Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2012-04-26 12:35:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Pierre Poilievre",
        "fr": "M. Pierre Poilievre"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"2810954\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Speaker, the question of whether or not to hold a public debate is a public debate in itself. The answer is therefore the same as the question.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2810955\" data-originallang=\"en\">He also asked about the shareholders of these companies that he wants to tax more. Of course, all of the cornucopia of benefits that his party wants to sprinkle across the population it claims will come by just taxing businesses.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2810956\" data-originallang=\"en\">Who are these shareholders that he would ultimately be taxing? One of them is the Canada pension plan. Members of the NDP claim to support the Canada pension plan but that has $18 billion invested in domestic equities. Domestic equities are Canadian companies. The only benefit that the Canada pension plan gets from investing $18 billion in those companies is on the after tax profit of those enterprises. If we increase the taxes, the benefits are reduced. The Canada pension plan would be poorer if we start taxing its assets at a higher rate.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2810957\" data-originallang=\"en\">What the NDP and the Liberals are proposing every time they wag their finger at successful Canadian businesses and promise a tax increase is nothing less than a new tax on public pensions. It is a tax on the pensions of unionized workers at places like Canada Post. These are mathematical facts. The member cannot argue with the laws of gravity.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"2810954\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, la question de tenir un d\u00e9bat public ou non est un d\u00e9bat public en soi. La r\u00e9ponse est donc identique \u00e0 la question.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2810955\" data-originallang=\"en\">Il a \u00e9galement parl\u00e9 des actionnaires des soci\u00e9t\u00e9s dont il veut augmenter les imp\u00f4ts. Bien s\u00fbr, son parti pr\u00e9tend que pour financer la pl\u00e9thore d'avantages qu'il veut accorder \u00e0 la population, il suffit d'augmenter les imp\u00f4ts des entreprises.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2810956\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mais qui sont les actionnaires des entreprises qui seraient vis\u00e9es par ces hausses d'imp\u00f4t? L'un d'entre eux est le R\u00e9gime de pensions du Canada. Des d\u00e9put\u00e9s n\u00e9o-d\u00e9mocrates pr\u00e9tendent qu'ils appuient le R\u00e9gime, alors que ce dernier d\u00e9tient des actions canadiennes d'une valeur de 18 milliards de dollars. Les actions canadiennes sont \u00e9mises par des entreprises canadiennes. Or, cet investissement de 18 milliards de dollars n'est rentable pour le R\u00e9gime de pensions du Canada que si les entreprises enregistrent des b\u00e9n\u00e9fices apr\u00e8s imp\u00f4t, mais si nous augmentons les imp\u00f4ts, les b\u00e9n\u00e9fices diminuent. Par cons\u00e9quent, le fonds de r\u00e9serve du R\u00e9gime de pensions du Canada diminuerait si nous imposions davantage les entreprises dont il est actionnaire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2810957\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ce que les n\u00e9o-d\u00e9mocrates et les lib\u00e9raux proposent \u2014 lorsqu'ils pointent du doigt les entreprises canadiennes prosp\u00e8res et promettent une hausse d'imp\u00f4t \u2014 c'est ni plus ni moins un nouvel imp\u00f4t sur les pensions gouvernementales. C'est un imp\u00f4t sur les pensions des travailleurs syndiqu\u00e9s de la Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 canadienne des postes, par exemple. C'est math\u00e9matiquement prouv\u00e9. Le d\u00e9put\u00e9 ne peut pas nier l'\u00e9vidence.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2012/4/26/pierre-poilievre-2/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/pierre-poilievre/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/1394/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "7537128",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Initiatives Minist\u00e9rielles"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Business of Supply",
        "fr": "Travaux des subsides"
    },
    "h3": {
        "en": "Opposition Motion\u2014Pensions",
        "fr": "Motion de l'opposition \u2014 Les pensions"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2012/4/26/",
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    }
}