in the United States, who continue to intimidate Canadians of Iranian heritage, Persian heritage or Kurdish heritage.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659255\" data-originallang=\"en\">I am glad we could debate this today as a follow-up to what has been happening since September, because we continue to call on the government to list the IRGC or <em>Sepah</em> as a terror group. The government needs to do, as in the Yiddish proverb, what a mensch would do. I strongly believe that a person of integrity would list it immediately as a terror group. If there are changes that need to be made to the laws, the government has had since September to make them. There has been ample time to change our laws so that IRGC conscripts, those unfortunate souls who are conscripted by his terror group, would not be affected by listing them as a terror group.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7659238\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, commen\u00e7ons par ce qui est \u00e9vident: le Corps des Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique, ou <em>Sepah</em> en farsi, est un groupe terroriste. Voil\u00e0 des d\u00e9cennies que c\u2019est une organisation terroriste, depuis 1979. Il organise des campagnes de terreur au Moyen\u2011Orient contre des opposants au r\u00e9gime islamique iranien \u00e0 T\u00e9h\u00e9ran et aussi contre les Iraniens. Il r\u00e9ussit \u00e0 intimider et \u00e0 harceler les gens, mais aussi \u00e0 assassiner ses opposants politiques o\u00f9 qu\u2019ils se trouvent, que ce soit en Europe, en Afrique ou au Moyen\u2011Orient, y compris en Iran m\u00eame.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659239\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous le voyons depuis septembre 2022, apr\u00e8s l\u2019assassinat de Jina Amini, une Kurde de la ville de Saqqez. Elle \u00e9tait de passage \u00e0 T\u00e9h\u00e9ran quand elle a \u00e9t\u00e9 arr\u00eat\u00e9e par la police des m\u0153urs parce qu\u2019elle ne portait pas correctement son hijab. Quand il est apparu qu\u2019elle \u00e9tait Kurde, cela a conduit \u00e0 son passage \u00e0 tabac et \u00e0 son assassinat par le r\u00e9gime, ce qui a provoqu\u00e9 des manifestations massives dans sa ville, Saqqez, et ensuite, la pire manifestation \u00e0 Sanandaj, o\u00f9 les miliciens du Corps des Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique se sont livr\u00e9s \u00e0 la pire r\u00e9pression.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659240\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je consultais ChatGPT, qui est un beau petit programme d\u2019intelligence artificielle, et je lui ai demand\u00e9 un tr\u00e8s bon proverbe yiddish pour ce qui est de faire la bonne chose. ChatGPT m\u2019a donn\u00e9 celui-ci: \u00ab Pour conqu\u00e9rir le monde, la meilleure tactique est d\u2019\u00eatre un \u201cmensch\u201d \u00bb, c\u2019est-\u00e0-dire une personne int\u00e8gre. En l'occurrence, le gouvernement doit \u00eatre cette personne int\u00e8gre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659241\" data-originallang=\"en\">En 2018, le Parlement du Canada a adopt\u00e9 une motion demandant au gouvernement du Canada d\u2019inscrire le Corps des Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique sur la liste des groupes terroristes. Une personne int\u00e8gre aurait \u00e9cout\u00e9 le Parlement \u00e0 l'\u00e9poque. Elle regarderait ce qui se passe aujourd\u2019hui en 2022 et 2023, et elle verrait les manifestations actuelles, parce qu\u2019elles n\u2019ont pas cess\u00e9. Beaucoup de manifestants ont \u00e9t\u00e9 ex\u00e9cut\u00e9s. Beaucoup ont \u00e9t\u00e9 condamn\u00e9s \u00e0 la prison \u00e0 vie pour le simple fait d\u2019avoir d\u00e9fendu les droits d\u00e9mocratiques et les droits de la personne que leur a conf\u00e9r\u00e9s leur propre cr\u00e9ateur. Rien qu\u2019en existant, ils ont ces droits. Ils ont le droit de ne pas \u00eatre d\u2019accord avec leur gouvernement et de manifester pacifiquement dans les rues de n\u2019importe quelle ville iranienne, ce que nombre d\u2019entre eux ne peuvent plus faire depuis 1979, depuis que les mollahs de Khan ont pris le pouvoir et plong\u00e9 le pays dans les t\u00e9n\u00e8bres.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659242\" data-originallang=\"en\">Il y a des noms que je veux mentionner parce que des Iraniens, y compris des Perses, des Kurdes, des Baloutches et des Azerba\u00efdjanais qui vivent en Iran, m\u2019ont dit \u00e0 plusieurs reprises qu\u2019il est important que nous mentionnions des noms \u00e0 la Chambre. Le r\u00e9gime iranien craint que nous nommions des manifestants, des d\u00e9fenseurs des droits de la personne et de la d\u00e9mocratie, parce que cela leur sauvera la vie. Je vais donc commencer par en nommer quelques-uns.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659243\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nazila Maroufian est une journaliste de 23 ans. Elle \u00e9tait, en fait, journaliste pour Ruydad 24 et elle a \u00e9t\u00e9 une des premi\u00e8res \u00e0 couvrir l\u2019histoire. Elle a interview\u00e9 un des parents de Jina Amini et, pour avoir cherch\u00e9 \u00e0 faire \u00e9clater la v\u00e9rit\u00e9, elle a \u00e9t\u00e9 emprisonn\u00e9e. Elle a d\u2019abord subi une parodie de proc\u00e8s, puis elle a \u00e9t\u00e9 rel\u00e2ch\u00e9e et a subi une nouvelle parodie de proc\u00e8s. Elle a \u00e9t\u00e9 condamn\u00e9e \u00e0 deux ans de prison et \u00e0 une interdiction de quitter l\u2019Iran pendant cinq ans. Elle fait partie des victimes du Corps des Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique, et je demande au r\u00e9gime iranien de la lib\u00e9rer.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659244\" data-originallang=\"en\">Beaucoup de noms figurent sur la liste de l\u2019organisation Hengaw, un groupe de d\u00e9fense des droits de la personne. \u00c0 partir de son antenne en Iran, ce groupe d\u00e9crit depuis des d\u00e9cennies les crimes commis par le r\u00e9gime islamique contre la population iranienne, souvent contre les Kurdes des provinces de l\u2019Ouest, une r\u00e9gion que les Kurdes <em>kolbars</em> appellent \u00ab <em>Rojhelat</em> \u00bb. Les cibles sont des gens, surtout des hommes, qui traversent la fronti\u00e8re irakienne pour aller chercher des produits de premi\u00e8re n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 comme des aliments et des m\u00e9dicaments. \u00c0 certains endroits en Iran, il est tr\u00e8s difficile de se les procurer ou encore ils co\u00fbtent extr\u00eamement cher. Ces gens-l\u00e0 sont traqu\u00e9s par les gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique d\u00e8s qu\u2019ils traversent la fronti\u00e8re et ils se font tuer pour la simple raison qu\u2019ils rapportent du pain, de la nourriture et des m\u00e9dicaments \u00e0 leurs compatriotes habitant sur le territoire iranien.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659245\" data-originallang=\"en\">J\u2019aimerais citer le nom de deux autres personnes que j\u2019ai parrain\u00e9es politiquement, ce qui est pratique courante chez les politiciens de l\u2019Union europ\u00e9enne. Il s\u2019agit de Mohammad Amin Akhlaghi et d\u2019Amir Mohammad Jafari, qui \u00e9taient tous les deux des manifestants pacifiques. Ils \u00e9taient l\u00e0 simplement pour d\u00e9fendre leur droit d\u2019\u00eatre entendus, en tant que citoyens de leur pays. Le premier est en train de subir un nouveau proc\u00e8s, tandis que l\u2019autre, apr\u00e8s avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 condamn\u00e9 une premi\u00e8re fois \u00e0 la peine de mort, a finalement \u00e9t\u00e9 condamn\u00e9 \u00e0 une longue peine de prison, mais on ignore pour combien de temps. Il y a deux autres noms de victimes des gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique, et je me demande donc pourquoi nous n\u2019inscrivons pas ce groupe sur la liste des groupes terroristes. Aucune de ces personnes n\u2019avait commis des actes violents, elles \u00e9taient simplement l\u00e0 pour d\u00e9fendre leurs droits.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659246\" data-originallang=\"en\">La liste n\u2019est pas termin\u00e9e. On y voit aussi le nom d\u2019un footballeur iranien qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 condamn\u00e9 \u00e0 mort, Amir Nasr-Azadani, au seul motif qu\u2019il a exprim\u00e9 son d\u00e9saccord avec l'oppression et la suppression des femmes par son gouvernement en Iran et les m\u00e9thodes utilis\u00e9es pour y parvenir. Il est donc lui aussi victime des gardiens de la r\u00e9volution et il fait face \u00e0 la peine de mort.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659247\" data-originallang=\"en\">Dans les vid\u00e9os que m\u2019envoient mes amis perses et kurdes de diff\u00e9rentes villes iraniennes, on entend les femmes et les hommes scander \u00ab <em>Jin, Jiyan, Azadi</em> \u00bb, c\u2019est-\u00e0-dire \u00ab Femmes, Vie, Libert\u00e9 \u00bb. Ce qu\u2019ils r\u00e9clament c'est le respect de droits fondamentaux.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659248\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le r\u00e9gime islamique de T\u00e9h\u00e9ran est compl\u00e8tement d\u00e9connect\u00e9 de ses citoyens et, qui plus est, il exporte la violence et le terrorisme dans d\u2019autres pays, y compris chez nous pour intimider des Canadiens. J\u2019ai rencontr\u00e9 des Canadiens \u00e0 Vancouver, \u00e0 Burnaby, \u00e0 New Westminster et \u00e0 Port Coquitlam qui \u00e9taient tr\u00e8s inquiets, au point de s\u2019autocensurer parfois.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659249\" data-originallang=\"en\">La diaspora iranienne au Canada n\u2019a jamais \u00e9t\u00e9 aussi unie qu\u2019aujourd\u2019hui. Il y a eu un rassemblement massif \u00e0 Toronto le week-end dernier, o\u00f9 beaucoup de personnes ont pris la parole sur la libert\u00e9 en Iran. Ces personnes aspirent toutes au r\u00e9tablissement de la libert\u00e9 en Iran, y compris la c\u00e9l\u00e8bre journaliste irano-am\u00e9ricaine, Masih Alinejad. Elle raconte comment elle est pers\u00e9cut\u00e9e par les gardiens de la r\u00e9volution, et comment ils projetaient de la kidnapper, si le FBI am\u00e9ricain n\u2019avait pas r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 d\u00e9jouer leur complot. Dor\u00e9navant, elle est prot\u00e9g\u00e9e par un service de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 dans ses d\u00e9placements, car les gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique cherchent toujours \u00e0 la kidnapper ou \u00e0 la tuer simplement parce qu\u2019elle d\u00e9fend les droits des hommes et des femmes en Iran.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659250\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ce n\u2019est pas un r\u00e9gime avec lequel nous pouvons traiter. Ce n\u2019est pas un r\u00e9gime que nous pouvons tol\u00e9rer. Ce n\u2019est pas un r\u00e9gime avec lequel nous pouvons faire des compromis. Toute personne int\u00e8gre inscrirait le Corps des Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique sur la liste des groupes terroristes. Ce doit \u00eatre notre d\u00e9cision ultime.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659251\" data-originallang=\"en\">Toujours sur le m\u00eame sujet, j\u2019aimerais citer les noms de quatre autres victimes des Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique. Ils m\u2019ont \u00e9t\u00e9 communiqu\u00e9s par un ami de Vancouver, Reza Niarian. Les quatre personnes sont Pejman Fatehi, Mohsen Mazloum, Mohammad Faramarzi et Wafa Azarbar. Ces quatre personnes risquent la peine de mort. Le grand crime qu'ils ont commis a \u00e9t\u00e9 d'organiser un parti politique. Nous connaissons tous des gens de diff\u00e9rentes all\u00e9geances qui organisent des partis politiques ici au Canada. La libert\u00e9 de s\u2019associer dans un but politique est une libert\u00e9 fondamentale. Ces quatre personnes n\u2019incitaient pas \u00e0 la violence ni \u00e0 quoi que ce soit du genre, ils essayaient tout simplement d\u2019organiser un parti politique, ce qui est un droit absolument fondamental.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659252\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ils sont aujourd\u2019hui passibles de la peine de mort en Iran. La seule explication possible, c\u2019est que le tribunal est dirig\u00e9 par les Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique, qui forment un groupe terroriste. Tr\u00e8s peu d'informations ont \u00e9t\u00e9 publi\u00e9es au sujet des chefs d'accusation, des preuves et des circonstances de leur affaire. Ce sont donc quatre autres victimes des Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique, qui est bel et bien un groupe terroriste. Toutes les preuves indiquent qu\u2019il s\u2019agit d\u2019un groupe terroriste, et il doit donc figurer sur la liste.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659253\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous venons de f\u00eater le Nawroz, le Nouvel An. Quel que soit le nom qu\u2019on lui donne et les traditions qui y sont rattach\u00e9es, les habitants des pays d\u2019Asie centrale c\u00e9l\u00e8brent ce jour depuis des milliers d\u2019ann\u00e9es, et j\u2019esp\u00e8re qu\u2019ils le passeront en famille. Je leur souhaite une bonne et heureuse ann\u00e9e, m\u00eame si, pour le peuple iranien, l\u2019ann\u00e9e a bien mal commenc\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659254\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les manifestations se poursuivent. L\u2019oppression continue. Les ex\u00e9cutions sommaires par les Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique se poursuivent. Tout cela continue, et ils continuent aussi d\u2019exporter cette violence dans d\u2019autres pays. Leurs agents voyagent incognito, car ils ne se pointent pas \u00e0 l\u2019a\u00e9roport Pearson \u00e0 Toronto en d\u00e9clarant \u00e0 l\u2019agent des douanes qu\u2019ils travaillent pour les Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique. Ils ont des sympathisants, aussi bien dans notre pays qu\u2019aux \u00c9tats\u2011Unis, qui s\u2019emploient \u00e0 intimider des Canadiens d\u2019origine iranienne, perse ou kurde.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7659255\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je me r\u00e9jouis que nous puissions discuter de tout cela aujourd\u2019hui, \u00e9tant donn\u00e9 ce qui se passe depuis le mois de septembre, car nous ne cessons de demander au gouvernement d\u2019inscrire le Corps des Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique, le <em>Sepah</em>, sur la liste des groupes terroristes. Le gouvernement doit, comme le dit le proverbe yiddish, se comporter en homme de bien, c'est-\u00e0-dire qu'il doit inscrire imm\u00e9diatement ce groupe sur la liste des entit\u00e9s terroristes. S\u2019il est n\u00e9cessaire de modifier nos lois pour ce faire, le gouvernement en a eu largement le temps depuis septembre. Il a eu largement le temps de modifier nos lois pour que les conscrits du Corps des Gardiens de la r\u00e9volution islamique, ces pauvres gens qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9quisitionn\u00e9s par le groupe terroriste, ne soient pas vis\u00e9s par l\u2019inscription du groupe sur la liste.</p>"
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