Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2011-12-15 10:55:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Pat Martin",
        "fr": "M. Pat Martin"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"2654657\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madam Speaker, our complaint with this bill is similar to that with previous pieces of legislation, that it has not fully matured yet. It has not gestated into a finished product. It is like a cake in the oven that is not yet baked. It still needs work and we are not doing anyone a service by going ahead with incomplete legislation that we would be stuck with for a long time. It is unlikely that these clauses of the Criminal Code will be reopened again in our generation. So it is incumbent on us to get it right.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2654658\" data-originallang=\"en\">I point out that sections 34 and 35 of the Criminal Code, which deal with the right to self-defence, have inherent ambiguities that have caused difficulty in the jurisprudence since 1892 and it is only now that we are addressing them in the Parliament of the latter days of 2011. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2654659\" data-originallang=\"en\">What we do today has a lasting impact. We want to get it right because it does a great disservice to ordinary Canadians like Mr. David Chen if we do not get it right. Imagine the confusion of a new Canadian, proud to be a small businessman in his chosen country, when this kind of crazy thing happens to him and he winds up being the one accused of wrongdoing when all he is trying to do is protect himself.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2654660\" data-originallang=\"en\"> We do not want that to ever happen again. We want to ensure that the language we incorporate in the context of this bill precludes that from ever happening again to any Canadian.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"2654657\" data-originallang=\"en\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, nous reprochons \u00e0 ce projet de loi la m\u00eame chose qu'aux projets de loi pr\u00e9c\u00e9dents: il n'est pas encore tout \u00e0 fait m\u00fbr. Il n'a pas fini sa p\u00e9riode de gestation et n'est pas encore un produit fini. Il ressemble \u00e0 un g\u00e2teau qui n'est pas encore cuit. On doit le retravailler davantage. Personne n'y gagnera si nous adoptons une mesure l\u00e9gislative incompl\u00e8te avec laquelle nous devrons ensuite composer pendant des ann\u00e9es. Il est peu probable que ces dispositions du Code criminel soient modifi\u00e9es \u00e0 nouveau pendant notre g\u00e9n\u00e9ration. Nous devons donc \u00e9viter toute erreur.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2654658\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'aimerais souligner que les articles 34 et 35 du Code criminel, qui portent sur la l\u00e9gitime d\u00e9fense, comportent des ambig\u00fcit\u00e9s qui causent des probl\u00e8mes dans la jurisprudence depuis 1892. Et ce n'est que maintenant, \u00e0 la fin de 2011, que nous nous attaquons \u00e0 ces probl\u00e8mes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2654659\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ce que nous faisons aujourd'hui aura des cons\u00e9quences pendant longtemps. Nous ne devons pas faire fausse route, car ce serait un mauvais service \u00e0 rendre aux Canadiens ordinaires comme M. David Chen. Imaginez la confusion de ce n\u00e9o-Canadien, fier d'exploiter un petit commerce dans le pays qu'il a choisi, qui vit une situation absurde comme celle-l\u00e0 et se retrouve accus\u00e9 d'un m\u00e9fait alors qu'il ne cherchait qu'\u00e0 se prot\u00e9ger.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2654660\" data-originallang=\"en\">Il ne faut pas que cette situation se reproduise. Nous devons nous assurer que les modifications apport\u00e9es dans le cadre de ce projet de loi auront pour effet d'emp\u00eacher que cette situation se reproduise un jour.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2011/12/15/pat-martin-5/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/pat-martin/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/2515/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "5417430",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Initiatives minist\u00e9rielles"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Citizen's Arrest and Self-defence Act",
        "fr": "Loi sur l'arrestation par des citoyens et la l\u00e9gitime d\u00e9fense"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2011/12/15/",
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