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{
"time": "2019-02-26 19:40:00",
"attribution": {
"en": "Mr. Daniel Blaikie (Elmwood\u2014Transcona, NDP)",
"fr": "M. Daniel Blaikie (Elmwood\u2014Transcona, NPD)"
},
"content": {
"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5792272\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure to rise to follow-up on issues I raised earlier in question period. In particular, I would like to raise an issue that has to do with the Phoenix payroll system.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5792273\" data-originallang=\"en\">Simply put, thousands of civilian members of the RCMP have been told that the government is keen to transition them over to the Phoenix payroll system. Currently, they are paid on the payroll system of the RCMP, which has not had the problems that Phoenix has had. Those problems are legion. We know of cases in Elmwood\u2014Transcona of federal public servants who have had their homes put in jeopardy and serious strain put on their families. Civilian members of the RCMP do not want to be put in that same boat and, I think quite reasonably, just want to wait until Phoenix is actually fixed before they are transitioned over. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5792274\" data-originallang=\"en\">At one time in the life of this Parliament, the former president of the Treasury Board made a commitment that civilian members of the RCMP would not be transitioned over to the Phoenix payroll system until it was fixed. In fact, a memo went out that said that initiative was indefinitely suspended. Unfortunately, sometime after that, another memo went out saying that it had simply been postponed and that in the spring of 2020, civilian members of the RCMP would be transitioned over.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5792275\" data-originallang=\"en\">This week, we heard that an internal government memo estimated that it may take up to 10 years to fix the Phoenix payroll system, and it will certainly take four or five years. For those who are not great at math, it means that the spring of 2020 will come long before the government itself estimates that Phoenix will be fixed. It is quite reasonable that civilian members of the RCMP want to wait until that is over. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5792276\" data-originallang=\"en\">Therefore, I am looking for some reassurance from the government today that it will wait until it has Phoenix right before it puts the pay of thousands of civilian members of the RCMP, who do great work on behalf of and for Canadians, in jeopardy. That is what I am here to ask. Would the government kindly wait until Phoenix is fixed to make this transition so they are not subjected to undue strain because of the payroll system?</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5792272\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, c'est avec plaisir que je prends la parole au sujet de questions que j'ai soulev\u00e9es plus t\u00f4t au cours de la p\u00e9riode des questions. Plus particuli\u00e8rement, j'aimerais soulever une question concernant le syst\u00e8me de paie Ph\u00e9nix.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5792273\" data-originallang=\"en\">En termes simples, des milliers de membres civils de la GRC se sont fait dire que le gouvernement est press\u00e9 de les faire passer au syst\u00e8me de paie Ph\u00e9nix. \u00c0 l'heure actuelle, ils sont pay\u00e9s avec le syst\u00e8me de paie de la GRC, qui n'a pas engendr\u00e9 les probl\u00e8mes qu'on a connus avec Ph\u00e9nix, et ces probl\u00e8mes sont l\u00e9gion. Nous sommes au courant de cas de fonctionnaires dans Elmwood-Transcona qui ont failli perdre leur maison et dont la famille a \u00e9t\u00e9 durement \u00e9prouv\u00e9e. Les membres civils de la GRC ne veulent pas se retrouver dans la m\u00eame gal\u00e8re; ils veulent, avec raison, je pense, attendre que les probl\u00e8mes li\u00e9s \u00e0 Ph\u00e9nix soient r\u00e9gl\u00e9s avant que la transition ait lieu.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5792274\" data-originallang=\"en\">\u00c0 un moment durant la pr\u00e9sente l\u00e9gislature, l'ancien pr\u00e9sident du Conseil du Tr\u00e9sor a promis qu'on ne ferait pas la transition vers le syst\u00e8me de paie Ph\u00e9nix pour les membres civils de la GRC tant qu'on n'aurait pas apport\u00e9 les correctifs n\u00e9cessaires. Une note de service disant que l'initiative \u00e9tait suspendue ind\u00e9finiment avait m\u00eame \u00e9t\u00e9 diffus\u00e9e. Malheureusement, peu de temps apr\u00e8s, une autre note indiquait que la transition vers Ph\u00e9nix avait simplement \u00e9t\u00e9 report\u00e9e et qu'elle aurait lieu au printemps 2020 pour les membres civils de la GRC.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5792275\" data-originallang=\"en\">Cette semaine, nous avons entendu parler d'une note interne du gouvernement. On y apprend que le processus pour r\u00e9gler les probl\u00e8mes du syst\u00e8me de paie Ph\u00e9nix prendra assur\u00e9ment de quatre \u00e0 cinq ans et qu'il pourrait s'\u00e9tirer sur 10 ans. Pour ceux qui ne sont pas tr\u00e8s dou\u00e9s en math\u00e9matiques, on peut dire que le printemps 2020 arrivera bien avant que le gouvernement parvienne \u00e0 corriger le syst\u00e8me Ph\u00e9nix, et ce, selon ses propres estimations. Il est tout \u00e0 fait raisonnable que les employ\u00e9s civils de la GRC pr\u00e9f\u00e8rent attendre que tout soit r\u00e9gl\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5792276\" data-originallang=\"en\">Par cons\u00e9quent, je cherche aujourd'hui \u00e0 obtenir une certaine garantie de la part du gouvernement. Je lui demande de confirmer qu'il attendra que le syst\u00e8me Ph\u00e9nix soit corrig\u00e9 pour \u00e9viter de mettre en p\u00e9ril la paie de milliers d'employ\u00e9s civils de la GRC, qui font un excellent travail au nom des Canadiens et dans leur int\u00e9r\u00eat. C'est ce que je demande aujourd'hui. Le gouvernement veut-il bien attendre que le syst\u00e8me de paie Ph\u00e9nix soit corrig\u00e9 avant d'effectuer la transition afin de prot\u00e9ger ces employ\u00e9s d'un stress \u00e9vitable?</p>"
},
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"h1": {
"en": "Adjournment Proceedings",
"fr": "Motion D'Ajournement"
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"h2": {
"en": "Public Services and Procurement",
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