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{
"time": "2007-04-17 15:30:00",
"attribution": {
"en": "Mrs. Carole Lavall\u00e9e (Saint-Bruno\u2014Saint-Hubert, BQ)",
"fr": ""
},
"content": {
"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"550483\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Speaker, this is really not the NDP members' day. They are a pitiful sight. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550484\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> Not only did they demand this morning that we all vote twice, but they made us come back to vote because they had forgotten that they wanted to speak against the closure motion. We might have expected them to speak, because they were responsible for the 308 members of this House meeting this morning to vote. We took a half-hour of our time to come to the House to vote. And we might have expected them to speak again to motion 15. But they said nothing and they did nothing. They did not understand that this was the time for them to speak. So things are not going well for them now.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550485\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> Earlier, before question period, another colleague from the NDP had also not really understood that the Bloc Qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois did not support Bill <a data-HoCid=\"2725646\" href=\"/bills/39-1/C-46/\" title=\"An Act to provide for the resumption and continuation of railway operations\">C-46, An Act to provide for the resumption and continuation of railway operations</a>.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550486\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> As I said a moment ago, the Bloc Qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois does not support Bill C-46 in principle. I reiterated this earlier to another colleague from the NDP because I thought he might not have been listening. We know that the French to English interpretation services in the House are excellent. So the only reason why his colleague before him had not understood was undoubtedly because he was not listening. And now another colleague from the NDP is rising. Clearly they are having a bad day, so we are going to try to move on. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550487\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> On the question of CN's management, it is important to recall what they said when they addressed us at the Committee on Human Resources, Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities on February 8. In fact, it is important to note how the Vice-President and Chief Legal Officer of CN saw matters at that time. At the time, the situation was heating up at CN and the strike was in full swing. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550488\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> Of course, CN management spoke against the anti-scab bill. In fact, it said that \"this would mean a return to a system where any nationwide railway work stoppage would inevitably require government intervention\". They cannot be said to have had a lot of vision.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550489\" data-originallang=\"fr\">This is what the Vice-President of CN said: \"First, the commuter rail service in Toronto and Montreal would quickly grind to a halt.\" We know that this is not what happened. He said that it would lead to \"traffic jams and great inconvenience\". We know that this is not true and we have not seen great inconvenience.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550490\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> In short, CN management cannot be said to have had a lot of vision in these disputes. They have very little understanding of the consequences and repercussions that labour disputes in their company can have. So we can see why they have exhibited such a serious lack of respect in bargaining with their employees and the employees' representatives. </p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"550483\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, ce n'est vraiment pas la journ\u00e9e des d\u00e9put\u00e9s du NPD. Ils en font piti\u00e9. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550484\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Non seulement ce matin ont-ils exig\u00e9 de la part de tout le monde de proc\u00e9der \u00e0 deux votes, mais ils nous ont fait revenir pour voter parce qu'ils avaient oubli\u00e9 qu'ils voulaient s'exprimer contre la motion de cl\u00f4ture. Il aurait \u00e9t\u00e9 normal qu'ils s'expriment parce qu'ils \u00e9taient responsables du fait que les 308 d\u00e9put\u00e9s de cette Chambre se sont r\u00e9unis ce matin pour voter. On a pris une demi-heure de notre temps pour venir voter en Chambre. Ensuite, on s'attendait \u00e0 ce qu'ils s'expriment \u00e0 nouveau sur la motion n<sup>0</sup> 15. Cependant, ils n'ont rien dit et ils n'ont rien fait. Ils n'ont pas compris que c'\u00e9tait leur temps de parole. Alors, maintenant, cela ne va pas bien pour eux</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550485\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Plus t\u00f4t, avant la p\u00e9riode des questions, un autre coll\u00e8gue du NPD n'avait pas vraiment compris non plus que le Bloc qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois n'appuyait pas le projet de loi <a data-HoCid=\"2725646\" href=\"/bills/39-1/C-46/\" title=\"An Act to provide for the resumption and continuation of railway operations\">C-46, Loi pr\u00e9voyant la reprise et le maintien des services ferroviaires</a>. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550486\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Comme je le disais tout \u00e0 l'heure, le Bloc qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois n'est pas favorable au principe du projet de loi C-46. Je l'ai r\u00e9p\u00e9t\u00e9 plus t\u00f4t \u00e0 l'autre coll\u00e8gue du NPD parce que je croyais qu'il n'avait peut-\u00eatre pas \u00e9cout\u00e9. On sait qu'en Chambre, les services d'interpr\u00e9tation du fran\u00e7ais \u00e0 l'anglais sont excellents. Alors, la seule raison pour laquelle son coll\u00e8gue pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent n'avait pas compris, c'\u00e9tait sans doute parce qu'il n'avait pas \u00e9cout\u00e9. Voil\u00e0 qu'un autre coll\u00e8gue du NPD se l\u00e8ve. Il faut dire que ce n'est pas leur journ\u00e9e, alors on va essayer de passer outre. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550487\" data-originallang=\"fr\">En ce qui concerne la direction du CN, il est important de se rappeler ce qu'elle est venue nous dire au Comit\u00e9 des ressources humaines, du d\u00e9veloppement social et de la condition des personnes handicap\u00e9es, le 8 f\u00e9vrier dernier. En fait, il est important de constater comment le vice-pr\u00e9sident et le chef des affaires juridiques du CN voyaient les choses \u00e0 ce moment-l\u00e0. C'\u00e9tait quand m\u00eame au moment o\u00f9 les affaires brassaient pas mal au CN et o\u00f9 on \u00e9tait en pleine gr\u00e8ve.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550488\" data-originallang=\"fr\">\u00c9videmment, la direction du CN s'est exprim\u00e9e contre le projet de loi anti-briseurs de gr\u00e8ve. En fait, elle a dit: \u00ab Ce sera le retour \u00e0 un syst\u00e8me o\u00f9 les conflits de travail nationaux touchant les chemins de fer exigeront immanquablement l'intervention du Parlement \u00bb. On ne peut pas dire qu'ils ont eu beaucoup de vision.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550489\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Je cite d'ailleurs le vice-pr\u00e9sident du CN: \u00ab Tout d'abord, le service de transport dans les trains de banlieue \u00e0 Toronto et \u00e0 Montr\u00e9al serait vite interrompu.\u00bb On sait que ce n'est pas ce qui s'est produit. Il disait que cela causerait \u00ab la saturation du r\u00e9seau routier ainsi que de graves probl\u00e8mes. \u00bb On sait que c'est faux et on n'a pas vu de graves probl\u00e8mes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"550490\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Bref, on ne peut pas dire que la direction du CN a eu beaucoup de vision dans ces conflits. Il a une tr\u00e8s mauvaise connaissance des cons\u00e9quences et des r\u00e9percussions que peuvent avoir des conflits de travail chez eux. Alors, on comprend pourquoi la n\u00e9gociation avec ses travailleurs et les repr\u00e9sentants des travailleurs s'est faite dans un aussi grand manque de respect. </p>"
},
"url": "/debates/2007/4/17/carole-lavallee-5/",
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"h1": {
"en": "Government Orders",
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},
"h2": {
"en": "Railway continuation Act, 2007",
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