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{
    "time": "2019-02-20 16:20:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Alupa Clarke (Beauport\u2014Limoilou, CPC)",
        "fr": "M. Alupa Clarke (Beauport\u2014Limoilou, PCC)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5785352\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Speaker, I want to point out how disappointed I am. I could hardly wait to speak about this bill today, mainly for personal reasons. I have an Inuit first name, Alupa, which means \u201cstrong man\u201d. My entire family is very aware of and attuned to indigenous matters. My wife is an anthropologist who has worked with the Inuit for many years, and my father is a forensic historian, who has defended indigenous people in many cases by locating treaties or doing research for them.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785353\" data-originallang=\"fr\">The minister said that this is an extremely important bill that will protect and promote indigenous languages, some of which are dying out. That much is true. The Liberals have also said that no relationship is more important than the relationship with indigenous peoples. They have said it over and over, but this bill was introduced only a few months before the election, at the end of their mandate and four years after they were elected. Yes, it is urgent that we take action, but it is not true that we will all be able to state our position and discuss it in committee. As there are only three spots for opposition members, I do not think I will have the opportunity to debate the bill or to suggest amendments in committee.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785354\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Although we support this bill on the face of it, it deals with some very serious issues. There is a very clear reason why we support this bill, and that appears in the last paragraph of the preamble to the Official Languages Act, which states that the government recognizes the importance of preserving and enhancing the use of languages other than English and French while strengthening the status and use of the official languages.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785355\" data-originallang=\"fr\">This bill is therefore perfectly aligned with Canada's political doctrine. However, there are some very important issues that need clarification, and I will talk about them now. Why is the Official Languages Act quasi-constitutional? That is because it is linked to sections 16 to 23 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The minister told us that Bill <a data-HoCid=\"10293463\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-91/\" title=\"An Act respecting Indigenous languages\">C-91, an act respecting indigenous languages</a>, is linked to section 35 of the Constitution. Does that mean that this bill will become quasi-constitutional legislation like the Official Languages Act? If so, we will have to discuss this for weeks because it will have a major impact on our society. It will be a very positive impact, to be sure, but when we say that the bill could be quasi-constitutional we need to know where that takes us.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785356\" data-originallang=\"fr\">The bill also states that there would be a commissioner of indigenous languages. Will this commissioner have duties similar to those of the Commissioner of Official Languages? Will they have a joint office?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785357\" data-originallang=\"fr\">The bill also talks about funding to protect, preserve and promote indigenous languages. Will that involve developing action plans as we do for official languages? Will this cost billions of dollars over five years every five years, as is the case with the action plan for official languages? Will the department also receive $1 billion in recurring funding every five years?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785358\" data-originallang=\"fr\">There are all kinds of questions to which we have no answers today. Could we maybe get an inkling of an answer right now?</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5785352\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, je tiens \u00e0 souligner ma d\u00e9ception. J'\u00e9tais tr\u00e8s impatient de parler de ce projet de loi aujourd'hui, d'abord pour des raisons tr\u00e8s personnelles. J'ai un pr\u00e9nom inuit, Alupa, qui veut dire \u00ab homme fort \u00bb, et dans ma famille, nous sommes tr\u00e8s sensibilis\u00e9s \u00e0 toutes les questions autochtones. Ma femme, qui est anthropologue, travaille aupr\u00e8s des Inuits depuis plusieurs ann\u00e9es, et mon p\u00e8re est un historien l\u00e9giste qui a d\u00e9fendu les Autochtones dans plusieurs causes en trouvant des trait\u00e9s ou en faisant des recherches pour ceux-ci.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785353\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Le ministre a dit que c'\u00e9tait un projet de loi extr\u00eamement important pour prot\u00e9ger et promouvoir les langues autochtones, dont certaines sont en train de dispara\u00eetre. C'est vrai. Auparavant, les lib\u00e9raux nous ont aussi dit que le lien le plus important de ce gouvernement est celui qu'il a avec les Autochtones. Ils l'ont dit \u00e0 maintes reprises, mais on constate que ce projet de loi n'appara\u00eet que quelques mois avant les \u00e9lections, \u00e0 la fin de leur mandat, quatre ans plus tard. Oui, il y a urgence d'agir, mais ce n'est pas vrai que nous pourrons tous et toutes prendre position et en discuter au sein du comit\u00e9. Comme il n'y a que trois places r\u00e9serv\u00e9es \u00e0 l'opposition, je ne pense pas avoir la chance d'y d\u00e9battre ou d'y apporter mes suggestions d'amendement. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785354\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Bien que nous appuyons ce projet de loi de prime abord, celui-ci est li\u00e9 \u00e0 des questions tr\u00e8s s\u00e9rieuses. La raison pour laquelle nous l'appuyons est tr\u00e8s claire. Elle se trouve dans le pr\u00e9ambule de la Loi sur les langues officielles, au dernier paragraphe, o\u00f9 il est \u00e9crit que le gouvernement reconna\u00eet l'importance, parall\u00e8lement \u00e0 l'affirmation du statut des langues officielles et \u00e0 l'\u00e9largissement de leur usage, de maintenir et de valoriser l'usage des autres langues.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785355\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> Ce projet de loi s'ins\u00e8re donc parfaitement dans la doctrine politique canadienne. Toutefois, il y a des questions tr\u00e8s importantes \u00e0 \u00e9claircir, et je vais les \u00e9num\u00e9rer d\u00e8s maintenant. Pourquoi la Loi sur les langues officielles est-elle quasi constitutionnelle? C'est parce qu'elle est li\u00e9e aux articles 16 \u00e0 23 de la Charte canadienne des droits et libert\u00e9s. Le ministre nous a dit que le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"10293463\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-91/\" title=\"An Act respecting Indigenous languages\">C-91, Loi concernant les langues autochtones</a>, est li\u00e9 \u00e0 l'article 35 de la Constitution. Est-ce que cela en fera une loi quasi constitutionnelle comme c'est le cas pour la Loi sur les langues officielles? Si tel est le cas, il faudra en discuter pendant des semaines, parce que cela aura de grandes cons\u00e9quences dans notre soci\u00e9t\u00e9. Ce seront des cons\u00e9quences s\u00fbrement tr\u00e8s positives, soit, mais il faut savoir o\u00f9 on s'en va lorsqu'on dit qu'un projet de loi pourrait \u00eatre quasi constitutionnel.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785356\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Par ailleurs, le projet de loi stipule qu'il y aura un commissaire aux langues autochtones. Aura-t-il des fonctions similaires \u00e0 celles du commissaire aux langues officielles? Auront-ils un bureau conjoint?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785357\" data-originallang=\"fr\">On nous parle \u00e9galement de financement visant \u00e0 prot\u00e9ger, pr\u00e9server et valoriser les langues autochtones. Est-ce que ce seront des plans d'action comme c'est le cas pour les langues officielles? Est-ce que ce seront des milliards de dollars sur cinq ans tous les cinq ans, comme dans le cas du plan d'action pour les langues officielles? Est-ce que le minist\u00e8re va recevoir une somme r\u00e9currente de 1 milliard de dollars tous les cinq ans \u00e9galement?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5785358\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Bref, il y a toutes sortes de questions auxquelles on n'a pas de r\u00e9ponse aujourd'hui. Peut-\u00eatre pourrions-nous avoir des balbutiements de r\u00e9ponse d\u00e8s maintenant.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2019/2/20/alupa-clarke-1/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/alupa-clarke/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4414/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "10493749",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Ordres \u00c9manant Du Gouvernement"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Indigenous Languages Act",
        "fr": "Loi sur les langues autochtones"
    },
    "h3": {
        "en": "Bill C-91\u2014Time Allocation Motion",
        "fr": "Projet de loi C-91 \u2014 Motion d'attribution de temps"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2019/2/20/",
    "related": {
        "document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2019%2F2%2F20%2F"
    }
}