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{
"time": "2023-03-27 17:00:00",
"attribution": {
"en": "Mr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe",
"fr": "M. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe"
},
"content": {
"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7655053\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague for her excellent question. I think this bill was supposed to strike a balance, which is no easy task when it comes to any discussion on terrorist financing. I understand how difficult it can be for legislators to draft a document that strikes this balance, and I think it has been achieved to some extent. Where we do see problems now has more to do with how this balance is being implemented. The government wants to move forward with authorizations and lots of red tape, when there are urgent needs right now. I do not think this is the best approach.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7655054\" data-originallang=\"fr\">There is another problem with that balance, specifically that the burden of proof falls on the NGOs. It is the NGOs that have to prove that they are not malicious and they are not financing any terrorists. Take Doctors Without Borders for example. We all know that that organization's goal is to help people directly on the ground, not finance terrorists. Doctors Without Borders was one of the first organizations to denounce the wording of this bill.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7655055\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I think we need to speak with representatives from Doctors Without Borders, Amnesty International and other NGOs that are working on the ground so we can reach an agreement as parliamentarians to come up with quick and effective solutions.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7655053\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, je remercie ma coll\u00e8gue de cette excellente question. Je pense que le but de ce projet de loi \u00e9tait justement de trouver un \u00e9quilibre. Ce n'est pas facile de trouver un \u00e9quilibre quand vient le temps de parler de financement du terrorisme. Je comprends que cela pouvait \u00eatre difficile pour le l\u00e9gislateur d'\u00e9crire un texte qui trouve cet \u00e9quilibre et je pense qu'un certain \u00e9quilibre a \u00e9t\u00e9 trouv\u00e9. Maintenant, c'est dans la fa\u00e7on de mettre cet \u00e9quilibre en place que nous pensons qu'il y a des probl\u00e8mes. On veut y aller avec des autorisations et beaucoup de bureaucratie, alors qu'il y a des besoins urgents pr\u00e9sentement. Je ne pense pas que c'est la meilleure fa\u00e7on de faire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7655054\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Par ailleurs, il y a un autre probl\u00e8me avec l'\u00e9quilibre. C'est que le fardeau de la preuve tombe sur les ONG. Ce sont les ONG qui doivent d\u00e9montrer qu'elles ne sont pas m\u00e9chantes et qu'elles ne veulent pas financer des terroristes. Prenons l'exemple de M\u00e9decins sans fronti\u00e8res; on sait pertinemment que le but de cette organisation n'est pas de financer des terroristes, c'est d'aider des gens directement sur le terrain. M\u00e9decins sans fronti\u00e8res a \u00e9t\u00e9 l'une des premi\u00e8res organisations \u00e0 d\u00e9noncer le libell\u00e9 de ce projet de loi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7655055\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Je pense qu'on doit parler avec des repr\u00e9sentants de M\u00e9decins sans fronti\u00e8res, Amnistie internationale ou d'autres ONG qui font le travail sur le terrain et qu'on s'entende entre parlementaires pour arriver \u00e0 des solutions rapides et efficaces.</p>"
},
"url": "/debates/2023/3/27/alexis-brunelle-duceppe-8/",
"politician_url": "/politicians/alexis-brunelle-duceppe/",
"politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4501/",
"procedural": false,
"source_id": "12118070",
"h1": {
"en": "Government Orders",
"fr": "Ordres \u00e9manant du gouvernement"
},
"h2": {
"en": "Criminal Code",
"fr": "Le Code criminel"
},
"document_url": "/debates/2023/3/27/",
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}