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{
    "time": "2018-05-25 13:00:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Murray Rankin",
        "fr": "M. Murray Rankin"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5434671\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank my colleague across the way for her intervention, recognizing our shared admiration for Dr. Naylor. That is something we would agree on 100%. His contribution to this country is not understood well enough by enough Canadians. On that we agree.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5434672\" data-originallang=\"en\"> On superclusters, I have heard some skepticism in some circles that the number of superclusters seems to align just perfectly with the different regions of Canada. I hope that they are entirely merit-based. I have no position or opinion on that, because I simply do not know, but I know some have noticed just how miraculous it was that it lined up so perfectly for the government. Nevertheless, the concept of superclusters, which I think is the main point of the member's remarks, is something that one has to accept.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5434673\" data-originallang=\"en\">I know that universities now, with the Internet and Skype, are talking to each other in a way that was unprecedented even 10 years ago. It is remarkable to see how modern research is conducted. We collaborate across regions in different sectors, and I think that this success will be built upon by the notion of superclusters. Unfortunately, as always, there are winners and losers, and we hear grumbling from people who were not successful in different parts of the country, but promoting collaboration is key.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5434674\" data-originallang=\"en\">The other point, however, that the industry committee talked about is that it is fine to have universities create great ideas, great intellectual property, but the next step involves using intellectual property regimes to harness it, to protect it, to sustain it, and then to see if we can commercialize it in a way that works for Canada and not just places like Silicon Valley.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5434671\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, je remercie la d\u00e9put\u00e9e d'en face de son intervention. Je partage son admiration pour M. Naylor. Nous sommes tout \u00e0 fait d'accord \u00e0 son sujet. Les Canadiens ne comprennent ou ne connaissent pas assez la contribution de David Naylor au Canada. Nous sommes du m\u00eame avis sur ce point.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5434672\" data-originallang=\"en\">Pour ce qui est des supergrappes, on dit dans certains milieux que leur nombre semble correspondre un peu trop parfaitement \u00e0 celui des diff\u00e9rentes r\u00e9gions du Canada. J'esp\u00e8re que les supergrappes sont enti\u00e8rement fond\u00e9es sur le m\u00e9rite. Je n'ai pas d'opinion \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard, car je n'y connais rien. Cependant, certains remarquent que les choses se sont align\u00e9es \u00e0 la perfection pour le gouvernement, comme par miracle. Il demeure qu'il faut accepter le concept des supergrappes, ce qui est je crois le point que fait valoir la d\u00e9put\u00e9e. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5434673\" data-originallang=\"en\">Gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 Internet et Skype, les universit\u00e9s communiquent de nos jours comme jamais auparavant, ou m\u00eame il y a 10 ans. La fa\u00e7on dont on m\u00e8ne d\u00e9sormais des travaux de recherche est remarquable. La collaboration est maintenant interr\u00e9gionale et intersectorielle, et c'est sur cette r\u00e9ussite que misent les supergrappes. Malheureusement, il y a des gagnants et des perdants, comme toujours. Dans certains coins du pays, il y a de la grogne parmi les demandeurs qui n'ont pas \u00e9t\u00e9 choisis. Promouvoir la collaboration est toutefois essentiel.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5434674\" data-originallang=\"en\">Cependant, l'autre point dont le comit\u00e9 de l'industrie a parl\u00e9, c'est qu'il est tout \u00e0 fait correct que les universit\u00e9s \u00e9laborent de grandes id\u00e9es, qu'elles soient cr\u00e9atrices de propri\u00e9t\u00e9 intellectuelle, mais elles doivent passer \u00e0 l'\u00e9tape suivante, se servir des r\u00e9gimes de propri\u00e9t\u00e9 intellectuelle pour en tirer profit, pour la prot\u00e9ger et la conserver et voir s'il est possible de la commercialiser de fa\u00e7on \u00e0 en faire profiter les Canadiens, plut\u00f4t que seulement Silicon Valley.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2018/5/25/murray-rankin-3/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/murray-rankin/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4152/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "10152763",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Routine Proceedings",
        "fr": "Affaires Courantes"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Committees of the House",
        "fr": "Les comit\u00e9s de la Chambre"
    },
    "h3": {
        "en": "Industry, Science and Technology",
        "fr": "Industrie, sciences et technologie"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2018/5/25/",
    "related": {
        "document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2018%2F5%2F25%2F"
    }
}