Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2009-06-18 13:25:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Marc Lemay",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"1566634\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Madam Speaker, how clever of the member for Argenteuil\u2014Papineau\u2014Mirabel. It is a shame that such a man is only a notary, because he would have made a very good lawyer.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1566635\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Seriously, joking aside, I will say this: What does an individual with nothing to lose do in prison? He becomes the right-hand man of the most vicious criminals who still have a chance of getting out. We have seen a great many of those become hitmen in prison because they knew they would never be released. What can we do with these men if rehabilitation is excluded?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1566636\" data-originallang=\"fr\">We will have to be careful. We are not talking about persistent repeat offenders or serial killers, because those have not been eligible since 1997. We are talking about an individual who killed only once. I am not suggesting that one should kill four times. I am talking about an individual who committed one murder and has come to terms with the frenzied act he committed. It might have been a premeditated murder. I could go on for days about such cases. I once had a client who planned for an entire week the murder of his wife's lover. It took seven years behind bar before he realized the error of his ways. When we eventually had him released after 17 years of imprisonment\u2014he served 10 more years\u2014he became an asset to society.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1566637\" data-originallang=\"fr\">If that possibility is taken away, violence will certainly increase among detainees. That is what I think beyond a reasonable doubt.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"1566634\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Madame la Pr\u00e9sidente, quelle grande subtilit\u00e9 de la part du d\u00e9put\u00e9 d'Argenteuil\u2014Papineau\u2014Mirabel! Dommage que cet homme ne soit que notaire; il aurait pu \u00eatre un tr\u00e8s bon avocat. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1566635\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Sur un ton plus s\u00e9rieux, laissant tomber la badinerie, je vous dirai ceci: celui qui n'a plus rien \u00e0 perdre, que fait-il dans une prison? Il devient le bras droit des pires criminels qui, eux, ont des chances de s'en sortir. Combien de ces individus a-t-on vu devenir des tueurs \u00e0 gages en prison, parce qu'ils savaient qu'ils ne sortiraient jamais? Si on emp\u00eache la r\u00e9habilitation, quel travail pourra \u00eatre fait aupr\u00e8s des individus?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1566636\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Il faudra \u00eatre prudent. On ne parle pas de multir\u00e9cidivistes ni de tueurs en s\u00e9rie, parce qu'ils n'y sont de toute fa\u00e7on pas admissibles, depuis 1997. On parle d'un individu qui a tu\u00e9 une fois. Je ne dis pas qu'il faille tuer quatre fois. Je parle d'un individu qui a tu\u00e9 une fois et qui a pris conscience du geste de folie qu'il a commis. Il s'agissait peut-\u00eatre un meurtre pr\u00e9m\u00e9dit\u00e9. Je pourrais parler de ces cas pendant des jours. J'ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 eu un client qui a mis une semaine \u00e0 pr\u00e9m\u00e9diter son crime, soit le meurtre de l'amant de sa femme. Il lui a fallu sept ans de d\u00e9tention avant de r\u00e9aliser quelle folie il avait fait. Quand on a r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 le remettre en libert\u00e9, apr\u00e8s 17 ans d'emprisonnement \u2014 il a purg\u00e9 10 autres ann\u00e9es \u2014 il est devenu un actif pour la soci\u00e9t\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1566637\" data-originallang=\"fr\">S'il n'y a plus de possibilit\u00e9, il y aura s\u00fbrement une augmentation de la violence en d\u00e9tention. Selon moi, c'est hors de tout doute raisonnable.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2009/6/18/marc-lemay-6/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/marc-lemay/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/1453/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "2847058",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Serious Time for the Most Serious Crime Act",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2009/6/18/",
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