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{
    "time": "2014-05-13 10:35:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Hon. Pierre Poilievre",
        "fr": "L\u2019hon. Pierre Poilievre"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"3717499\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Speaker, the member addressed two issues. One is the issue of voting without ID. Under the status quo, people can vote without any ID whatsoever by having someone vouch for who they are. That is over. That is done. It is not coming back. It is a major improvement to require every single voter to present ID when he or she casts a ballot. I respect that he takes a different point of view, and though we are on opposite sides of that, I do not question his well-intentioned approach.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3717500\" data-originallang=\"en\">On the issue of the independence of the commissioner, there are two different functions. One is administration and the other is enforcement. The job of Elections Canada is to administer elections. If members read the Neufeld report, they will see that the administration had serious problems in the last election. There were 165,000 serious irregularities that represented breaches of practice, and that cannot continue. That is why we are focusing Elections Canada on its core job, which is to properly administer elections.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3717501\" data-originallang=\"en\">As for enforcement, there are two parts to enforcement. One is prosecution and the other is investigation. In the past, those two functions have been housed not only in the same office but in the same person. Prior to 2005, one person was both prosecutor and investigator. What we are proposing now is that they not be in the same person but in the same office. The prosecutor will be responsible, when charges are recommended, for taking those charges before the courts, but the investigator will be completely independent of Elections Canada and will be able to exercise a free hand in seeking out wrongdoing. All that we have seen over the last several years suggests that this independence is needed and that it will be a major improvement when it is achieved.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"3717499\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, le d\u00e9put\u00e9 a parl\u00e9 de deux choses. Il a parl\u00e9 du vote sans pi\u00e8ce d'identit\u00e9. \u00c0 l'heure actuelle, les gens peuvent voter sans pi\u00e8ce d'identit\u00e9 en se pr\u00e9sentant avec un r\u00e9pondant. Cette fa\u00e7on de faire, c'est termin\u00e9, fini. On ne reviendra pas en arri\u00e8re. Le fait d'exiger que tous les \u00e9lecteurs pr\u00e9sentent dor\u00e9navant une pi\u00e8ce d'identit\u00e9 avant de voter repr\u00e9sente une am\u00e9lioration de taille. Je comprends qu'il a un point de vue diff\u00e9rent et, m\u00eame si nous sommes d'un tout autre avis, je ne doute pas que l'approche qu'il pr\u00e9conise rel\u00e8ve d'une bonne intention. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3717500\" data-originallang=\"en\">Pour ce qui est de l'ind\u00e9pendance du commissaire, il y a deux fonctions \u00e0 prendre en consid\u00e9ration: l'administration et le respect de la loi. Le travail d'\u00c9lections Canada est d'administrer les \u00e9lections. Si les d\u00e9put\u00e9s lisent le rapport Neufeld, ils constateront qu'il y a eu de graves probl\u00e8mes d'administration aux derni\u00e8res \u00e9lections. On a relev\u00e9 165 000 irr\u00e9gularit\u00e9s graves, des d\u00e9rogations \u00e0 la pratique, en fait, et il faut mettre fin \u00e0 cela. C'est la raison pour laquelle nous recentrons \u00c9lections Canada sur sa mission premi\u00e8re, qui est de bien administrer les \u00e9lections.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3717501\" data-originallang=\"en\">Pour ce qui est du respect de la loi, il comporte deux fonctions: les poursuites et les enqu\u00eates. Par le pass\u00e9, ces deux fonctions \u00e9taient assur\u00e9es au m\u00eame endroit, mais aussi par la m\u00eame personne. Avant 2005, une personne faisait fonction \u00e0 la fois d'enqu\u00eateur et de poursuivant. Or, nous proposons maintenant que ces fonctions soient assum\u00e9es par deux personnes qui travailleront au m\u00eame endroit. Lorsque des mises en accusation seront recommand\u00e9es, il incombera au poursuivant d'en saisir les tribunaux, mais l'enqu\u00eateur sera compl\u00e8tement ind\u00e9pendant d'\u00c9lections Canada et aura le champ libre pour d\u00e9terminer s'il y a eu m\u00e9faits. Tout ce que nous avons vu ces derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es indique que cette ind\u00e9pendance est n\u00e9cessaire et qu'elle constituera une grande am\u00e9lioration.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2014/5/13/pierre-poilievre-2/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/pierre-poilievre/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/1394/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "8356285",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Initiatives Minist\u00e9rielles"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Fair Elections Act",
        "fr": "Loi sur l'int\u00e9grit\u00e9 des \u00e9lections"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2014/5/13/",
    "related": {
        "document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2014%2F5%2F13%2F"
    }
}