Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2018-04-17 10:40:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Kevin Lamoureux",
        "fr": "M. Kevin Lamoureux"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5345849\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madam Speaker, members across the way say that it is about disclosure. They are right. In this aspect of my comments, it is all about disclosure. What did the government of the day, the Harper government, have to say? It said no. It did not believe in telling Canadians how it is members of Parliament were spending their money. The only ones that were worse than the Conservatives back then were the New Democrats.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345850\" data-originallang=\"en\">What happened is that the leader of the Liberal Party, today's <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a>, said that even if the Conservatives and the NDP did not support it, the Liberal caucus would go it alone. We took the additional resources, which were scarce because we were the third party at the time, but it was important to the leader of the Liberal Party and we set up an internal system. The leader back then said that Liberal members of Parliament would participate in proactive disclosure.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345851\" data-originallang=\"en\">It was the Conservatives and the NDP who said no, because of their unwillingness to participate if obligated. If the Liberal Party wanted to move forward on it, we had to create our own system. Now, a couple of months went by and we were into the summer. This was three or four years ago. The Conservatives had one of those road to Damascus moments, at least on the aspect of the importance of proactive disclosure. As the <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">leader of the Liberal Party</a> back then tried to explain to this chamber, yes, Canadians have a right to know. It is a fair expectation Canadians have in terms of knowing how members of Parliament are spending the hundreds of thousands of dollars we are individually given as members of Parliament, all of which are tax dollars, and that they have a right to know that. We applauded the Conservatives for changing their minds on it.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345852\" data-originallang=\"en\">Of course, in order to get something done, we needed unanimous support. We still had the New Democrats refusing to give unanimous support to the issue. They fought it tooth and nail. It was not until we brought in an opposition motion, where they were literally embarrassed into supporting the idea and they had to stand up individually, that they changed their opinion. I believe that in the months and months that went by from when they initially said no, they realized, much like the Conservatives, that it was time to have proactive disclosure.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345853\" data-originallang=\"en\">We were glad to have played a very important role in that, believing it provided more accountability and transparency to Canadians. The <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a> then said, once he became <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a>, that ministerial mandate letters would also become part of the public domain. That was something new. What would happen before was that the former prime minister, Stephen Harper, would say what he thought a department should do, that he would pass that on through a particular minister, and they were known as the mandate letters. Would they become public? It is hard to say, depending on the minister.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345854\" data-originallang=\"en\">Let us think in terms of what the mandate letter is. It kind of captures the essence of what some of those important priorities are that a department should be moving toward. We have a <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a>, virtually from taking office, saying that these mandate letters are in fact going to be public. Whether it is from virtual day one of this Liberal cabinet to today, we have seen actions by this <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a>, by this cabinet, and by the Liberal caucus, because all my colleagues within the Liberal caucus understand the importance of accountability and transparency. We have strived to deliver that to Canadians.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345855\" data-originallang=\"en\">Now, there is always room for improvement. We can always do better. Maybe that is a good segue into what it is we are debating today through this particular report.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345856\" data-originallang=\"en\">Issues come up. All prime ministers travel. When prime ministers travel, they do not travel alone. There is a security issue. Let us wake up the Conservative Party and talk about Stephen Harper. When Stephen Harper travelled, there was a security detail that went with him. That is part of being a prime minister. There has to be security. Believe it or not, there are individuals around the world who would like to cause harm to the office of the Prime Minister, so there is that need. When the Conservatives talk about the hundreds of thousands of dollars, the costs of security are very real, just like the costs of security for the House of Commons. There is a cost to seeing the RCMP officers and security individuals we have within this chamber. That is just modern-day democracy, and the way our parliamentary system works. To throw around numbers or point out these huge costs in tax dollars because the <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a> took a vacation is disingenuous. It is meant to get Canadians upset. That is the real purpose of it. What is it that the opposition members are really trying to do? They do not have anything to talk about.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345857\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I will get to some of the things that are important to Canadians which this government will continue to be focused on, but before I do that, I want to pick up on the question I had posed to the <a data-HoCid=\"224944\" href=\"/politicians/candice-hoeppner/\" title=\"Candice Bergen\">opposition House leader</a>. Why do the official opposition in particular, with the support of the unholy alliance the New Democratic Party, want to continue to hit at the personal level?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345858\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I was in opposition for over 20 years. Most of my political career has been in opposition. Based on the experience I had in opposition, I can say that yes, at times we need to hold government accountable for some of the things that a minister, a prime minister, a premier, or even non-ministers do. We have independent agencies, such as the Ethics Commissioner, the Lobbying Commissioner, and Elections Canada. We have individuals who are far more independent in their thinking than the opposition parties are. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345859\" data-originallang=\"en\">The current Conservative Party goes out of its way, because it does not have anything to say about the economy. It does not have anything to say with respect to the social programming this government has been introducing since it has been mandated. These are very strong, tangible things that I will go into. However, before I do that, members should recognize that the reason we are debating this report today is that it fits the Conservative agenda of let us not talk about substance or government policy; let us talk about who we can attack in the cabinet of the Liberal government or even at times non-cabinet members. That is what the Conservatives look for all of the time. They are consistent when it comes to that. I will use the words \u201ccharacter assassination\u201d, because that is what it feels like at times. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345860\" data-originallang=\"en\">We have these independent offices so that if opposition members have concerns, they can raise those concerns in addition to raising them on the floor of the House. If we look at the report that was issued by Mary Dawson, the independent commissioner, I think it is a good report. The report is based on a lot of information. I know when the issue first came up, when the Conservatives first raised it, and good for them for raising the issue, right away there were discussions with Mary Dawson, the independent officer of Parliament, and there was an investigation.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345861\" data-originallang=\"en\"> From day one, the <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a> was very clear. He said that he would work co-operatively with the commissioner and respond to any of her inquiries.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345862\" data-originallang=\"en\">Opposition members continued to push the issue, which they can do so. They called for the report. They demanded the report. However, we did not tell Mary Dawson that she should release the report on such and such date. This is an independent office. If we were to do that, we would then be criticized for telling the independent office to provide the report by such-a-such date. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345863\" data-originallang=\"en\">However, when Mary Dawson came out with report, what took place? Immediately after the commissioner's report was tabled in the House, the <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a> took responsibility. He went over and above what was being requested. The Prime Minister said that when he went on a vacation, he would advance that information to the office.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345864\" data-originallang=\"en\">It was not as if there something was intentionally done to try to hide this. No one was trying to hide something. However, when people listen to the Conservatives, they would think there was a mass conspiracy. That is what the Conservatives want Canadians to believe. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345865\" data-originallang=\"en\">The <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a> took immediate responsibility and took specific actions to address the situation. However, it was not good enough. The Conservatives saw the report, which we are debating today. Why? Because it does not fit the Conservatives' narrative of who cares about what is happening in our communities with respect to economics or social policy. All they care about is how they can attack the individual. Far too often I see that demonstrated, whether in question period or otherwise. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345866\" data-originallang=\"en\">What were we supposed to debate today? The budget implementation bill. However, instead of debating that bill, we are debating an issue that is not new, that we have spent hours and hours of debate on. Instead of talking about the bill, the Conservatives want to regurgitate the same issue on which there is a report. The <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a> has taken responsibility. Therefore, one must question the motivation of the members across the way.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345867\" data-originallang=\"en\">Right now we are not debating the budget implementation bill because of the Conservatives. However, I will give them credit as they have been able to convince the New Democrats that their approach on this issue is the best approach for debate in the House. It is almost as if the enemy of my enemy is my friend is the attitude of the Conservatives and New Democrats. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345868\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I have had many years of experience being on the opposition benches. Who knows, it could be four years, 10 years, but I hope to have a balance with the same number of years in government as in opposition. That is a hope, but it will be Canadians who make that determination. For those who are wondering, it was just over 20 years in opposition. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345869\" data-originallang=\"en\">The joint opposition can continue to focus on the personalities. It can continue to focus on personal character assassinations. We, on the government benches, the Liberal caucus, will continue to focus on what really matters: Canada's middle class, those aspiring to be a part of it, and those who need a lifting hand. Those are the individuals we are here to represent, and we will do that day in and day out.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345870\" data-originallang=\"en\"> We will ensure there is more openness in government, more transparency, and more accountability. For those who are following the debate, they should not buy into what the joint opposition is saying, because we are moving forward on all fronts.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5345849\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, les d\u00e9put\u00e9s d'en face disent que c'est la divulgation qui est au coeur du probl\u00e8me. Ils ont raison. Mes observations portent effectivement sur la divulgation. Quel \u00e9tait le point de vue du gouvernement Harper, dans le temps? Il ne voulait pas de la divulgation proactive. Il ne consid\u00e9rait pas comme important de dire aux Canadiens quelles \u00e9taient les d\u00e9penses des d\u00e9put\u00e9s. Les seuls qui faisaient pire encore que les conservateurs, \u00e0 l'\u00e9poque, c'\u00e9taient les n\u00e9o-d\u00e9mocrates.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345850\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le chef du Parti lib\u00e9ral, qui est aujourd'hui le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a>, a d\u00e9cid\u00e9 que, m\u00eame si les conservateurs et le NPD n'\u00e9taient pas favorables \u00e0 l'id\u00e9e, le caucus lib\u00e9ral prendrait l'initiative seul. Il a fallu trouver des ressources additionnelles pour ce faire, et nous avons puis\u00e9 dans celles dont nous disposions, m\u00eame si elles \u00e9taient loin d'\u00eatre abondantes, \u00e9tant donn\u00e9 que nous \u00e9tions le troisi\u00e8me parti \u00e0 ce moment-l\u00e0. Aux yeux du chef du Parti lib\u00e9ral, il \u00e9tait important que nous nous dotions d'un syst\u00e8me interne. Il a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que les d\u00e9put\u00e9s lib\u00e9raux participeraient \u00e0 la divulgation proactive.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345851\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ce sont les conservateurs et le NPD qui ont refus\u00e9. Ils ne souhaitaient pas que la divulgation proactive soit une obligation pour tous. Si le Parti lib\u00e9ral voulait appliquer le principe, il lui fallait cr\u00e9er son propre syst\u00e8me. Puis, au bout de deux ou trois mois, au beau milieu de l'\u00e9t\u00e9, il y a trois ou quatre ans, les conservateurs ont connu leur chemin de Damas, du moins en ce qui a trait \u00e0 l'importance de la divulgation proactive. Comme le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">chef du Parti lib\u00e9ral</a> a essay\u00e9 de l'expliquer dans cette enceinte, en ce temps-l\u00e0, les Canadiens ont le droit de savoir. Il est tout \u00e0 fait l\u00e9gitime qu'ils veuillent savoir comment les d\u00e9put\u00e9s utilisent les centaines de milliers de dollars que chacun re\u00e7oit et qui viennent des taxes et des imp\u00f4ts pay\u00e9s par les contribuables. Les gens ont le droit d'obtenir cette information. Nous avons applaudi les conservateurs pour avoir chang\u00e9 d'id\u00e9e sur cette question.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345852\" data-originallang=\"en\">Certes, pour que quelque chose se fasse, nous avions besoin d\u2019un appui unanime. Les n\u00e9o-d\u00e9mocrates refusaient encore d\u2019appuyer unanimement la proposition. Ils s\u2019y opposaient bec et ongles. Il a fallu attendre la motion de l\u2019opposition pour que rien de moins que la honte les pousse \u00e0 appuyer l\u2019id\u00e9e. Ils ont d\u00fb annoncer l\u2019un apr\u00e8s l\u2019autre qu\u2019ils avaient chang\u00e9 d\u2019avis. Je pense qu\u2019au fur et \u00e0 mesure que les mois passaient, ils ont fini par se rendre compte, \u00e0 l\u2019instar des conservateurs, qu\u2019\u00e9tait venu le temps de la divulgation proactive.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345853\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous \u00e9tions heureux d\u2019avoir jou\u00e9 un r\u00f4le crucial \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard, convaincus que cette mesure favorisait une responsabilisation et une transparence accrues envers les Canadiens. Une fois devenu <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a>, le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que les lettres de mandat minist\u00e9rielles feraient partie du domaine public. C\u2019\u00e9tait une nouveaut\u00e9. Auparavant, l'ancien premier ministre Stephen Harper annon\u00e7ait ce qu'il estimait qu'un minist\u00e8re devait faire, en disant qu'il communiquerait l\u2019information au ministre concern\u00e9; c'est ce qu'on appelait les lettres de mandat. Ces lettres \u00e9taient-elles rendues publiques? C'est difficile \u00e0 dire, d\u00e9pendamment du ministre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345854\" data-originallang=\"en\">Quelle est la nature d\u2019une lettre de mandat? Ce document pr\u00e9sente en quelque sorte les objectifs prioritaires d'un minist\u00e8re. Pratiquement d\u00e8s son entr\u00e9e en fonction, le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> a affirm\u00e9 que les lettres de mandat allaient devenir des documents publics. Depuis pratiquement le premier jour de l\u2019arriv\u00e9e au pouvoir des lib\u00e9raux, nous voyons ce que fait le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a>, ce que font les ministres et les d\u00e9put\u00e9s lib\u00e9raux, parce que tous mes coll\u00e8gues du caucus lib\u00e9ral comprennent l\u2019importance de la responsabilisation et de la transparence. Voil\u00e0 ce que nous cherchons \u00e0 assurer aux Canadiens.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345855\" data-originallang=\"en\">Certes, il y a toujours place \u00e0 l'am\u00e9lioration. On peut toujours mieux faire. Voil\u00e0 qui me ram\u00e8ne d'ailleurs \u00e0 l'objet du d\u00e9bat d'aujourd'hui, \u00e0 ce rapport.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345856\" data-originallang=\"en\">Des probl\u00e8mes surgissent. Tous les premiers ministres voyagent. Quand ils le font, ils ne voyagent pas seuls. C'est une question de s\u00e9curit\u00e9. R\u00e9veillons les conservateurs et parlons de Stephen Harper. Lorsque Stephen Harper voyageait, il \u00e9tait accompagn\u00e9 de gardes du corps. Cela fait partie du m\u00e9tier de premier ministre. Il faut assurer leur s\u00e9curit\u00e9. C'est difficile \u00e0 croire, mais il y a des gens partout dans le monde qui souhaitent causer un pr\u00e9judice aux personnes occupant le poste de premier ministre. C'est pourquoi il y a des exigences en mati\u00e8re de s\u00e9curit\u00e9. Les conservateurs parlent de centaines de milliers de dollars de d\u00e9penses. Or, des co\u00fbts tr\u00e8s r\u00e9els sont associ\u00e9s \u00e0 la s\u00e9curit\u00e9, notamment celle de la Chambre des communes. Il y a un co\u00fbt li\u00e9 \u00e0 la pr\u00e9sence d'agent de la GRC et d'agents de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 dans cette enceinte. C'est ainsi que fonctionnent la d\u00e9mocratie moderne et notre syst\u00e8me parlementaire. Il est malhonn\u00eate de soutenir que le voyage du <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> a co\u00fbt\u00e9 \u00e9norm\u00e9ment cher aux contribuables. Les d\u00e9put\u00e9s de l'opposition le font pour que les Canadiens se f\u00e2chent. Voil\u00e0 leur v\u00e9ritable objectif. Que tentent-ils r\u00e9ellement de faire? Ils n'ont rien \u00e0 dire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345857\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je parlerai maintenant d'enjeux importants pour les Canadiens, enjeux sur lesquels le gouvernement continuera de mettre l'accent. Cependant, je veux d'abord revenir sur la question que j'avais pos\u00e9e \u00e0 la <a data-HoCid=\"224944\" href=\"/politicians/candice-hoeppner/\" title=\"Candice Bergen\">leader de l'opposition \u00e0 la Chambre</a>. Pourquoi l'opposition officielle en particulier, dans le cadre de son alliance contre nature avec le Nouveau Parti d\u00e9mocratique, veut-elle continuer de se livrer \u00e0 des attaques personnelles?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345858\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'ai si\u00e9g\u00e9 pendant plus de 20 ans sur les banquettes de l'opposition. J'ai pass\u00e9 la majeure partie de ma carri\u00e8re politique dans l'opposition. Compte tenu de mon exp\u00e9rience dans l'opposition, je peux dire que, effectivement, il faut parfois obliger le gouvernement \u00e0 rendre des comptes pour certaines des choses qu'un ministre, un premier ministre ou m\u00eame un simple d\u00e9put\u00e9 peut faire. On peut alors compter sur des entit\u00e9s ind\u00e9pendantes, comme le commissariat \u00e0 l'\u00e9thique, le commissariat au lobbying et \u00c9lections Canada. On peut compter sur des gens qui r\u00e9fl\u00e9chissent de mani\u00e8re beaucoup plus ind\u00e9pendante que les d\u00e9put\u00e9s des partis de l'opposition.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345859\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le Parti conservateur s'\u00e9vertue \u00e0 d\u00e9tourner l'attention parce qu'il n'a rien \u00e0 dire au sujet de l'\u00e9conomie. Il n'a rien \u00e0 dire non plus au sujet des programmes sociaux que le gouvernement actuel a mis en place depuis son arriv\u00e9e au pouvoir. Il s'agit de mesures tr\u00e8s solides et concr\u00e8tes, dont je vais parler dans quelques instants. Toutefois, j'aimerais auparavant souligner pour la gouverne de mes coll\u00e8gues que les conservateurs nous obligent aujourd'hui \u00e0 d\u00e9battre de ce rapport parce que, au lieu de discuter du contenu des politiques gouvernementales, ils pr\u00e9f\u00e8rent s'en prendre aux membres du Cabinet lib\u00e9ral, voire, parfois, \u00e0 des d\u00e9put\u00e9s. C'est ce que les conservateurs cherchent constamment \u00e0 faire. C'est dans leur nature. J'utiliserais le mot \u00ab diffamation \u00bb pour d\u00e9crire leur comportement, car c'est celui qui me vient parfois \u00e0 l'esprit quand je les vois agir ainsi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345860\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les commissariats ind\u00e9pendants offrent aux d\u00e9put\u00e9s de l'opposition la possibilit\u00e9 de signaler leurs pr\u00e9occupations aux commissaires en plus de les exprimer pendant les d\u00e9bats de la Chambre des communes. Selon moi, Mary Dawson, commissaire ind\u00e9pendante, a produit un bon rapport, fond\u00e9 sur une multitude de donn\u00e9es. Je sais que, d\u00e8s que les conservateurs ont parl\u00e9 de cette situation, ce qui est tout \u00e0 leur honneur, il y a eu de premi\u00e8res discussions avec Mary Dawson, mandataire du Parlement ind\u00e9pendante, et une enqu\u00eate a eu lieu.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345861\" data-originallang=\"en\">D\u00e8s le d\u00e9but, le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> a \u00e9t\u00e9 tr\u00e8s clair: il a affirm\u00e9 qu'il collaborerait avec la commissaire et qu'il r\u00e9pondrait \u00e0 toutes ses questions.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345862\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les d\u00e9put\u00e9s de l'opposition ont continu\u00e9 d'insister sur l'importance de ce dossier, comme ils en ont le droit. Ils ont demand\u00e9 un rapport. Ils l'ont m\u00eame exig\u00e9. Rappelons que nous n'avons pas indiqu\u00e9 \u00e0 Mary Dawson qu'elle devait produire un rapport pour une date pr\u00e9cise, puisque le commissariat est ind\u00e9pendant. Si nous avions fix\u00e9 une date, on nous aurait reproch\u00e9 d'avoir impos\u00e9 au commissariat, un organisme ind\u00e9pendant, de produire un rapport pour la date de notre choix. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345863\" data-originallang=\"en\">Que s'est-il produit lorsque le rapport de Mary Dawson a \u00e9t\u00e9 publi\u00e9? D\u00e8s que le rapport de la commissaire a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9pos\u00e9 \u00e0 la Chambre, le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> a pris ses responsabilit\u00e9s. Il est all\u00e9 au-del\u00e0 de ce qui lui \u00e9tait demand\u00e9. Il a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que, lorsqu'il prendrait des vacances, il transmettrait les renseignements au commissariat \u00e0 l'avance.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345864\" data-originallang=\"en\">Il n'\u00e9tait donc pas question de chercher \u00e0 volontairement cacher quoi que ce soit. Personne n'avait cette intention. \u00c0 \u00e9couter les conservateurs, les Canadiens pourraient toutefois s'imaginer qu'un grand complot se tramait. C'est ce que les conservateurs aimeraient leur faire croire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345865\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> a assum\u00e9 imm\u00e9diatement la responsabilit\u00e9 de ses actes et il a pris des mesures pr\u00e9cises pour faire face \u00e0 la situation. Toutefois, cela ne leur suffisait pas. Les conservateurs ont vu le rapport qui fait l'objet du d\u00e9bat d'aujourd'hui. Toutefois, il ne leur suffit pas. Pourquoi? Parce qu'il ne cadre pas bien avec leur vision des choses. Ils se moquent de ce qui se passe un peu partout au pays dans les dossiers de l'\u00e9conomie et de la politique sociale. Ils n'ont qu'un objectif en t\u00eate: s'en prendre \u00e0 une personne. J'en suis moi-m\u00eame bien trop souvent t\u00e9moin, notamment pendant la p\u00e9riode des questions. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345866\" data-originallang=\"en\">De quoi devions-nous d\u00e9battre aujourd'hui? Nous devions d\u00e9battre du projet de loi d'ex\u00e9cution du budget. Or, nous ergotons plut\u00f4t sur une question qui n'a rien de nouveau et \u00e0 laquelle nous avons d\u00e9j\u00e0 consacr\u00e9 d'innombrables heures \u00e0 la Chambre. Plut\u00f4t que de discuter du projet de loi, les conservateurs pr\u00e9f\u00e8rent ressasser la question qui fait l'objet m\u00eame du rapport. Le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> a pris ses responsabilit\u00e9s. Par cons\u00e9quent, on se doit de s'interroger sur ce qui motive les d\u00e9put\u00e9s d'en face.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345867\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Pour le moment, \u00e0 cause des conservateurs, nous ne pouvons pas discuter du projet de loi portant ex\u00e9cution du budget. Je leur reconnais toutefois une certaine habilet\u00e9, puisqu\u2019ils ont r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 convaincre les n\u00e9o-d\u00e9mocrates de l'efficacit\u00e9 de leur approche par rapport aux d\u00e9bats \u00e0 la Chambre. C\u2019est \u00e0 croire que, pour les conservateurs et les n\u00e9o-d\u00e9mocrates, l\u2019ennemi de mon ennemi est mon ami.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345868\" data-originallang=\"en\">J\u2019ai pass\u00e9 de longues ann\u00e9es sur les bancs de l\u2019opposition. Qui sait, peut-\u00eatre que ce sera 4 ou 10 ans, mais j\u2019esp\u00e8re en tout cas que je serai d\u00e9put\u00e9 de la majorit\u00e9 pendant aussi longtemps que j\u2019ai \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9put\u00e9 de l\u2019opposition. Ce n\u2019est qu\u2019un espoir, car ce sont les Canadiens qui en d\u00e9cideront. Pour ceux qui se posent la question, j\u2019ai pass\u00e9 un peu plus de 20 ans dans l\u2019opposition.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345869\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Cette nouvelle coalition aura beau continuer de s\u2019en prendre \u00e0 des personnes, de diffamer des gens, nous, les d\u00e9put\u00e9s minist\u00e9riels, les membres du caucus lib\u00e9ral, nous continuerons de nous int\u00e9resser \u00e0 ce qui compte r\u00e9ellement: la classe moyenne du Canada, ceux qui aspirent \u00e0 en faire partie et ceux qui ont besoin pour d\u2019un coup de pouce pour y arriver. Ce sont ces gens-l\u00e0 que nous sommes cens\u00e9s repr\u00e9senter, et nous allons d\u00e9fendre leurs int\u00e9r\u00eats jour apr\u00e8s jour. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5345870\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Nous verrons \u00e0 ce que le gouvernement soit plus ouvert, plus transparent et plus responsabilis\u00e9. Je conseille \u00e0 ceux qui suivent le d\u00e9bat de ne pas croire ce que dit cette nouvelle coalition, car nous faisons des progr\u00e8s sur tous ces fronts.</p>"
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