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{
    "time": "2012-11-22 16:25:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Jonathan Genest-Jourdain",
        "fr": "M. Jonathan Genest-Jourdain"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"3083198\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the hon. member for his question.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3083199\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Generally speaking, it would be nice to see some real involvement in Canada's political scene. There are seven Indians here in this House and some of them have never or almost never given a speech in public. I suggest that we forget about having token representatives and stop keeping Indian MPs around just for show. Instead, we should really get them involved in the decision-making process. I also suggest inviting first nations community members to get involved and really listening to them.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3083200\" data-originallang=\"fr\">The Conservatives will say that they held consultations with the first nations in this particular case, but there is no point if they are holding those consultations just for show and they do not take into account any of their comments or concerns. That is what happened in January. The Conservatives put on a big show complete with fireworks, but in the end, it was meaningless. There are still problems with education, and living conditions in first nations communities are still deplorable. That is because the Conservatives are all about smoke and mirrors and make-believe.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"3083198\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, je remercie de sa question mon confr\u00e8re. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3083199\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Ce qu'il serait pr\u00e9f\u00e9rable d'observer, sur la sc\u00e8ne politique canadienne en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, c'est une r\u00e9elle implication. Il y a sept Indiens ici, en cette Chambre, et il y en a quelques-uns qui n'ont jamais ou presque jamais prononc\u00e9 une allocution en public. Je sugg\u00e8re de laisser tomber un peu les processus de \u00ab <em>token</em> \u00bb, soit de garder un Indien simplement pour bien para\u00eetre, et de l'impliquer r\u00e9ellement au final, dans la prise de d\u00e9cisions. Je sugg\u00e8re aussi d'inviter les gens des communaut\u00e9s \u00e0 venir s'impliquer et de les \u00e9couter v\u00e9ritablement. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3083200\" data-originallang=\"fr\">On va dire qu'on a fait de la consultation dans ce cas particulier, mais si on ne prend pas en compte les consid\u00e9rations, les commentaires, et qu'on dise simplement, pour s'en laver les mains, qu'on a consult\u00e9 les Premi\u00e8res Nations, c'est encore un spectacle. On l'a d\u00e9j\u00e0 vu en janvier dernier, c'\u00e9tait un spectacle avec des feux d'artifice. Or, au final, c'est vide. On voit encore ce qui se passe sur le plan de l'\u00e9ducation, on voit encore que les conditions de vie ex\u00e9crables perdurent dans les communaut\u00e9s, et cela, parce que c'est du tape \u00e0 l'oeil et du <em>make believe</em>. </p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2012/11/22/jonathan-genest-jourdain-3/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/jonathan-genest-jourdain/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4059/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "7797875",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Initiatives minist\u00e9rielles"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Family Homes on Reserves and Matrimonial Interests or Rights Act",
        "fr": "Loi sur les foyers familiaux situ\u00e9s dans les r\u00e9serves et les droits ou int\u00e9r\u00eats matrimoniaux"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2012/11/22/",
    "related": {
        "document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fdebates%2F2012%2F11%2F22%2F"
    }
}