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{
    "time": "2022-06-20 18:00:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Ms. Heather McPherson (Edmonton Strathcona, NDP)",
        "fr": "Mme Heather McPherson (Edmonton Strathcona, NPD)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7257151\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madam Speaker, I look at the House, and I look at all of those who are supporting the legislation and know how important it is that we bring forward this long overdue legislation. Then, I see the Conservative Party not supporting it, and I question that. I wonder why that is the case.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257152\" data-originallang=\"en\">Part of me thinks that it is because right now they are without a leader and they are, in fact, blocking everything that happens in the House. They have been filibustering our foreign affairs committee for over a month, and they are blocking us from being able to do the jobs we want to do in this place. Maybe that is part of it, but then I think about when the Conservatives were coming to the committee when we were looking at Bill <a data-HoCid=\"10926636\" href=\"/bills/43-2/C-10/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-10</a>, and I will make a bit of a joke that I made then.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257153\" data-originallang=\"en\">The member for <a data-HoCid=\"278459\" href=\"/politicians/rachael-harder/\" title=\"Rachael Thomas\">Lethbridge</a> yelled \u201cfreedom\u201d so many times that I swear she seemed a bit like she was imitating <em>Braveheart</em>, except I would say in <em>Braveheart</em> they only yelled it once, so perhaps she could be a little more succinct. Also, when we were in committee, we saw a literal turning door of the \u201cfront-benchers\u201d of the Conservative Party coming to our committee wanting to talk about Bill <a data-HoCid=\"10926636\" href=\"/bills/43-2/C-10/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-10</a>. This would be good and important, if we had ever seen any of those members come to our committee to talk about COVID supports for artists.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257154\" data-originallang=\"en\">If I had ever seen the member for <a data-HoCid=\"278241\" href=\"/politicians/pierre-poilievre/\" title=\"Pierre Poilievre\">Carleton</a> come to my committee to talk to our group about how we need to support artists in his community, that would be one thing. If I had ever seen the member for <a data-HoCid=\"278248\" href=\"/politicians/michelle-rempel/\" title=\"Michelle Rempel\">Calgary Nose Hill</a> come to the heritage committee to talk about truth and reconciliation and the acknowledgement of September 30 as the Day for Truth and Reconciliation, that would be another thing. We never saw any of that. We just saw them then, so I am asking myself why this is the case.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257155\" data-originallang=\"en\">I actually talked to one of my Conservative colleagues who said that every time they sent out an email on Bill <a data-HoCid=\"11525611\" href=\"/bills/44-1/C-10/\" title=\"An Act respecting certain measures related to COVID-19\">C-10</a>, they raised about $2,000. I have to think that this looks a lot like a fundraising campaign. This does not look a lot like good policy to me. This looks a lot like there is an option there to make some money, and of course that is hard for me to understand and hard for me to accept, because Edmonton Strathcona is the heart of the artistic community, as well.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257156\" data-originallang=\"en\"> We have a strong francophone community, but we also have an incredible artistic community, so I do not want members of that community to suffer and I do not want members of that community to not have the opportunity to benefit from taxes being raised or from funds going into the cultural community. For example, when Bill <a data-HoCid=\"11528728\" href=\"/bills/44-1/C-11/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-11</a> is put in place, over a billion dollars will go back into our cultural community in Canada. That is not taxes. I want to make it really clear that this is something the web giants would pay. It is not something the government would pay. Multinational corporations would be paying into our artistic sector.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257157\" data-originallang=\"en\">What I think about is how much money Netflix has, how much money YouTube has and how much money all of these multinational corporations make, and why I would not want them to pay their fair share to support organizations like the Blues Festival in Edmonton Strathcona, the Edmonton Folk Music Festival, the Edmonton Fringe Theatre Festival, the Edmonton Heritage Festival, the SkirtsAfire Festival, theatre groups like the Alberta Musical Theatre Company, Concrete Theatre, where my good friend Mieko Ouchi used to work, Firefly Theatre and Circus, Fringe Theatre and Grindstone Comedy Theatre. I can tell members they had the most incredible Pride event there just a couple of weeks ago, and anyone in Edmonton Strathcona during Pride needs to go the Grindstone.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257158\" data-originallang=\"en\">We have the Northern Light Theatre, we have Theatre Yes, we have Blues on Whyte, the Northern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium, the Metro Cinema and the Myer Horowitz Theatre. Outside of my riding is the Starlite Room, but I still visit it quite regularly. The Starlite Room had one of my very favourite concerts: I got to listen to Propaghandi, a Canadian band, play there. Just a couple of weeks ago on my 50th birthday, I got to see Corb Lund sing, and I will tell members he is someone they should not miss. They should certainly be trying to support the Timms Centre, the Old Strathcona Performing Arts Centre, Varscona Theatre, Walterdale Theatre and the Yardbird Suite.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257159\" data-originallang=\"en\">Francophone organizations in my community include the Chorale Chantamis, the Chorale Saint-Jean and the Flying Cano\u00eb Volant, where, as I have probably told everyone in the House, one can race a canoe down a ski hill, dressed up as a beaver. Also, there is L'Association Franco-Albertaine de L'UniTh\u00e9\u00e2tre, the F\u00eate-franco-albertaine and the FrancoMusik Alberta Association. There are alternative media that this would support, including the CJSR radio network of the University of Alberta, The Gateway and Le Franco.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257160\" data-originallang=\"en\">All of these organizations are really important and integral to my community, and every one of these organizations could benefit from this fund. They could benefit from the money that would come in from multinational corporations.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257161\" data-originallang=\"en\">I am never going to stand in this place as the member of Parliament for Edmonton Strathcona to fight for the rights of big corporations over the rights of artists, over the rights of community groups and over the rights of the small organizations that make Edmonton Strathcona so incredibly special.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7257151\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, je regarde la Chambre des communes et tous ceux qui appuient le projet de loi, et je me rends compte \u00e0 quel point il \u00e9tait important de pr\u00e9senter cette mesure l\u00e9gislative qui se faisait attendre depuis longtemps. Puis, je remarque que le Parti conservateur ne l'appuie pas, et je me demande pourquoi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257152\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je crois, en partie, que c'est parce que ses d\u00e9put\u00e9s sont sans chef actuellement et qu'ils bloquent tout ce qui se produit \u00e0 la Chambre. Ils font de l'obstruction syst\u00e9matique au comit\u00e9 des affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res depuis plus d'un mois et ils nous emp\u00eachent de faire le travail que nous voulons faire ici. Cela explique peut\u2011\u00eatre en partie leur opposition au projet de loi. Cependant, je pense \u00e0 ce que les conservateurs faisaient quand ils venaient au comit\u00e9 pendant notre \u00e9tude du projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"10926636\" href=\"/bills/43-2/C-10/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts\">C\u201110</a>, et je vais raconter une blague que j'ai racont\u00e9e \u00e0 l'\u00e9poque. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257153\" data-originallang=\"en\">La d\u00e9put\u00e9e de <a data-HoCid=\"278459\" href=\"/politicians/rachael-harder/\" title=\"Rachael Thomas\">Lethbridge</a> a cri\u00e9 \u00ab libert\u00e9 \u00bb si souvent que j'ai eu l'impression qu'elle voulait imiter la sc\u00e8ne de <em>C\u0153ur vaillant</em>, sauf qu'il me semble que dans le film, ce mot n'est cri\u00e9 qu'une seule fois. Je l'encouragerais donc \u00e0 adopter un style plus concis. Je me souviens aussi qu'alors que nous \u00e9tions en pleine r\u00e9union de comit\u00e9, nous avons vu les d\u00e9put\u00e9s conservateurs des premi\u00e8res banquettes d\u00e9barquer en masse parce qu'ils voulaient parler du projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"10926636\" href=\"/bills/43-2/C-10/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-10</a>. Ce serait une bonne chose, si seulement nous les avions vus dans notre comit\u00e9 pour parler des mesures de soutien li\u00e9es \u00e0 la COVID pour nos artistes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257154\" data-originallang=\"en\">Si seulement le d\u00e9put\u00e9 de <a data-HoCid=\"278241\" href=\"/politicians/pierre-poilievre/\" title=\"Pierre Poilievre\">Carleton</a> \u00e9tait venu dans ce comit\u00e9 pour proposer des fa\u00e7ons de soutenir les artistes dans sa circonscription, cela aurait \u00e9t\u00e9 valable. Si seulement la d\u00e9put\u00e9e de <a data-HoCid=\"278248\" href=\"/politicians/michelle-rempel/\" title=\"Michelle Rempel\">Calgary Nose Hill</a> \u00e9tait venue au comit\u00e9 du patrimoine pour parler de v\u00e9rit\u00e9 et de r\u00e9conciliation, et du 30 septembre en tant que Journ\u00e9e de la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 et de la r\u00e9conciliation, nous verrions les choses autrement. Or, ils ne sont jamais venus pour parler de ces sujets. Nous ne les avons vus que cette fois-l\u00e0, et je me demande bien pourquoi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257155\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'ai parl\u00e9 \u00e0 un de mes coll\u00e8gues conservateurs qui m'a dit que son parti recueillait environ 2 000 $ chaque fois qu'il envoyait un courriel sur le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"11525611\" href=\"/bills/44-1/C-10/\" title=\"An Act respecting certain measures related to COVID-19\">C\u201110</a>. Je dois conclure que la position du parti ressemble beaucoup \u00e0 une campagne de collecte de fonds. Je ne crois cependant pas que ce soit une bonne politique. On dirait davantage un moyen de faire de l'argent et, bien s\u00fbr, j'ai de la difficult\u00e9 \u00e0 comprendre cela et \u00e0 l'accepter, car Edmonton Strathcona est aussi le c\u0153ur de la communaut\u00e9 artistique.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257156\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous avons une forte communaut\u00e9 francophone, mais nous avons aussi une communaut\u00e9 artistique incroyable. Je ne veux donc pas que les membres de cette communaut\u00e9 souffrent et qu'ils n'aient pas l'occasion de profiter de l'augmentation des imp\u00f4ts ou du versement de fonds \u00e0 la communaut\u00e9 culturelle. Par exemple, lorsque le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"11528728\" href=\"/bills/44-1/C-11/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts\">C\u201111</a> entrera en vigueur, plus de 1 milliard de dollars sera vers\u00e9 \u00e0 la communaut\u00e9 culturelle du Canada. Il ne s'agit pas de l'argent des contribuables. Je veux qu'il soit tr\u00e8s clair que ce sont les g\u00e9ants du Web qui paieront la facture. Ce n'est pas le gouvernement qui paiera. Ce sont les multinationales qui contribueront \u00e0 notre secteur artistique.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257157\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ce \u00e0 quoi je pense, c'est \u00e0 l'argent que poss\u00e8de Netflix, \u00e0 l'argent que poss\u00e8de YouTube et \u00e0 l'argent que font toutes ces multinationales. Pourquoi ne voudrais-je pas qu'elles paient leur juste part pour soutenir des organisations comme le Blues Festival d'Edmonton Strathcona, l'Edmonton Folk Music Festival, l'Edmonton Fringe Theatre Festival, l'Edmonton Heritage Festival, le SkirtsAfire Festival, des troupes de th\u00e9\u00e2tre comme l'Alberta Musical Theatre Company, le Concrete Theatre, o\u00f9 travaillait ma bonne amie Mieko Ouchi, le Firefly Theatre and Circus, le Fringe Theatre et le Grindstone Comedy Theatre? Je peux dire aux d\u00e9put\u00e9s que le Grindstone a organis\u00e9 le plus incroyable \u00e9v\u00e9nement de la Fiert\u00e9 il y a tout juste deux semaines et que quiconque se trouve \u00e0 Edmonton Strathcona pendant la Fiert\u00e9 doit aller \u00e0 cet endroit.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257158\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous avons le Northern Light Theatre, nous avons le Theatre Yes, nous avons Blues on Whyte, le Northern Alberta Jubilee Auditorium, le Metro Cinema et le Myer Horowitz Theatre. \u00c0 l'ext\u00e9rieur de ma circonscription se trouve le Starlite Room, o\u00f9 je me rends encore assez r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement. Le Starlite Room a accueilli l'un de mes concerts pr\u00e9f\u00e9r\u00e9s: j'ai pu \u00e9couter Propaghandi, un groupe canadien, y jouer. Il y a quelques semaines, \u00e0 l'occasion de mon 50<sup>e</sup> anniversaire, j'ai pu voir Corb Lund chanter, et je dirai aux d\u00e9put\u00e9s qu'il s'agit d'un artiste \u00e0 ne pas manquer. Ils devraient absolument essayer de soutenir le Timms Centre, l'Old Strathcona Performing Arts Centre, le Varscona Theatre, le Walterdale Theatre et la Yardbird Suite. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257159\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les organisations francophones de ma collectivit\u00e9 comprennent la chorale Chantamis, la Chorale Saint-Jean et le Flying Cano\u00eb Volant, o\u00f9, comme je l'ai probablement dit \u00e0 tous les d\u00e9put\u00e9s, on peut faire une course de cano\u00eb en descendant une pente de ski, habill\u00e9 en castor. De plus, il y a L'Association Franco-Albertaine de L'UniTh\u00e9\u00e2tre, la F\u00eate franco-albertaine et l'Association FrancoMusik Alberta. Certains m\u00e9dias alternatifs seraient aussi soutenus, comme le r\u00e9seau radiophonique CJSR \u00e0 l'Universit\u00e9 de l'Alberta, The Gateway et Le Franco.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257160\" data-originallang=\"en\">Toutes ces organisations sont vraiment importantes et font partie int\u00e9grante de la communaut\u00e9, et chacune d'elles pourrait profiter de ce fonds. Elles pourraient profiter de l'argent recueilli aupr\u00e8s des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s multinationales.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7257161\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je ne prendrai jamais la parole \u00e0 la Chambre en tant que d\u00e9put\u00e9e d'Edmonton Strathcona pour d\u00e9fendre les droits des grandes soci\u00e9t\u00e9s plut\u00f4t que ceux des artistes, des groupes communautaires et des petites organisations qui rendent ma circonscription si incroyablement extraordinaire.</p>"
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