Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2019-12-12 13:50:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Nathaniel Erskine-Smith",
        "fr": "M. Nathaniel Erskine-Smith"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"6022763\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madam Speaker, I hope to be able to work closely with the member in this Parliament on any number of issues. He mentioned the good work of our colleague from Prince George. I would add the member for <a data-HoCid=\"252713\" href=\"/politicians/charlie-angus/\" title=\"Charlie Angus\"> Timmins\u2014James Bay</a> and the member for <a data-HoCid=\"252919\" href=\"/politicians/peter-kent/\" title=\"Peter Kent\">Thornhill </a>and, of course, many members from this side of the House as well.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6022764\" data-originallang=\"en\">The three of us, representing three different parties, were able to attend in London. As I mentioned in my remarks, one would be hard pressed to know which party we each represented. We were there on behalf of Canada working with our international partners from different parties as well. Similarly, when looking at the U.K. Parliament, one would be hard pressed to know who the Tory or Labour members were. That fundamentally is the approach that bears results.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6022765\" data-originallang=\"en\">Tackling tech and talking about GDPR-like rules became a growing consensus at our committee, cross-partisan. We also looked at algorithmic transparency, the ability to audit algorithms to understand what are the positive and negative impacts of these algorithms that are being employed that are affecting our lives and affecting society.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6022766\" data-originallang=\"en\">In fact, in the public sector if a department or agency wants to employ an algorithm that is going to have a potential adverse effect, some 80-odd questions have to be answered. They are in the four risk categories. Depending on the risk category, they take certain remedial efforts. A private sector company that has many more data points and is doing many more things has no obligation whatsoever. That obviously needs to change.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"6022763\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, j'esp\u00e8re que la l\u00e9gislature qui s'amorce nous fournira de nombreuses occasions de collaborer, le d\u00e9put\u00e9 et moi. Il a mentionn\u00e9 le bon travail de notre coll\u00e8gue de Prince George. J'aimerais souligner de mon c\u00f4t\u00e9 le bon travail des d\u00e9put\u00e9s de <a data-HoCid=\"252713\" href=\"/politicians/charlie-angus/\" title=\"Charlie Angus\">Timmins\u2014Baie James</a>, de <a data-HoCid=\"252919\" href=\"/politicians/peter-kent/\" title=\"Peter Kent\">Thornhill </a> et, bien \u00e9videmment, de bon nombre de mes coll\u00e8gues de ce c\u00f4t\u00e9-ci de la Chambre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6022764\" data-originallang=\"en\">M\u00eame si nous repr\u00e9sentons trois partis diff\u00e9rents, nous avons pu nous rendre \u00e0 Londres. Comme je le disais tout \u00e0 l'heure, bien malin celui qui aurait pu dire quel parti chacun de nous repr\u00e9sentait. Nous \u00e9tions l\u00e0, au nom du Canada, pour rencontrer nos partenaires internationaux, qui repr\u00e9sentaient eux aussi des partis diff\u00e9rents. C'est la m\u00eame chose au Parlement britannique, o\u00f9 il est tr\u00e8s difficile de d\u00e9partager les d\u00e9put\u00e9s conservateurs des travaillistes, par exemple. En un mot, il s'agit de l'approche qui donne les meilleurs r\u00e9sultats.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6022765\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les membres du comit\u00e9, quelle que soit leur all\u00e9geance, s'entendaient de plus en plus pour dire qu'il faut s'attaquer \u00e0 l'aspect technologique et songer \u00e0 se doter de r\u00e8gles comparables \u00e0 celles du R\u00e8glement g\u00e9n\u00e9ral sur la protection des donn\u00e9es. Il a aussi \u00e9t\u00e9 question de la transparence des algorithmes et de la possibilit\u00e9 de les soumettre \u00e0 des v\u00e9rifications afin d'en comprendre les r\u00e9percussions, positives ou non, sur nos vies et sur la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6022766\" data-originallang=\"en\">\u00c0 vrai dire, si un minist\u00e8re ou un organisme public souhaite employer un algorithme qui risque d'avoir des r\u00e9percussions n\u00e9gatives, il y a environ 80 questions, divis\u00e9es en quatre cat\u00e9gories associ\u00e9es aux types de risques, auxquelles il doit r\u00e9pondre. Selon la cat\u00e9gorie en cause, certaines mesures d'att\u00e9nuation doivent \u00eatre prises. Or, les entreprises priv\u00e9es, qui poss\u00e8dent beaucoup plus de points de donn\u00e9es et dont les activit\u00e9s sont beaucoup plus vastes, ne sont vis\u00e9es par absolument aucune obligation. Je ne crois pas avoir besoin de pr\u00e9ciser qu'il faut que cela change.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2019/12/12/nathaniel-erskine-smith-2/",
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    "source_id": "10729962",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Speech from the Throne",
        "fr": "Discours du Tr\u00f4ne"
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    "h2": {
        "en": "Resumption of Debate on Address in Reply",
        "fr": "Reprise du d\u00e9bat sur l'Adresse en r\u00e9ponse"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2019/12/12/",
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