Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2018-12-03 17:25:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Mark Strahl (Chilliwack\u2014Hope, CPC)",
        "fr": "M. Mark Strahl (Chilliwack\u2014Hope, PCC)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5708321\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madam Speaker, it is always good to speak in the House and on an issue about which I am passionate, northern Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708322\" data-originallang=\"en\">Bill <a data-HoCid=\"6349930\" href=\"/bills/41-2/C-15/\" title=\"An Act to replace the Northwest Territories Act to implement certain provisions of the Northwest Territories Lands and Resources Devolution Agreement and to repeal or make amendments to the Territorial Lands Act, the Northwest Territories Waters Act, the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act, other Acts and certain orders and regulations\">C-15</a>, which we have heard referenced a number of times, was legislation of which I was very proud to have been a part. I was part of the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development. We spent a lot of quality time in the Northwest Territories talking to people about making government work better for the people of the Northwest Territories. That is what Bill <a data-HoCid=\"6349930\" href=\"/bills/41-2/C-15/\" title=\"An Act to replace the Northwest Territories Act to implement certain provisions of the Northwest Territories Lands and Resources Devolution Agreement and to repeal or make amendments to the Territorial Lands Act, the Northwest Territories Waters Act, the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act, other Acts and certain orders and regulations\">C-15</a> did. It devolved powers from Ottawa to the territories, something for which the Northwest Territories had been fighting and asking for decades. That is what our government delivered. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708323\" data-originallang=\"en\">This bill, Bill <a data-HoCid=\"10164459\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-88/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act and the Canada Petroleum Resources Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-88</a>, basically formalizes in law one of the most egregious slaps in the face I think I have ever witnessed as an elected representative.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708324\" data-originallang=\"en\"> The <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a> went to Washington, D.C., to see his friend Barack Obama off. He had already termed out. He was in the lame duck portion of his presidency. The Prime Minister decided that it would be a good going away present to put a moratorium on oil and gas drilling in the Beaufort Sea in the Northwest Territories and he did it without consulting.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708325\" data-originallang=\"en\"> The current government likes to talk about consulting with indigenous people. However, when the rubber hits the road, it could not care less what the indigenous people of the country think unless it goes along with its preconceived notion of what it wants to do as a government. We saw that with the moratorium. We saw it as well with the northern gateway pipeline, where the Aboriginal Equity Partners, a group of 31 indigenous communities, had a $2 billion opportunity staring them in the face. The <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a> and the Liberal government shut that down with the stroke of a pen. Again, they did it from Ottawa. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708326\" data-originallang=\"en\">When it comes to the Liberals, Ottawa always knows best and when it comes to indigenous peoples and the Liberals, Ottawa always knows best. We saw that with the moratorium and the northern gateway pipeline. They feel they have no obligation to consult when it comes to the economic opportunities they rip away from indigenous communities. They ripped away opportunities from the Aboriginal Equity Partners. They again ripped away opportunities from northerners with this moratorium.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708327\" data-originallang=\"en\">The member for <a data-HoCid=\"214588\" href=\"/politicians/michael-mcleod/\" title=\"Michael McLeod\">Northwest Territories</a> said that there was no oil and gas development happening there. Is that any surprise? Why would any company invest its hard-earned dollars in a jurisdiction when a government, with 20 minutes notice, can shut the whole thing down? In the case of the northern gateway pipeline, there was three-quarters of a billion dollars of private company investment and the government shut it down with the stroke of a pen, ripping away $2 billion of economic opportunity from a group of aboriginal communities in a region of the country that has very little other economic opportunity.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708328\" data-originallang=\"en\">What was the reaction from the northerners when this was done? The Northwest Territories premier, Bob McLeod, said very clearly, \u201cThe promise of the North is fading and the dreams of northerners are dying as we see a re-emergence of colonialism.\u201d He was talking about the approach of the <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a> and the government, with its colonial approach, shutting down development because it would play well with Barack Obama, the green lobby and southern Canada. They did not care at all what the reality would be in the north. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708329\" data-originallang=\"en\">The premier also stated, \u201cWe shouldn't have to stop our own development so the rest of Canada can feel better.\u201d He went on to say, \u201cWe need jobs. We need work. You want us to leave the North because we can't work there. You want us to live in a large park. That's essentially what's happened.\u201d</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708330\" data-originallang=\"en\">The Premier of the Northwest Territories gets exactly what the <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a> is trying to do, which is to make the Northwest Territories, Canada's north in general, Nunavut and Yukon, into a great protected space, where Ottawa will just keep sending up the money and the northerners will not have the ability to control their own natural resources and destiny. That is what Bill <a data-HoCid=\"6349930\" href=\"/bills/41-2/C-15/\" title=\"An Act to replace the Northwest Territories Act to implement certain provisions of the Northwest Territories Lands and Resources Devolution Agreement and to repeal or make amendments to the Territorial Lands Act, the Northwest Territories Waters Act, the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act, other Acts and certain orders and regulations\">C-15</a> did. It gave control of the north to those who lived there, to the northerners. It brought into line the regulatory processes and regime with what was happening in the rest of Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708331\" data-originallang=\"en\">In a way, I guess Bill <a data-HoCid=\"10164459\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-88/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act and the Canada Petroleum Resources Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-88</a> would do the same thing. The Liberal government brought in Bill <a data-HoCid=\"9630600\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-69/\" title=\"An Act to enact the Impact Assessment Act and the Canadian Energy Regulator Act, to amend the Navigation Protection Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-69</a>, which will devastate and kill resource development in this country. Everyone in the industry says so. Everyone in oil and gas knows that Bill C-69 will devastate them. The entire province of Alberta, from the NDP to the United Conservative Party and all points in between are saying that Bill C-69 has to be removed. The government must repeal Bill C-69, or at least pause it. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708332\" data-originallang=\"en\">The Liberals say, \u201cWe know best. We are the federal government.\u201d Here in Ottawa, in their wisdom, even though the price of oil is now down to $10 a barrel, a price differential of $50 between a barrel on the world market and what Albertan oil companies can sell it for, in their wisdom the Liberals say that is not a problem and that their hearts go out to them.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708333\" data-originallang=\"en\">With Bill <a data-HoCid=\"10164459\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-88/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act and the Canada Petroleum Resources Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-88</a>, they are saying that since Bill <a data-HoCid=\"9630600\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-69/\" title=\"An Act to enact the Impact Assessment Act and the Canadian Energy Regulator Act, to amend the Navigation Protection Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-69</a> devastated the resource economy in the rest of Canada, they need to partner it with legislation specific to the north, which would be Bill C-88, and would prevent oil and gas development in that region. What these Liberals do not seem to understand is that when capital investment is driven away, it does not simply turn around on a dime and come back when the moratorium might be lifted some day in the future.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708334\" data-originallang=\"en\">It is the same as we have seen in Alberta. When these companies pack up and leave, when they are driven out of the country by government policies, as they have been by the Liberal government, they do not simply turn around and come back with their billions of dollars and tens of thousands of jobs on a whim. It will take decades to repair the damage the government has done in three short years. It will take decades to build back the capacity and investor confidence that has evaporated since the Liberal government has taken office.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708335\" data-originallang=\"en\">Why has it evaporated? The government has taken the processes in place and politicized them for its own gains. The Liberals have said, \u201cWe do not care that the National Energy Board has conducted an independent two-year long, $750-million investigation of the northern gateway pipeline, with 209 conditions placed upon it. We do not care about that because we know best. We are going to cancel that pipeline. We are going to make it impossible for the energy east pipeline to go ahead. We are going to buy the Trans Mountain pipeline, just park it and see what happens in a few years after the next election.\u201d</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708336\" data-originallang=\"en\">Companies have abandoned this country in the billions of dollars and in the tens of thousands of workers. This legislation is just another example of that sort of philosophy where Ottawa knows best. The government certainly thinks it knows best when it comes to indigenous communities. Bob McLeod and many others in the north have said to the government, \u201cWe earn our living with oil and gas revenues. We work in these industries, and you are taking away opportunity from our people.\u201d However, the Liberal government does not believe it needs to talk to those people who actually support resource development. It believes it only needs to talk to people who support the Liberal government's agenda.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708337\" data-originallang=\"en\">When I hear the <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">Prime Minister</a> say that there is no relationship more important than that with Canada's indigenous people, his record proves it is simply untrue. With certain indigenous people, the ones who agree with him, he is very into maintaining that relationship. However, for those who disagree with the Prime Minister, or those who have an agenda and want to pursue economic development for their people, the Prime Minister does not have to consult with them, because Ottawa knows best. That is what this legislation is, an Ottawa-knows-best, made-in-southern-Canada solution for northerners.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708338\" data-originallang=\"en\">It is unlike our previous government, which wanted to see the north thrive. We wanted to promote northern sovereignty. We wanted to promote devolution of powers to northerners because they know best how to govern themselves. They do not need a prime minister going down to Washington, D.C., to tell them how to do it.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708339\" data-originallang=\"en\">We will proudly vote against this legislation, and when we form government in 2019, we will work to rebuild the damage the Liberal government has done in this country.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5708321\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, il est toujours agr\u00e9able de prendre la parole \u00e0 la Chambre au sujet d'un dossier qui me passionne, \u00e0 savoir le Nord du Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708322\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"6349930\" href=\"/bills/41-2/C-15/\" title=\"An Act to replace the Northwest Territories Act to implement certain provisions of the Northwest Territories Lands and Resources Devolution Agreement and to repeal or make amendments to the Territorial Lands Act, the Northwest Territories Waters Act, the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act, other Acts and certain orders and regulations\">C-15</a>, que l'on a mentionn\u00e9 \u00e0 quelques reprises, est une mesure l\u00e9gislative \u00e0 laquelle je suis tr\u00e8s fier d'avoir contribu\u00e9. Je si\u00e9geais \u00e0 l'\u00e9poque au Comit\u00e9 permanent des affaires autochtones et du Nord. Nous avons pass\u00e9 beaucoup de temps de qualit\u00e9 dans les Territoires du Nord-Ouest, \u00e0 discuter avec les gens pour trouver des fa\u00e7ons de mieux adapter les structures de gouvernance aux besoins des habitants de cette r\u00e9gion. Voil\u00e0 ce que le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"6349930\" href=\"/bills/41-2/C-15/\" title=\"An Act to replace the Northwest Territories Act to implement certain provisions of the Northwest Territories Lands and Resources Devolution Agreement and to repeal or make amendments to the Territorial Lands Act, the Northwest Territories Waters Act, the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act, other Acts and certain orders and regulations\">C-15</a> a accompli. Il a transf\u00e9r\u00e9 des pouvoirs d'Ottawa aux territoires, ce que les Territoires du Nord-Ouest r\u00e9clamaient, ce pour quoi ils se battaient depuis des d\u00e9cennies. C'est ce que le gouvernement conservateur leur a accord\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708323\" data-originallang=\"en\">Essentiellement, le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"10164459\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-88/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act and the Canada Petroleum Resources Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-88</a> pr\u00e9voit dans la loi l'insulte la plus scandaleuse que j'ai jamais vue \u00e0 titre de repr\u00e9sentant \u00e9lu.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708324\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> s'est rendu \u00e0 Washington, D.C., pour dire au revoir \u00e0 son ami Barack Obama. Ce dernier \u00e9tait d\u00e9j\u00e0 sur son d\u00e9part. Il \u00e9tait en fin de mandat. Le premier ministre a d\u00e9cid\u00e9 que ce serait un beau cadeau de d\u00e9part que de d\u00e9cr\u00e9ter un moratoire sur le forage p\u00e9trolier et gazier dans la mer de Beaufort, dans les Territoires du Nord-Ouest, et il l'a fait sans consultation. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708325\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le gouvernement actuel aime parler de consultations avec les peuples autochtones du pays. Toutefois, lorsque vient le temps de passer \u00e0 l'action, il se moque bien de ce que ceux-ci pensent, \u00e0 moins que cela ne corresponde \u00e0 la voie qu'il a d\u00e9j\u00e0 d\u00e9cid\u00e9 de suivre. C'est ce qui est arriv\u00e9 avec le moratoire. C'est aussi ce qui est arriv\u00e9 dans le cas de l'ol\u00e9oduc Northern Gateway, o\u00f9 Aboriginal Equity Partners, un groupe de 31 communaut\u00e9s autochtones, \u00e9tait \u00e0 deux doigts de recevoir un investissement de 2 milliards de dollars. Le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> et le gouvernement lib\u00e9ral ont ferm\u00e9 la porte d'un trait de plume. Encore une fois, ils l'ont fait d'Ottawa. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708326\" data-originallang=\"en\">Pour les lib\u00e9raux, Ottawa a toujours raison, et lorsqu'il est question des peuples autochtones et des lib\u00e9raux, Ottawa a toujours raison. Nous l'avons vu avec le moratoire et l'ol\u00e9oduc Northern Gateway. Les lib\u00e9raux estiment qu'ils n'ont pas \u00e0 mener de consultations lorsqu'il s'agit d'occasions \u00e9conomiques qu'ils font manquer aux communaut\u00e9s autochtones. \u00c0 cause d'eux, Aboriginal Equity Partners a rat\u00e9 des occasions d'affaires. En d\u00e9cr\u00e9tant ce moratoire, les lib\u00e9raux ont encore une fois priv\u00e9 de d\u00e9bouch\u00e9s les habitants du Nord.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708327\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le d\u00e9put\u00e9 de <a data-HoCid=\"214588\" href=\"/politicians/michael-mcleod/\" title=\"Michael McLeod\">Territoires du Nord-Ouest</a> a dit que, l\u00e0-bas, il n'y a aucune activit\u00e9 d'exploitation p\u00e9troli\u00e8re ou gazi\u00e8re en cours. Est-ce surprenant? Pourquoi une entreprise investirait-elle quelque part son argent durement gagn\u00e9 si le gouvernement peut mettre un terme \u00e0 tout un projet l\u00e0-bas avec un pr\u00e9avis de seulement 20 minutes? Dans le cas du pipeline Northern Gateway, une entreprise priv\u00e9e avait promis d'investir trois quarts de milliard de dollars, mais le gouvernement a tout annul\u00e9 d'un trait de plume, privant ainsi de d\u00e9bouch\u00e9s \u00e9conomiques totalisant 2 milliards de dollars un groupe de communaut\u00e9s autochtones dans une r\u00e9gion du pays qui dispose de bien peu d'autres perspectives \u00e9conomiques.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708328\" data-originallang=\"en\">Quelle a \u00e9t\u00e9 la r\u00e9action des gens du Nord \u00e0 cette d\u00e9cision? Le premier ministre des Territoires du Nord-Ouest, Bob McLeod, a fait la d\u00e9claration sans \u00e9quivoque suivante: \u00ab La recrudescence du colonialisme \u00e0 laquelle nous assistons actuellement fait que les promesses du Nord s'estompent et que les r\u00eaves des T\u00e9nois se meurent. \u00bb Il faisait allusion \u00e0 l'approche colonialiste du <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> et du gouvernement, qui avaient d\u00e9cid\u00e9 de mettre fin aux activit\u00e9s d'exploitation pour faire plaisir \u00e0 Barack Obama, au lobby vert et au Sud du Canada. Ils ne se souciaient pas du tout de la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 des gens du Nord.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708329\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le premier ministre de ce territoire a aussi dit ceci: \u00ab Nous ne devrions pas avoir \u00e0 interrompre notre propre d\u00e9veloppement pour donner bonne conscience au reste du pays. \u00bb Il a ajout\u00e9 ceci: \u00ab Nous avons besoin d'emplois. Il nous faut du travail. Vous voulez que nous quittions le Nord parce qu'il n'y a pas de travail. Vous voulez que nous vivions dans un grand parc. Voil\u00e0 essentiellement ce qui s'est produit. \u00bb</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708330\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le premier ministre des Territoires du Nord-Ouest comprend exactement ce que le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> du Canada essaie de faire: il veut que les Territoires du Nord-Ouest, le Nunavut, le Yukon et le Nord canadien en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral deviennent une zone prot\u00e9g\u00e9e o\u00f9 le gouvernement f\u00e9d\u00e9ral continuera d'envoyer de l'argent et o\u00f9 les gens du Nord ne seront pas ma\u00eetres de leurs propres ressources naturelles et de leur propre destin\u00e9e. C'est ce que leur offrait le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"6349930\" href=\"/bills/41-2/C-15/\" title=\"An Act to replace the Northwest Territories Act to implement certain provisions of the Northwest Territories Lands and Resources Devolution Agreement and to repeal or make amendments to the Territorial Lands Act, the Northwest Territories Waters Act, the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act, other Acts and certain orders and regulations\">C-15</a>. Il proposait de confier les affaires du Nord aux gens du Nord. Il harmonisait les processus et le r\u00e9gime de r\u00e9glementation avec ceux du reste du Canada.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708331\" data-originallang=\"en\">D'une certaine fa\u00e7on, c'est ce que ferait aussi le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"10164459\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-88/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act and the Canada Petroleum Resources Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-88</a> j'imagine. Le gouvernement lib\u00e9ral a pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"9630600\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-69/\" title=\"An Act to enact the Impact Assessment Act and the Canadian Energy Regulator Act, to amend the Navigation Protection Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-69</a>, qui aura pour effet d'emp\u00eacher l'exploitation des ressources au pays. C'est ce que disent tous les intervenants de l'industrie p\u00e9troli\u00e8re et gazi\u00e8re. Ils savent tous que le projet de loi C-69 aura un effet d\u00e9vastateur sur eux. En Alberta, que ce soit le NPD ou le Parti conservateur uni, ou tous les camps entre les deux, tout le monde estime que le projet de loi C-69 doit \u00eatre abandonn\u00e9. Le gouvernement doit l'abroger ou, du moins, le mettre sur pause. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708332\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les lib\u00e9raux estiment que, comme ils forment le gouvernement du Canada, ils ont toutes les r\u00e9ponses. Ici, \u00e0 Ottawa, m\u00eame si le prix du p\u00e9trole est tomb\u00e9 \u00e0 10 $ le baril, ce qui repr\u00e9sente un \u00e9cart de 50 $ entre le cours sur le march\u00e9 mondial et le prix qu'une p\u00e9troli\u00e8re albertaine peut obtenir, dans leur grande sagesse, les lib\u00e9raux disent que cela ne pose pas de probl\u00e8me et qu'ils sont de tout coeur avec les Albertains. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708333\" data-originallang=\"en\">En pr\u00e9sentant le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"10164459\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-88/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Mackenzie Valley Resource Management Act and the Canada Petroleum Resources Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-88</a>, ils nous disent que, comme le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"9630600\" href=\"/bills/42-1/C-69/\" title=\"An Act to enact the Impact Assessment Act and the Canadian Energy Regulator Act, to amend the Navigation Protection Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">C-69</a> a an\u00e9anti le secteur des ressources dans le reste du Canada, il leur faut \u00e0 pr\u00e9sent une mesure l\u00e9gislative s'appliquant express\u00e9ment au Nord \u2014 le projet de loi C-88 \u2014 pour emp\u00eacher les activit\u00e9s d'exploitation p\u00e9troli\u00e8re et gazi\u00e8re dans cette r\u00e9gion. Il y a une chose que les lib\u00e9raux ne semblent pas comprendre: quand on repousse les investisseurs, les capitaux ne reviennent pas en criant ciseau le jour o\u00f9 on d\u00e9cide de lever le moratoire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708334\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous avons constat\u00e9 le m\u00eame ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne en Alberta. Lorsque ces entreprises plient bagage, forc\u00e9es de quitter le pays \u00e0 cause des politiques du gouvernement lib\u00e9ral, elles ne font jamais volte-face sur un coup de t\u00eate et ne reviennent pas faire profiter au Canada de leurs milliards de dollars et des dizaines de milliers d'emplois qu'elles cr\u00e9ent. Il faudra mettre des d\u00e9cennies pour r\u00e9parer les dommages caus\u00e9s par ce gouvernement en l'espace de seulement trois ans. Il faudra des d\u00e9cennies pour restaurer la confiance des investisseurs et r\u00e9tablir leurs moyens, qui se sont volatilis\u00e9s depuis l'arriv\u00e9e au pouvoir des lib\u00e9raux. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708335\" data-originallang=\"en\">Pourquoi se sont-ils volatilis\u00e9s? Le gouvernement s'est appropri\u00e9 les processus en place et les a politis\u00e9s pour son propre avantage. Les lib\u00e9raux ont d\u00e9clar\u00e9, en gros: \u00ab Peu nous importe que l'Office national de l'\u00e9nergie ait men\u00e9 une enqu\u00eate ind\u00e9pendante \u00e9chelonn\u00e9e sur deux ans et au co\u00fbt de 750 millions de dollars sur le pipeline Northern Gateway, et qu'il ait impos\u00e9 209 conditions. Peu nous importe tout cela, nous avons toujours raison. Nous allons annuler la r\u00e9alisation de ce projet de pipeline. Nous allons emp\u00eacher la r\u00e9alisation du projet de pipeline \u00c9nergie Est. Nous allons acheter le pipeline Trans Mountain, le laisser prendre la poussi\u00e8re et attendre de voir ce qu'il adviendra dans quelques ann\u00e9es apr\u00e8s les prochaines \u00e9lections. \u00bb</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708336\" data-originallang=\"en\">Des entreprises ont quitt\u00e9 le Canada, ce qui a entra\u00een\u00e9 la perte de milliards de dollars et de dizaines de milliers d'emplois. Le projet de loi n'est qu'un autre exemple de la philosophie selon laquelle Ottawa a toujours raison. Le gouvernement est convaincu de savoir mieux que quiconque ce qui est bon pour les communaut\u00e9s autochtones. Bob McLeod et beaucoup d'autres gens du Nord ont dit au gouvernement: \u00ab Nous gagnons notre vie gr\u00e2ce aux recettes p\u00e9troli\u00e8res et gazi\u00e8res. Nous travaillons dans ces industries et le gouvernement enl\u00e8ve des possibilit\u00e9s \u00e0 nos habitants. \u00bb Le gouvernement lib\u00e9ral ne croit toutefois pas qu'il ait besoin de s'entretenir avec les gens qui sont favorables \u00e0 l'exploitation des ressources. Il pense qu'il n'a qu'\u00e0 parler aux gens qui appuient son programme.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708337\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'ai entendu le <a data-HoCid=\"214296\" href=\"/politicians/justin-trudeau/\" title=\"Justin Trudeau\">premier ministre</a> dire qu'aucune relation n'est plus importante pour le gouvernement que celle qu'il entretient avec les peuples autochtones, mais son bilan prouve que c'est tout simplement faux. Il s'investit grandement dans le maintien de la relation avec certains groupes autochtones, soit ceux qui sont d'accord avec lui. Il ne ressent toutefois pas le besoin de consulter les groupes autochtones qui sont en d\u00e9saccord avec lui ou qui ont un programme et qui souhaitent que leurs membres profitent des possibilit\u00e9s de d\u00e9veloppement \u00e9conomique, car Ottawa sait ce qui est le mieux pour eux. Voil\u00e0 l'essence du projet de loi; \u00e9tant donn\u00e9 qu'Ottawa a toutes les r\u00e9ponses, il s'agit d'une solution du Sud du Canada pour les gens du Nord.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708338\" data-originallang=\"en\">Son approche est bien diff\u00e9rente de celle de l'ancien gouvernement, qui cherchait \u00e0 favoriser l'\u00e9panouissement du Nord. Les conservateurs voulaient promouvoir la souverainet\u00e9 dans le Nord et encourager la d\u00e9volution des pouvoirs aux habitants du Nord parce que ce sont eux qui sont les mieux plac\u00e9s pour se gouverner. Ils n'ont pas besoin d'un premier ministre qui se rend \u00e0 Washington, D.C., pour leur dire comment faire. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5708339\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous allons fi\u00e8rement nous opposer \u00e0 ce projet de loi et nous nous efforcerons de r\u00e9parer les pots cass\u00e9s par les lib\u00e9raux lorsque nous reprendrons le pouvoir en 2019. </p>"
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