Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2009-11-05 16:45:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Ms. Jean Crowder (Nanaimo\u2014Cowichan, NDP)",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"1678508\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Speaker, I will be splitting my time with the member for <a data-HoCid=\"128407\" href=\"/politicians/malcolm-allen/\" title=\"Malcolm Allen\">Welland</a>.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678509\" data-originallang=\"en\">I want to begin by indicating that New Democrats will be supporting this bill in principle. We have been advocating the need for changes to the Employment Insurance Act, including self-employment, for a very long time, and we look forward to sending this bill to committee in order to consider it fully and recommend some potential changes to the legislation.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678510\" data-originallang=\"en\">For Canadians who may be tuning in, I want to cover some of the key points in this piece of legislation. Many people are self-employed and this will only deal with a very small group of them. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678511\" data-originallang=\"en\">Specifically, this legislation would allow self-employed Canadians to opt into employment insurance programs dealing specifically with maternity benefits, up to a maximum of 15 weeks; parental and adoptive benefits, up to a maximum of 35 weeks; sick leave benefits up to a maximum of 15 weeks; and compassionate care benefits up to a maximum of six weeks. We see this as being a positive step. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678512\" data-originallang=\"en\">As other members in the House have pointed out, the member for <a data-HoCid=\"128220\" href=\"/politicians/chris-charlton/\" title=\"Chris Charlton\">Hamilton Mountain</a> introduced legislation in the House to deal with some of the issues regarding employment insurance and maternity benefits.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678513\" data-originallang=\"en\">We have heard members in the House speak about the fact that it is about time this bill was introduced. I want to bring to the attention of the House a report from 1999 called \u201cThe human face: unemployment insurance\u201d. In those days it was called unemployment insurance. This was a report put together by the member for <a data-HoCid=\"128673\" href=\"/politicians/yvon-godin/\" title=\"Yvon Godin\">Acadie\u2014Bathurst</a>. It is probably no surprise to members of the House that the member for <a data-HoCid=\"128673\" href=\"/politicians/yvon-godin/\" title=\"Yvon Godin\">Acadie\u2014Bathurst</a> has done very good work for a number of years with respect to employment insurance.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678514\" data-originallang=\"en\">People say it is about time, but in 1999, as a result of a cross-country tour that the member undertook, one of the recommendations was that insurance must be made available to more self-employed workers. In the report he outlined a much broader perspective than just the kinds of special benefits that we are talking about: maternity, paternity, adoptive, compassionate care and sickness benefits. He outlined a proposal that talked about covering self-employed workers in all categories of employment. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678515\" data-originallang=\"en\">When people say it is about time, it is a sad commentary. It has been 10 years since this report was put together that we are finally seeing some movement on employment insurance benefits for self-employed workers.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678516\" data-originallang=\"en\">We have also heard in the House that there are approximately 2.6 million self-employed workers in this country. That is a significant portion of the workforce. We are talking about workers who have no social safety net.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678517\" data-originallang=\"en\"> We are talking about workers who, if they fall sick, are \u201cTough, out of luck\u201d. If they become pregnant or adopt a child, they have to somehow figure out how to make ends meet if they put their business on hold. If they have a child who becomes ill, as the member opposite pointed out, they have to find some other way to cover their expenses when they need that very important family time to look after that sick child.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678518\" data-originallang=\"en\">We are also talking about many self-employed workers who are not self-employed by choice. In an economic downturn, many workers lose their employment. They lose the good paying jobs that they have come to rely on for their families. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678519\" data-originallang=\"en\">In my own riding forestry has taken hit after hit after hit, and many of the workers do not want to collect employment insurance, despite the fact that they have paid into it for many years. They want to work hard, bring home a paycheque, and support their families. What many of these workers do when they lose their employment through no fault of their own is look at how they can make a living in their community through self-employment. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678520\" data-originallang=\"en\">Someone recently came into my constituency office in Nanaimo\u2014Cowichan to talk about that very thing. Sadly, in his case, he was going to be completely out of pocket. He had come up with an idea to put together a company and was doing all of the groundwork around it. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678521\" data-originallang=\"en\">He told the employment insurance office that it was going to take him a little longer to make money and asked if he could apply for one of the programs that helps self-employed workers. There are some programs that help self-employed workers start up businesses. Sadly, in his case, because he had already gotten involved in starting up this company, because he had already done a significant amount of work, he was not eligible.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678522\" data-originallang=\"en\">Here was a worker attempting to support himself, asking for some assistance from the government, so he could get his business off the ground and because of the very rigid rules in place around employment insurance, he simply was not eligible.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678523\" data-originallang=\"en\">That is just one example of what happens to workers who are self-employed when they are looking for some financial assistance through a bit of a cash crunch. But I want to come back for one moment to some of the other workers who are being forced into self-employment.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678524\" data-originallang=\"en\">Women are particularly disadvantaged. We find that women are often in contract, seasonal, part-time, self-employed work. In fact, women are some of the most significant business-starters in this country. There are significant numbers there. Under our current employment insurance system, women are disadvantaged. Only about a third of women who pay into it actually collect. On the other hand, we have women who are in non-standard employment, as it is called. This non-standard employment often leaves them ineligible to even pay into employment insurance.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678525\" data-originallang=\"en\">Although we welcome these changes that are put before the House in terms of special benefits and the ability of workers to opt in, we would really encourage the government to actually expand how it is looking at self-employed workers to ensure that there is that social safety net there for them.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678526\" data-originallang=\"en\">I want to touch briefly on the fact that New Democrats have consistently called for a significant number of changes to the Employment Insurance Act. We have seen the erosion of employment insurance since the mid-1990s. What we have seen is far fewer workers being able to qualify. We have seen the benefit rates reduced. We have seen the number of weeks that people can collect reduced.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678527\" data-originallang=\"en\">We have seen some other anomalies in the system and I have raised this in this House before. There are problems with how the unemployment rate is calculated in regions, which then directly impacts on the number of weeks of benefits that people can claim.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678528\" data-originallang=\"en\">In my own region, our unemployment rate is tied to the city of Vancouver. Of course, anybody who knows this country knows that Vancouver Island has a very different labour market than the city of Vancouver. It means that workers in my area collect far fewer weeks than the unemployment rate in our area actually would warrant if it were a more reasonable determination.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678529\" data-originallang=\"en\">We know that there are some significant problems with the current employment insurance legislation. We also have heard members in this House speak about EI premiums. We know that over the years, workers and their employers have paid into the employment insurance fund, which used to be the unemployment insurance fund. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678530\" data-originallang=\"en\">What we have also known is that this money has been siphoned off to pay down the debt. Some $54 billion to $57 billion of workers' and their employers' money has gone not into providing that social safety net, not into providing training and education for workers, not into providing some other benefits that would help an employer become more productive but into the government coffers. I would argue that in any other place, we would probably call that theft.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678531\" data-originallang=\"en\">When people are talking about problems with the employment insurance fund and arguing that somehow or other a small measure for the self-employed is somehow not good enough, I would argue that we should support this measure and actually encourage the government to go further, to ensure that the funds that workers are paying are actually going toward programs that are going to support them and their companies, to look at how we can increase the self-employed benefits, and also at how we look at the overall fund.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678532\" data-originallang=\"en\">I know that there is a lot of good work that has been done both by members of the New Democratic Party and also by the labour movement. I want to touch upon a couple of things that they have proposed in terms of changes that would be helpful with regard to creating a job strategy that ensures people have well-paying jobs and then looking at the social safety net that supports them when they do not have those jobs. One of the aspects I want to focus on very briefly is the fact that we need to ensure that we have well-paying jobs in manufacturing and forestry in this country. There are a couple of ways we can do that.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678533\" data-originallang=\"en\">First of all, we can ensure that we develop sector strategies that look at investments in forestry and manufacturing. We can ensure that the raw resources are processed here in Canada, that they are value added and ensure that we add as much value in order to keep those jobs in our communities. We can also work to prevent plant closures by investing in those plants, helping those companies upgrade equipment, so that they are productive and efficient.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678534\" data-originallang=\"en\">In closing, I urge all members of this House to support this bill at second reading and get it to committee, so that we can have a further discussion around the kinds of changes that we need to see to the employment insurance legislation.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"1678508\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, je vais partager mon temps de parole avec le d\u00e9put\u00e9 de <a data-HoCid=\"128407\" href=\"/politicians/malcolm-allen/\" title=\"Malcolm Allen\">Welland</a>.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678509\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je veux d'abord mentionner que les n\u00e9o-d\u00e9mocrates appuient le projet en principe. Nous insistons depuis longtemps sur la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 d'apporter des changements \u00e0 la Loi sur l'assurance-emploi, notamment en ce qui a trait aux travailleurs ind\u00e9pendants, et nous serons heureux de voir le comit\u00e9 \u00e9tudier le projet de loi de fa\u00e7on approfondie, et peut-\u00eatre recommander certains changements. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678510\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vais traiter de certains aspects cl\u00e9s du projet de loi, pour le b\u00e9n\u00e9fice des Canadiens qui nous \u00e9coutent. Il y a beaucoup de travailleurs ind\u00e9pendants, mais cette mesure ne s'applique qu'\u00e0 un tr\u00e8s petit nombre d'entre eux.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678511\" data-originallang=\"en\">D'une fa\u00e7on plus pr\u00e9cise, le projet de loi permettrait aux travailleurs ind\u00e9pendants d'adh\u00e9rer \u00e0 des programmes d'assurance-emploi pr\u00e9voyant express\u00e9ment ce qui suit: des prestations de maternit\u00e9, jusqu'\u00e0 un maximum de 15 semaines; des prestations parentales ou d'adoption, jusqu'\u00e0 concurrence de 35 semaines; des prestations de maladie, jusqu'\u00e0 un maximum de 15 semaines; et des prestations de soignant, jusqu'\u00e0 concurrence de six semaines. Selon nous, ces mesures sont un pas dans la bonne direction. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678512\" data-originallang=\"en\">Comme certains l'ont mentionn\u00e9, la d\u00e9put\u00e9e de <a data-HoCid=\"128220\" href=\"/politicians/chris-charlton/\" title=\"Chris Charlton\">Hamilton Mountain</a> a pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 une mesure l\u00e9gislative traitant de certaines questions li\u00e9es \u00e0 l'assurance-emploi et aux prestations de maternit\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678513\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Des d\u00e9put\u00e9s ont dit que ce projet de loi s'imposait depuis longtemps. Je veux attirer l'attention de la Chambre sur un rapport de 1999 intitul\u00e9 \u00ab Le c\u00f4t\u00e9 humain : assurance-ch\u00f4mage \u00bb. \u00c0 l'\u00e9poque, on parlait de l'assurance-ch\u00f4mage. Ce rapport avait \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9dig\u00e9 par le d\u00e9put\u00e9 d'<a data-HoCid=\"128673\" href=\"/politicians/yvon-godin/\" title=\"Yvon Godin\">Acadie\u2014Bathurst</a>. Ce n'est probablement pas une surprise pour les d\u00e9put\u00e9s d'entendre dire que notre coll\u00e8gue d'<a data-HoCid=\"128673\" href=\"/politicians/yvon-godin/\" title=\"Yvon Godin\">Acadie\u2014Bathurst</a> fait du tr\u00e8s bon travail depuis plusieurs ann\u00e9es relativement au dossier de l'assurance-emploi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678514\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ainsi, on dit que cette mesure s'impose depuis longtemps. \u00c0 cet \u00e9gard, en 1999, suite \u00e0 une tourn\u00e9e pancanadienne effectu\u00e9e par le d\u00e9put\u00e9, l'une des recommandations formul\u00e9es portait qu'un plus grand nombre de travailleurs ind\u00e9pendants devraient \u00eatre admissibles \u00e0 l'assurance-emploi. Dans son rapport, mon coll\u00e8gue proposait des mesures beaucoup plus \u00e9tendues que ce dont il est question ici, \u00e0 savoir les prestations de maternit\u00e9, de paternit\u00e9, d'adoption, de soignant et de maladie. Le d\u00e9put\u00e9 avait formul\u00e9 une proposition visant \u00e0 inclure les travailleurs ind\u00e9pendants dans toutes les cat\u00e9gories d'emploi. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678515\" data-originallang=\"en\">En fait, il est triste d'entendre dire que ce projet de loi s'impose depuis longtemps. Il aura fallu dix ans, depuis la r\u00e9daction du rapport, avant d'enfin voir le gouvernement prendre certaines mesures relativement aux prestations d'assurance-emploi pour les travailleurs ind\u00e9pendants.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678516\" data-originallang=\"en\">Certains d\u00e9put\u00e9s ont aussi mentionn\u00e9 qu'il y a environ 2,6 millions de travailleurs ind\u00e9pendants au Canada. Ce chiffre repr\u00e9sente une proportion importante de la population active. Nous parlons ici de travailleurs qui n'ont pas de filet de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678517\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous parlons de travailleurs qui, s'ils tombent malades, ne peuvent compter sur aucune aide ext\u00e9rieure. Nous parlons de travailleuses qui, lorsqu'elles deviennent enceintes ou adoptent un enfant, doivent trouver une fa\u00e7on de joindre les deux bouts si elles cessent temporairement leurs activit\u00e9s professionnelles. Il en est aussi de m\u00eame si, comme l'a mentionn\u00e9 le d\u00e9put\u00e9 d'en face, leur enfant est malade et que ces personnes doivent trouver une fa\u00e7on de subvenir \u00e0 leurs besoins lorsqu'elles doivent rester \u00e0 la maison pour s'occuper de cet enfant.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678518\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous parlons aussi d'un grand nombre de travailleurs ind\u00e9pendants qui ne sont pas des travailleurs autonomes par choix. En p\u00e9riode de ralentissement \u00e9conomique, un grand nombre de travailleurs perdent leur emploi. Ils perdent de bons emplois r\u00e9mun\u00e9rateurs sur lesquels ils comptaient pour subvenir aux besoins de leurs familles.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678519\" data-originallang=\"en\">Dans ma propre circonscription, l'industrie foresti\u00e8re a subi plusieurs coups durs et un grand nombre de travailleurs ne veulent pas toucher de prestations d'assurance-emploi, m\u00eame s'ils ont contribu\u00e9 au programme durant des ann\u00e9es. Ils pr\u00e9f\u00e8rent travailler fort, toucher un ch\u00e8que de paie et subvenir aux besoins de leurs familles. Lorsqu'ils perdent leur emploi, sans que ce ne soit de leur faute, bon nombre de ces travailleurs essaient de voir comment ils pourraient gagner leur vie en travaillant \u00e0 leur compte au sein de la collectivit\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678520\" data-originallang=\"en\"> R\u00e9cemment, un homme est venu parler exactement de cela \u00e0 mon bureau de circonscription, \u00e0 Nanaimo\u2014Cowichan. Malheureusement, il allait se trouver compl\u00e8tement \u00e0 court d\u2019argent. Il avait eu l\u2019id\u00e9e de cr\u00e9er une entreprise et il \u00e9tait en train de faire tout le travail pr\u00e9paratoire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678521\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Il a dit au bureau de l\u2019assurance-emploi que \u00e7a allait lui prendre un peu plus de temps avant de pouvoir gagner de l\u2019argent et il a demand\u00e9 s\u2019il pouvait b\u00e9n\u00e9ficier d\u2019un des programmes qui viennent en aide aux travailleurs autonomes. Il y a certains programmes qui aident les travailleurs autonomes \u00e0 lancer une entreprise. Malheureusement, dans son cas, comme il avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 commenc\u00e9 les d\u00e9marches pour cr\u00e9er son entreprise et qu\u2019il avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 fait une bonne partie du travail, il n\u2019\u00e9tait pas admissible.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678522\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Ce travailleur essayait de subvenir \u00e0 ses propres besoins et il demandait de l\u2019aide au gouvernement afin de pouvoir lancer son entreprise, mais il n\u2019\u00e9tait pas admissible \u00e0 cause des r\u00e8gles tr\u00e8s rigides de l\u2019assurance-emploi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678523\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Ce n\u2019est qu\u2019un exemple de ce qui attend les travailleurs autonomes lorsqu\u2019ils cherchent \u00e0 obtenir une aide financi\u00e8re parce qu\u2019ils sont \u00e0 court d\u2019argent. Mais je voudrais reparler un peu de certains autres travailleurs qui sont oblig\u00e9s de travailler \u00e0 leur compte.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678524\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Les femmes sont particuli\u00e8rement d\u00e9savantag\u00e9es. Nous constatons que souvent, les femmes exercent des emplois contractuels, saisonniers, \u00e0 temps partiel ou autonomes. En fait, elles comptent parmi les principaux cr\u00e9ateurs d\u2019entreprises au Canada. Elles sont nombreuses dans ce secteur. Le r\u00e9gime d\u2019assurance-emploi actuel d\u00e9savantage les femmes. Seulement le tiers environ de celles qui cotisent au r\u00e9gime per\u00e7oivent des prestations. Il y a \u00e9galement des femmes qui occupent des emplois dits atypiques. Souvent, ces emplois atypiques ne leur permettent m\u00eame pas de cotiser \u00e0 l\u2019assurance-emploi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678525\" data-originallang=\"en\"> M\u00eame si nous accueillons favorablement les changements propos\u00e9s \u00e0 la Chambre en ce qui concerne les prestations sp\u00e9ciales et la possibilit\u00e9 de participer qui est offerte aux travailleurs, nous encourageons le gouvernement \u00e0 \u00e9largir la fa\u00e7on dont il examine la situation des travailleurs autonomes de fa\u00e7on \u00e0 leur assurer un filet de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678526\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Je voudrais parler bri\u00e8vement du fait que les n\u00e9o-d\u00e9mocrates ont toujours demand\u00e9 un bon nombre de changements \u00e0 la Loi sur l\u2019assurance-emploi. Nous avons constat\u00e9 l\u2019\u00e9rosion de l\u2019assurance-emploi depuis le milieu des ann\u00e9es 1990. Nous avons constat\u00e9 que beaucoup moins de travailleurs ont droit aux prestations. Nous avons vu le taux des prestations diminuer. Nous avons assist\u00e9 \u00e0 une r\u00e9duction du nombre de semaines de prestations.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678527\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Nous avons constat\u00e9 certaines autres anomalies dans le programme et j\u2019en ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 parl\u00e9 \u00e0 la Chambre. La fa\u00e7on dont le taux de ch\u00f4mage est calcul\u00e9 dans les r\u00e9gions pose un probl\u00e8me qui se r\u00e9percute directement sur le nombre de semaines de prestations que les gens peuvent obtenir.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678528\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Dans ma propre r\u00e9gion, notre taux de ch\u00f4mage est reli\u00e9 \u00e0 la ville de Vancouver. Bien entendu, quiconque conna\u00eet notre pays sait que l\u2019\u00eele de Vancouver a un march\u00e9 du travail tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rent de celui de la ville de Vancouver. Cela veut dire que les travailleurs de ma r\u00e9gion touchent beaucoup moins de semaines de prestations que le taux de ch\u00f4mage dans la r\u00e9gion ne le justifierait si le calcul \u00e9tait plus raisonnable.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678529\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Nous savons que la loi actuelle sur l\u2019assurance-emploi soul\u00e8ve des probl\u00e8mes importants. Nous avons \u00e9galement entendu des d\u00e9put\u00e9s parler des cotisations d\u2019assurance-emploi. Nous savons qu\u2019au fil des ans, les travailleurs et leurs employeurs ont vers\u00e9 des cotisations dans le fonds d\u2019assurance-emploi qui \u00e9tait avant le fonds d\u2019assurance-ch\u00f4mage.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678530\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous savons aussi que l'argent a \u00e9t\u00e9 siphonn\u00e9 pour payer la dette. Entre 54 et 57 milliards de dollars qui appartenaient aux travailleurs et \u00e0 leurs employeurs ont servi non pas \u00e0 constituer le filet de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale, non pas \u00e0 fournir une formation aux travailleurs, non pas \u00e0 accorder d'autres types de prestations qui aideraient un employeur \u00e0 devenir plus productif, mais bien \u00e0 garnir les coffres du gouvernement. Je dirais que dans tout autre endroit qu'ici, on appellerait probablement cela du vol.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678531\" data-originallang=\"en\">Lorsque les gens parlent des probl\u00e8mes de la caisse d'assurance-emploi et soutiennent qu'une modeste mesure s'adressant aux travailleurs ind\u00e9pendants ne suffit pas, je leur r\u00e9plique qu'il faut soutenir la mesure et encourager le gouvernement \u00e0 aller plus loin, \u00e0 faire en sorte que la caisse que les travailleurs alimentent serve \u00e0 payer des programmes qui soutiennent ces travailleurs et les entreprises pour lesquelles ils travaillent, \u00e0 examiner comment nous pouvons offrir davantage de prestations aux travailleurs ind\u00e9pendants et \u00e0 d\u00e9finir comment nous voyons cette caisse.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678532\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je sais que les n\u00e9o-d\u00e9mocrates et les syndicats ont fait beaucoup de bon travail. Je veux parler de changements qu'ils ont propos\u00e9s et qui pourraient servir dans l'\u00e9laboration d'une strat\u00e9gie sur l'emploi garantissant que les travailleurs ont des emplois bien r\u00e9mun\u00e9r\u00e9s. Ensuite, nous pourrions examiner le filet de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 social qui soutient les travailleurs lorsqu'ils ne trouvent pas de tels emplois. Je veux parler un peu de la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 d'avoir des emplois bien r\u00e9mun\u00e9r\u00e9s dans les secteurs manufacturier et forestier. Nous pouvons nous y prendre de diff\u00e9rentes mani\u00e8res pour y arriver.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678533\" data-originallang=\"en\">Tout d'abord, nous pouvons \u00e9laborer des strat\u00e9gies sectorielles portant, notamment, sur les investissements dans les secteurs manufacturier et forestier. Nous pouvons nous doter des moyens d'assurer la transformation des ressources ici m\u00eame, au Canada, et y ajouter le plus de valeur possible pour garder les emplois dans nos collectivit\u00e9s. Nous pouvons aussi nous efforcer d'emp\u00eacher les fermetures d'usines en y investissant et aider les entreprises \u00e0 moderniser leur \u00e9quipement pour qu'elles deviennent productives et efficientes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"1678534\" data-originallang=\"en\">En terminant, j'exhorte tous les d\u00e9put\u00e9s \u00e0 appuyer le projet de loi \u00e0 l'\u00e9tape de la deuxi\u00e8me lecture et \u00e0 le renvoyer \u00e0 un comit\u00e9 afin que nous discutions plus en profondeur des changements que nous devrions apporter \u00e0 la l\u00e9gislation sur l'assurance-emploi.</p>"
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