Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2022-04-25 19:10:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Ms. Elizabeth May (Saanich\u2014Gulf Islands, GP)",
        "fr": "Mme Elizabeth May (Saanich\u2014Gulf Islands, PV)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7103452\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Speaker, it is an honour to rise in this place to pursue, in Adjournment Proceedings, a question that I originally asked not that long ago, actually, on March 24. My question related to something we have debated in the House quite a lot, mostly on supply day motions of opposition parties. It is the notion that somehow Canada can step up and do more for Ukraine by producing more fossil fuels and exporting them. There are many fallacies in that proposition.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7103453\" data-originallang=\"en\">At the time, I directed my question to anyone on the government benches, but it was the hon. <a data-HoCid=\"279287\" href=\"/politicians/julie-dabrusin/\" title=\"Julie Dabrusin\">Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Natural Resources</a> who responded. I said the notion that we needed more pipelines was quite misguided and there was not any evidence for it, and when I posed my question, I noted that the International Energy Agency, which is an unquestioned expert on supply, price and sustainability of energy supplies, put forward a recommendation to reduce the use of oil daily by 2.7 million barrels. That 2.7 million barrels of oil a day could reduce the demand within the European Union. There are other quite simple things too. I mentioned some of them in the 10-point plan and asked if Canada would consider joining the European Union in implementing this 10-point plan.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7103454\" data-originallang=\"en\">The hon. <a data-HoCid=\"279287\" href=\"/politicians/julie-dabrusin/\" title=\"Julie Dabrusin\">parliamentary secretary</a>, who happens to be the member for Toronto\u2014Danforth, as there are a couple of parliamentary secretaries to the <a data-HoCid=\"278910\" href=\"/politicians/steven-guilbeault/\" title=\"Steven Guilbeault\">Minister of Environment</a>, was very positive in her response and said they are considering it, but did not actually suggest what we might do. That is why I wanted to pursue this in Adjournment Proceedings.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7103455\" data-originallang=\"en\">The world has paid a lot of attention to many things that President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said since his country has been so cruelly and viciously attacked by Russia, but it has not paid a lot of attention to the things that President Zelenskyy has said about the climate crisis and his commitment to climate action. In other words, whenever we hear someone in Canada say that we need more pipelines, we need to produce more oil, we need to produce more gas and this is how we help Ukraine, that is not something the President of Ukraine, the extraordinarily courageous leader Volodymyr Zelenskyy, has said. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7103456\" data-originallang=\"en\">In fact, on March 29, after the war had been raging for a month at that point and just as he came to us on Zoom and addressed this Parliament, President Zelenskyy addressed the Parliament of Denmark. These are statements that I think would be worth having on the record for people to consider in the Canadian Parliament. President Zelenskyy, in addressing the Danish Parliament, said, \u201cRussian aggression against Ukraine and against everything on which life in Europe is built is an argument for accelerating the green transformation on the continent.\u201d He went on to say, \u201clong before this war, it was obvious that humanity should reduce the use of fossil fuels. The era of coal and oil has caused very serious damage to...our planet as a whole. Green technologies, green energy have become a logical and fair response to this challenge.\u201d</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7103457\" data-originallang=\"en\">If the European Union understands what needs to be done, the International Energy Agency understands what needs to be done, the Government of Ukraine understands what needs to be done and the Government of Germany understands, why is it that Canada is failing to understand that in the context of a Russian invasion of Ukraine, the best way we can support Ukraine and President Zelenskyy is to go off fossil fuels as quickly as possible? It would mean no more Russian oil and no more oil.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7103452\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, c'est un honneur d'intervenir \u00e0 la Chambre pendant le d\u00e9bat d'ajournement pour poser une question que j'ai pos\u00e9e il n'y a pas si longtemps en fait, soit le 24 mars dernier. Elle portait sur un sujet dont il a souvent \u00e9t\u00e9 question \u00e0 la Chambre, surtout dans le cadre de motions de l'opposition. Elle porte sur l'id\u00e9e que le Canada peut en faire plus pour l'Ukraine en produisant et en exportant davantage de combustibles fossiles. Il y a plusieurs fausset\u00e9s dans cette proposition.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7103453\" data-originallang=\"en\">En mars, ma question s'adressait aux banquettes minist\u00e9rielles en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral. C'est la <a data-HoCid=\"279287\" href=\"/politicians/julie-dabrusin/\" title=\"Julie Dabrusin\">secr\u00e9taire parlementaire du ministre des Ressources naturelles</a> qui avait r\u00e9pondu. J'avais dit que l'id\u00e9e selon laquelle il nous fallait davantage de pipelines \u00e9tait malavis\u00e9e et que rien ne l'\u00e9tayait. Quand j'ai pos\u00e9 ma question, j'ai fait remarquer que l'Agence internationale de l'\u00e9nergie, qui est manifestement experte en mati\u00e8re d'approvisionnement, de prix et de durabilit\u00e9 des ressources \u00e9nerg\u00e9tiques, avait recommand\u00e9 qu'on r\u00e9duise la consommation de p\u00e9trole de 2,7 millions de barils par jour. Ces 2,7 millions de barils par jour permettraient de r\u00e9duire la demande au sein de l'Union europ\u00e9enne. Il existe aussi d'autres solutions tr\u00e8s simples. J'en ai mentionn\u00e9 certaines, qui se trouvent dans le plan en 10 \u00e9tapes, et demand\u00e9 si le Canada envisageait de se joindre \u00e0 l'Union europ\u00e9enne afin de mettre en \u0153uvre ce plan en 10 \u00e9tapes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7103454\" data-originallang=\"en\">La <a data-HoCid=\"279287\" href=\"/politicians/julie-dabrusin/\" title=\"Julie Dabrusin\">secr\u00e9taire parlementaire</a>, celle qui est aussi d\u00e9put\u00e9e de Toronto\u2014Danforth, car il y a deux secr\u00e9taires parlementaires du <a data-HoCid=\"278910\" href=\"/politicians/steven-guilbeault/\" title=\"Steven Guilbeault\">ministre de l'Environnement</a>, a r\u00e9agi de fa\u00e7on tr\u00e8s positive et a dit qu'ils y pensaient, mais sans pr\u00e9ciser ce que nous pourrions faire. Voil\u00e0 pourquoi je souhaitais revenir sur cette question pendant le d\u00e9bat d'ajournement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7103455\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le monde entier porte beaucoup d'attention aux nombreux propos qu'a tenus le pr\u00e9sident Volodymyr Zelensky depuis le d\u00e9but de l'attaque cruelle et vicieuse que m\u00e8ne la Russie contre son pays. Par contre, il ne porte pas vraiment attention \u00e0 ce que dit le pr\u00e9sident \u00e0 propos de la crise climatique et de son engagement envers la lutte aux changements climatiques. Autrement dit, quand quelqu'un dit, au Canada, qu'il nous faut plus de pipelines et qu'il faut produire plus de p\u00e9trole et plus de gaz pour aider l'Ukraine, il faut savoir que ce n'est pas ce que le pr\u00e9sident ukrainien Volodymyr Zelensky, ce leader au courage extraordinaire, dit. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7103456\" data-originallang=\"en\">En fait, le 29 mars, alors que la guerre faisait rage depuis un mois, tout juste apr\u00e8s qu'il s'est adress\u00e9 \u00e0 notre Parlement sur Zoom, le pr\u00e9sident Zelensky s'est aussi adress\u00e9 au Parlement du Danemark. Il a fait des d\u00e9clarations qui, \u00e0 mon avis, m\u00e9ritent d'\u00eatre soulign\u00e9es afin d'\u00eatre examin\u00e9es par le Parlement canadien. Quand il s'est adress\u00e9 au Parlement danois, le pr\u00e9sident Zelensky a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 ceci: \u00ab L'agression de la Russie contre l'Ukraine et contre tous les fondements de la vie en Europe est un argument en faveur de l'acc\u00e9l\u00e9ration de l'\u00e9cologisation sur le continent. \u00bb Il a par la suite ajout\u00e9: \u00ab [...] bien avant cette guerre, il \u00e9tait \u00e9vident que l'humanit\u00e9 devait r\u00e9duire l'utilisation des combustibles fossiles. L'\u00e8re du charbon et du p\u00e9trole a caus\u00e9 des dommages consid\u00e9rables \u00e0 [...] notre plan\u00e8te toute enti\u00e8re. Les technologies vertes et l'\u00e9nergie verte constituent maintenant la r\u00e9ponse logique et \u00e9quitable \u00e0 ce d\u00e9fi. \u00bb</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7103457\" data-originallang=\"en\">Si l'Union europ\u00e9enne comprend ce qu'il faut faire, si l'Agence internationale de l'\u00e9nergie comprend ce qu'il faut faire, si le gouvernement de l'Ukraine comprend ce qu'il faut faire, tout comme le gouvernement de l'Allemagne, pourquoi le gouvernement du Canada ne parvient-il pas \u00e0 comprendre que, dans le contexte de l'invasion de l'Ukraine par la Russie, la meilleure mani\u00e8re de soutenir l'Ukraine et le pr\u00e9sident Zelensky est de cesser d'utiliser les combustibles fossiles le plus rapidement possible? Autrement dit, fini le p\u00e9trole russe, fini le p\u00e9trole tout court.</p>"
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