Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2011-10-03 17:15:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Hon. Jason Kenney (Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism, CPC)",
        "fr": "L'hon. Jason Kenney (ministre de la Citoyennet\u00e9, de l\u2019Immigration et du Multiculturalisme, PCC)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"2483590\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Speaker, I thank the member for her comments, although I would like to point out that most, if not all, of what she said is inaccurate. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2483591\" data-originallang=\"en\">I will point out a couple of examples. She spoke about the Vietnamese boat people as somehow being analogous to smuggled illegal migrants coming to Canada. That is an insult to the Vietnamese boat people, who fled Communist persecution in Vietnam, went to regional processing centres established by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees in Southeast Asia, submitted their claims for assessment, were determined to be convention refugees by the UNHCR and were then referred for resettlement by the UNHCR to countries like Canada, which invited them to come here in an orderly fashion. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2483592\" data-originallang=\"en\">That is how the international refugee protection system is supposed to work. It does not work by paying smugglers up to $50,000 to bypass the system, in this case often going from Tamil Nadu in India to Thailand or Malaysia and then to Canada, bypassing 24 other countries and multiple regional protection opportunities--and by the way, where is the persecution in Thailand?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2483593\" data-originallang=\"en\">She also mentions the charter. All it requires is that an oral hearing on credibility be granted before a decision-maker by the asylum claimant, which in the bill is a right that would be afforded to all, even to smuggled migrants. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2483594\" data-originallang=\"en\">Finally, it does nothing to violate the refugee convention because it fully respects our obligations of non-refoulement under the convention. We would not return anyone who has been deemed by our legal system to face danger or persecution.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"2483590\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, je remercie la d\u00e9put\u00e9e de son discours, mais je tiens \u00e0 souligner que la plus grande partie, si ce n'est l'int\u00e9gralit\u00e9, de ses propos \u00e9taient inexacts.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2483591\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vais donner deux ou trois exemples. Elle a compar\u00e9 les r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s de la mer vietnamiens \u00e0 des clandestins arriv\u00e9s au pays par des moyens ill\u00e9gaux. Or, c'est une insulte pour les immigrants vietnamiens, qui ont fui la pers\u00e9cution communiste au Vietnam, qui sont pass\u00e9s par des centres de traitement r\u00e9gionaux \u00e9tablis par le Haut Commissariat des Nations Unies pour les r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s en Asie du Sud-Est, qui ont pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 une demande d'asile en bonne et due forme et qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 consid\u00e9r\u00e9s comme des r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s au sens de la convention de l'ONU et aiguill\u00e9s vers des pays comme le Canada, o\u00f9 ils ont \u00e9t\u00e9 accueillis \u00e0 bras ouverts et d'une fa\u00e7on ordonn\u00e9e.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2483592\" data-originallang=\"en\">Voil\u00e0 comment le syst\u00e8me international de protection des r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s devrait fonctionner. Il ne suffit pas de verser 50 000 $ \u00e0 des passeurs pour contourner le syst\u00e8me et, dans ce cas, amorcer un p\u00e9riple \u00e0 partir de l'\u00c9tat du Tamil Nadu, en Inde, et transiter par la Tha\u00eflande ou la Malaisie avant d'arriver au Canada, alors qu'il y avait des possibilit\u00e9s d'asile dans 24 autres pays et de multiples r\u00e9gions. En passant, o\u00f9 y a-t-il de la pers\u00e9cution en Tha\u00eflande?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2483593\" data-originallang=\"en\">La d\u00e9put\u00e9e a \u00e9galement mentionn\u00e9 que le projet de loi viole la Charte. Or, aux termes du projet de loi, il suffirait que le demandeur comparaisse devant un responsable afin de prouver sa cr\u00e9dibilit\u00e9, un droit que le projet de loi accorderait \u00e0 tous les r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s, m\u00eame aux clandestins.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2483594\" data-originallang=\"en\">Enfin, le projet de loi ne viole en rien la convention sur les r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s puisqu'il respecte toutes nos obligations en mati\u00e8re de non-refoulement. Nous n'expulserions personne dont la vie pourrait \u00eatre menac\u00e9e ou qui risquerait d'\u00eatre victime de pers\u00e9cution selon notre syst\u00e8me juridique.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2011/10/3/jason-kenney-1/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/jason-kenney/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/1240/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "4336489",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": "Initiatives minist\u00e9rielles"
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Preventing Human Smugglers from Abusing Canada's Immigration System Act",
        "fr": "Loi visant \u00e0 emp\u00eacher les passeurs d'utiliser abusivement le syst\u00e8me d'immigration canadien"
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2011/10/3/",
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}