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{
    "time": "2022-10-18 17:10:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Mark Gerretsen",
        "fr": "M. Mark Gerretsen"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"7348053\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madam Speaker, the Conservatives are trying to set this narrative that we are trying to propose something that was never asked for. My counter-argument to that earlier was that I do not understand why we need to wait to have that request made of us. Why is this legislature not mature enough and capable enough to set policy on its own without requiring that?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7348054\" data-originallang=\"en\">The member compared it to agriculture. The delivery of health care might be the responsibility of the provinces, but certainly the cost of health care is not solely on the provinces. The cost of health care is through a formula that has been prescribed. In my opinion, that is what is so important when talking about this. Yes, there is shared jurisdiction in terms of paying for it. Delivery might be more on the provincial side, but that does not mean the federal government cannot initiate policy that will help out individuals through CRA, as this would do.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"7348053\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, les conservateurs essaient de r\u00e9pandre l'id\u00e9e que nous proposons une mesure n'ayant jamais \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9clam\u00e9e par personne. Je leur ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 r\u00e9pliqu\u00e9 que je ne comprends pas pourquoi nous devrions attendre que la mesure nous soit demand\u00e9e. Notre assembl\u00e9e n'est-elle pas compos\u00e9e de l\u00e9gislateurs ayant la maturit\u00e9 et les capacit\u00e9s n\u00e9cessaires pour adopter des politiques de leur propre chef?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"7348054\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Le d\u00e9put\u00e9 a fait une comparaison avec l'agriculture. Il est vrai que la prestation des services de sant\u00e9 rel\u00e8ve des provinces, mais le co\u00fbt de ces services n'est pas enti\u00e8rement assum\u00e9 par les provinces. Une formule de partage des co\u00fbts a \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9tablie, et c'est une question tr\u00e8s importante dans le d\u00e9bat actuel. Il existe bel et bien un partage des comp\u00e9tences quand il s'agit du financement. Ce sont plut\u00f4t les provinces qui doivent s'occuper de fournir les services, mais cela ne signifie pas que le gouvernement f\u00e9d\u00e9ral n'a pas le droit d'adopter des politiques o\u00f9 les gens re\u00e7oivent de l'aide par l'entremise de l'ARC, comme le pr\u00e9voit le projet de loi \u00e0 l'\u00e9tude.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2022/10/18/mark-gerretsen-4/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/mark-gerretsen/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4311/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "11859025",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Ordres \u00e9manant du gouvernement"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Government Business No. 20\u2014Proceedings on Bill C-31",
        "fr": "L'affaire \u00e9manant du gouvernement no 20 \u2014 Les d\u00e9lib\u00e9rations sur le projet de loi C-31"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2022/10/18/",
    "related": {
        "document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2022%2F10%2F18%2F"
    }
}