Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2009-06-04 11:10:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. R\u00e9al M\u00e9nard",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"1526089\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Speaker, I want to thank my colleague. I too respect his contribution. He is one of the more moderate people on the committee. He is always under control, and I am sure the people around him appreciate his inner peace, which, I hope, survives all the ups and downs of life.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1526090\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> I do not deny that certain provisions of the bill could be very helpful to law enforcement agencies when they are trying, for example, to break up organized crime gangs involved in drug trafficking. We agree with the increase in the maximum and with this provision of the bill. What we are concerned about, though, is the elimination of judicial discretion and the unfortunate effects of minimum mandatory sentences. I have explained over and over in the House why they are harmful.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1526091\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> It is not true that such provisions were used for a few years to break up organized crime. There were no minimum mandatory sentences. The countries that have been most successful at fighting organized crime do not have these sentences in their legal arsenals. The hon. member is drawing an ideologically driven connection between effectiveness and minimum mandatory sentences. This connection is not supported by the scientific literature.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"1526089\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, je remercie mon coll\u00e8gue. Je reconnais volontiers sa contribution. Il est un esprit mod\u00e9r\u00e9 du comit\u00e9. En toute circonstance, il est en contr\u00f4le de lui-m\u00eame, et je suis s\u00fbr que son environnement appr\u00e9cie la paix int\u00e9rieure qui le caract\u00e9rise et qui, je l'esp\u00e8re, survit \u00e0 toutes les circonstances de sa vie.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1526090\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Je ne nie pas que certaines dispositions du projet de loi pourront \u00eatre utilis\u00e9es tr\u00e8s efficacement par les organismes d'application de la loi lorsqu'il s'agira, par exemple, de d\u00e9manteler des r\u00e9seaux de criminels organis\u00e9s qui font le trafic de la drogue. Nous sommes d'accord avec l'augmentation maximale et avec cette disposition du projet de loi. Nous en avons toutefois contre le non-respect de la discr\u00e9tion judiciaire et les effets pervers qui sont rattach\u00e9s aux peines minimales obligatoires. Je crois avoir expliqu\u00e9 \u00e0 maintes reprises en cette Chambre pourquoi c'\u00e9tait n\u00e9faste.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1526091\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Il n'est pas vrai que, pendant plusieurs ann\u00e9es, des dispositions ont \u00e9t\u00e9 utilis\u00e9es pour d\u00e9manteler le crime organis\u00e9. Il n'y avait pas de peines minimales obligatoires. Les pays qui ont lutt\u00e9 le plus efficacement contre le crime organis\u00e9 n'ont pas de peines minimales obligatoires dans leur arsenal l\u00e9gislatif. Le d\u00e9put\u00e9 emprunte un raccourci id\u00e9ologique entre l'efficacit\u00e9 et les peines minimales obligatoires. Ce raccourci id\u00e9ologique n'est pas soutenu par la litt\u00e9rature scientifique.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2009/6/4/real-menard-2/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/198/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/1473/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "2808434",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Controlled Drugs and Substances Act",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2009/6/4/",
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