Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2007-11-22 12:10:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Hon. Geoff Regan (Halifax West, Lib.)",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"780911\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Speaker, my hon. colleague's comments were very thoughtful. I know he is very knowledgeable on issues related to justice, including youth justice, and I certainly enjoyed listening to his views and comments, as well as those of the members who asked questions and added their thoughts to his.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780912\" data-originallang=\"en\">The issue of youth justice and of the Youth Criminal Justice Act is one of concern in Nova Scotia, particularly after the very sad and tragic death of Theresa McEvoy, a teacher who was killed by a young offender out joyriding. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780913\" data-originallang=\"en\">My hon. colleagues referred to the Nunn commission which followed that event. Justice Merlin Nunn of Nova Scotia was asked by the provincial government to look at the whole situation, the administration of youth justice, the act itself, and the services provided for youth in a variety of manners, particularly youth at risk or youth who may be involved with the justice system, and recommend a series of changes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780914\" data-originallang=\"en\">Justice Nunn, as we have heard, made a lot of recommendations relating to the programs that should be available for rehabilitation, dealing with the issues of poverty and other matters of that sort. He also said that the Youth Criminal Justice Act works very well. He praised it and said that in the vast majority of cases, in relation to the great number of young people who come in contact with the law, the act works extremely well. However, in cases of repeat offenders, particularly with serious crimes, there is a need for changes.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780915\" data-originallang=\"en\">Unfortunately, while the government addresses a little of that, it does not address most of the recommendations that Justice Nunn brought, not just in relation to the whole range of issues but in relation to amendments to the act. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780916\" data-originallang=\"en\">He had a series of recommendations for changes to the act, and I will get to those in a few minutes, which the government has completely ignored. I hope that when this goes to committee as I think it will, members will consider amending it to provide for the kinds of changes that Justice Nunn has very wisely recommended.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780917\" data-originallang=\"en\">This became an issue following the McEvoy case and other occurrences that have happened in Nova Scotia, particularly in the Halifax area. I, like other members, have received emails and phone calls related to issues concerning crime. In fact, in my fall householder, the mail-out to people who live in my riding, I placed a short survey so that I could hear from my constituents about their concerns on this issue.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780918\" data-originallang=\"en\">There was a really significant response from the community. People were very eager to share their thoughts and feelings on what should be done by the Government of Canada to help to mitigate crime in our country. The overwhelming response was to change the Youth Criminal Justice Act, but also to fight poverty and get at the underlying social problems that, as Justice Nunn said, are so often the root causes of crime.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780919\" data-originallang=\"en\">When I hosted my 78th \u201cLet's talk\u201d meeting, a series of local meetings that I hold in my riding, at the beginning of this month I had guests from a variety of areas of the criminal justice system, including the Halifax regional municipality's chief of police. I was very pleased that he could attend. There were defence lawyers, a retired police officer, probation officers, members of families of victims of crime, including, very sadly, three families who have had loved ones murdered. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780920\" data-originallang=\"en\">It was very powerful to hear their words and concerns. It was interesting to note they were not just saying that we should lock up young criminals and throw away the key. They were certainly concerned that the system should function well, that there be good investigation and prosecution of crimes, and proper systems of punishment, deterrence and rehabilitation. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780921\" data-originallang=\"en\">However, these same people were also concerned that we address the causes of crime, such as poverty and other kinds of social problems in our country, whether it be fetal alcohol syndrome, as an example, that are other causes of crime.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780922\" data-originallang=\"en\">I remember that the parents of Jonathan Reader, who tragically was found murdered on the corner of Lacewood Drive and Dunbrack Street in my riding, were present and argued that the first thing we have to do is to be good neighbours, to be aware of what is going on in our neighbourhoods, to keep an eye on things, to know who our neighbours are and be in touch with them. W must be more aware of what is going on, so that we have more of a texture and fabric of a society that will be strong, will prevent these kinds of things from arising, and prevent people from going in the wrong direction as much as possible.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780923\" data-originallang=\"en\">We also heard at this meeting that the role of the federal government, in their view, was to integrate the expertise and research that has been done on so many of these areas, and to get different levels of government working together in a much better way.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780924\" data-originallang=\"en\">People are certainly impressed with the knowledge and research that has been done in relation to crime and youth crime. I saw that they were clearly frustrated with the weak cooperation they found between the different levels of government, between the administration of justice, the police, the crown prosecutors and the people who make the laws, the Department of Justice, the drafters of the laws in Ottawa, that do not always respond to the reality on the ground or on the street, so to speak. That was clearly a concern. Also, the need to support the kinds of community groups that provide programming for youth that is so important in getting kids off the streets and keeping them active and worthwhile, and in meaningful activities where they are growing and learning and developing in a positive way.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780925\" data-originallang=\"en\">There is no question that I also heard that youth need to be held accountable for their actions through meaningful consequences, through rehabilitative change, and through rehabilitative programs. I do not disagree at all that there needs to be changes to the Youth Criminal Justice Act as Justice Nunn has recommended, particularly to deal with those youths who are repeat violent offenders, the more serious offenders.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780926\" data-originallang=\"en\">One of the problems I see with this bill is it does not address an absolutely key recommendation of Justice Nunn's commission and his report, which said that we have to amend the definition of violent offender. At the moment the act treats violent offenders differently than other offenders, and with good reason. The majority of youth are not involved in serious violent crimes and should not be treated as if they are.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780927\" data-originallang=\"en\">Where they are it is a different matter and should be treated seriously. The problem in the case of Theresa McEvoy was that the young joyrider had stolen a car and was driving the car. That was not treated as a violent offence, but clearly what happened to her was violent and reckless. It should be treated in a very serious manner. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780928\" data-originallang=\"en\">I think Justice Nunn had a very good point in relation to how that should be changed. We do not see any sign of that in this bill and that is very disappointing. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780929\" data-originallang=\"en\">Also, enhancing measures for pre-trial detention. It is important that those be paired with the enormous increases in the resources available to the courts to deal with these young people. Currently, they can wait for up to a year and longer for sentencing. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780930\" data-originallang=\"en\">If they are on remand and being held waiting for a trial and they have not even been found guilty yet, that is a problem. That is why judges want to have them left with a responsible person, such as their parent for example. What the government has again failed to do is deal with recommendations that Justice Nunn made in terms of what happens, for example, when a responsible person such as a parent says, \u201cLook, I agreed back in court a few weeks ago to be responsible for this person and I made an undertaking to look after this and make sure he or she does not get into trouble, but now I've got a problem. I can't control him or her and I want to give up. I want to be released from my undertaking\u201d. There is not a good system now for when that happens.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780931\" data-originallang=\"en\">The judge recommended that system be put in the act but the government has failed to do so. Again, another failure of the government to respond to the recommendations by Justice Nunn.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780932\" data-originallang=\"en\">I do not see why the government could not understand what was being recommended and see that those were good recommendations, reasonable, sensible changes to this act which would have made a real difference and helped to prevent another death such as Theresa McEvoy's.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780933\" data-originallang=\"en\">One of the things we heard from a retired police officer at the meeting I had was that \u201cyoung people involved in crime are victims of their lives\u201d. It is the nature of their lives. This is about poverty which I mentioned earlier. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780934\" data-originallang=\"en\">In fact, one of his main concerns, and he is a retired police officer who has worked with people and crime all his life, was that the underlying issue of poverty remains unresolved. Although there was a good understanding that people living in poverty are not the only people involved in crime, they are a big proportion of the people who are involved. That is why I am so pleased that our leader, the Liberal leader, has come out with a whole series of recommendations and a platform proposal in relation to dealing with poverty.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780935\" data-originallang=\"en\">I am sure many members in this House will agree that we have to address this problem in our country. We can do better in this regard. I think the plan that our leader has put forward is a good measure in that regard. I also think that we need to make changes to this bill to improve it along the lines of what Justice Nunn has recommended.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780936\" data-originallang=\"en\">If we do that and combine it with real efforts to fight poverty, we can make real progress.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"780911\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, mon coll\u00e8gue a tenu des propos tr\u00e8s r\u00e9fl\u00e9chis. Je sais qu'il s'y conna\u00eet dans le domaine du droit, notamment en ce qui concerne la justice pour les jeunes, et j'ai \u00e9cout\u00e9 avec plaisir ses observations, tout comme celles des d\u00e9put\u00e9s qui ont pos\u00e9 des questions et ajout\u00e9 leur grain de sel.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780912\" data-originallang=\"en\">La justice pour les jeunes et la Loi sur le syst\u00e8me de justice p\u00e9nale pour les adolescents sont une source d'inqui\u00e9tude en Nouvelle-\u00c9cosse, surtout depuis que Theresa McEvoy, une enseignante, a \u00e9t\u00e9 tu\u00e9e dans des circonstances tr\u00e8s tristes et tragiques par un jeune contrevenant au volant d'une automobile vol\u00e9e. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780913\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mes coll\u00e8gues ont mentionn\u00e9 la Commission Nunn form\u00e9 \u00e0 la suite de ce d\u00e9c\u00e8s. En effet, le gouvernement de la Nouvelle-\u00c9cosse a charg\u00e9 le juge Merlin Nunn d'examiner la situation dans son ensemble \u2014 l'administration de la justice pour les jeunes, la loi proprement dite et les divers services offerts aux jeunes, et plus particuli\u00e8rement aux jeunes \u00e0 risque ou ceux qui ont des d\u00e9m\u00eal\u00e9s avec la justice \u2014 et de recommander des changements \u00e0 apporter.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780914\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le juge Nunn a, comme on le sait, formul\u00e9 de nombreuses recommandations relativement aux programmes qui devraient \u00eatre offerts en r\u00e9ponse \u00e0 des probl\u00e8mes tels que le besoin de r\u00e9adaptation ou encore la pauvret\u00e9. Il a \u00e9galement affirm\u00e9 que la Loi sur le syst\u00e8me de justice p\u00e9nale pour les adolescents fonctionne tr\u00e8s bien. Il en a fait l'\u00e9loge, signalant que, pour un grand nombre de jeunes qui ont des d\u00e9m\u00eal\u00e9s avec la justice, la loi fonctionne la plupart du temps extr\u00eamement bien. Mais pour ce qui touche les r\u00e9cidivistes, surtout ceux qui ont commis des crimes graves, des changements s'imposent. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780915\" data-originallang=\"en\">Malheureusement, le gouvernement apporte certains changements, mais il ne donne pas suite \u00e0 la plupart des recommandations du juge Nunn ayant trait non seulement \u00e0 une vaste gamme de probl\u00e8mes, mais \u00e9galement \u00e0 des modifications \u00e0 apporter \u00e0 la loi.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780916\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le juge a propos\u00e9 toute une s\u00e9rie de modifications dont je parlerai un peu plus tard et dont le gouvernement n'a pas tenu compte du tout. J'esp\u00e8re que, lorsque le projet de loi sera renvoy\u00e9 \u00e0 un comit\u00e9 comme je crois qu'il le sera, les membres du comit\u00e9 songeront \u00e0 l'amender pour tenir compte des changements que le juge Nunn a eu la grande sagesse de recommander. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780917\" data-originallang=\"en\">C'est devenu un enjeu \u00e0 la suite de l'affaire McEvoy et d'autres histoires survenues en Nouvelle-\u00c9cosse, en particulier dans la r\u00e9gion de Halifax. Comme d'autres d\u00e9put\u00e9s, j'ai re\u00e7u des courriels et des appels t\u00e9l\u00e9phoniques concernant la criminalit\u00e9. Dans le bulletin parlementaire automnal que j'ai envoy\u00e9 aux r\u00e9sidants de ma circonscription, j'ai inclus un court sondage afin de conna\u00eetre les pr\u00e9occupations des gens \u00e0 ce sujet.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780918\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les gens ont r\u00e9pondu en grand nombre. Ils ont communiqu\u00e9 avec enthousiasme leurs points de vue et leurs sentiments concernant ce que devrait faire le gouvernement du Canada pour att\u00e9nuer la criminalit\u00e9 au pays. La r\u00e9ponse dominante a \u00e9t\u00e9 qu'il convient de modifier la Loi sur le syst\u00e8me de justice p\u00e9nale pour les adolescents, mais aussi de lutter contre la pauvret\u00e9 et de s'attaquer aux probl\u00e8mes sociaux sous-jacents qui, selon le juge Nunn, sont trop souvent \u00e0 l'origine de la criminalit\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780919\" data-originallang=\"en\">Au d\u00e9but du mois, \u00e0 l'occasion de ma 78<sup>e</sup> r\u00e9union intitul\u00e9e \u00ab Let's talk \u00bb \u2014 s\u00e9rie d'assembl\u00e9es locales que j'organise dans ma circonscription \u2014 j'ai re\u00e7u des invit\u00e9s de tout un \u00e9ventail de secteurs li\u00e9s \u00e0 la justice p\u00e9nale, entre autres le chef de police de la municipalit\u00e9 r\u00e9gionale de Halifax. J'ai \u00e9t\u00e9 ravi qu'il puisse venir. Il y avait des avocats de la d\u00e9fense, un policier \u00e0 la retraite, des agents de probation et des membres de familles de victimes de crimes, notamment trois familles dont un \u00eatre cher a \u00e9t\u00e9 tu\u00e9, ce qui est tr\u00e8s triste.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780920\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ce fut tr\u00e8s convainquant de les entendre exprimer leurs id\u00e9es et leurs pr\u00e9occupations. Fait int\u00e9ressant, ils ne se sont pas content\u00e9s de dire que nous devrions emprisonner les jeunes criminels pour de longues p\u00e9riodes. Ces personnes se soucient que le syst\u00e8me fonctionne bien, que les enqu\u00eates et les poursuites en mati\u00e8re de crime se d\u00e9roulent bien et qu'on dispose de syst\u00e8mes ad\u00e9quats de punition, de dissuasion et de r\u00e9adaptation.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780921\" data-originallang=\"en\">Toutefois, ces m\u00eames personnes souhaitent \u00e9galement que nous nous attaquions aux causes de la criminalit\u00e9, comme la pauvret\u00e9 et d'autres probl\u00e8mes sociaux, par exemple le syndrome d'alcoolisation foetale.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780922\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les parents de Jonathan Reader, qui a tragiquement \u00e9t\u00e9 assassin\u00e9 et qu'on a retrouv\u00e9 au coin de la promenade Lacewood et de la rue Dunbrack dans ma circonscription, \u00e9taient pr\u00e9sents. Selon eux, la premi\u00e8re chose \u00e0 faire est de se conduire en bons voisins, d'\u00eatre au courant de ce qui se passe dans nos quartiers, d'exercer une surveillance, de savoir qui sont nos voisins et d'avoir des contacts avec eux. Nous devons \u00eatre davantage au courant de ce qui se passe. Il faut qu'il y ait une bonne coh\u00e9sion sociale, qu'on pr\u00e9vienne ce genre de choses, qu'on emp\u00eache le plus possible les gens d'emprunter la mauvaise voie.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780923\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les gens qui ont assist\u00e9 \u00e0 cette r\u00e9union nous ont \u00e9galement dit que, \u00e0 leur avis, le gouvernement f\u00e9d\u00e9ral devait int\u00e9grer les connaissances et les \u00e9tudes entourant un grand nombre de ces domaines, et amener les diff\u00e9rents niveaux de gouvernement \u00e0 collaborer beaucoup mieux. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780924\" data-originallang=\"en\">Les gens sont certes impressionn\u00e9s par les connaissances concernant la criminalit\u00e9, notamment la criminalit\u00e9 chez les adolescents, et par les \u00e9tudes men\u00e9es dans ce domaine. J'ai constat\u00e9 qu'ils \u00e9taient tr\u00e8s frustr\u00e9s par le peu de collaboration qu'ils ont remarqu\u00e9 entre les diff\u00e9rents niveaux de gouvernement, la magistrature, les services policiers, les procureurs de la Couronne, le minist\u00e8re de la Justice et ceux qui, \u00e0 Ottawa, \u00e9laborent des lois qui ne tiennent pas toujours compte de la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 sur le terrain ou dans la rue. Cela les pr\u00e9occupait vivement, de m\u00eame que la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 d'appuyer les groupes communautaires qui offrent aux adolescents des programmes extr\u00eamement importants pour les sortir de la rue, les garder actifs et dignes, et les faire participer \u00e0 des activit\u00e9s enrichissantes o\u00f9 ils peuvent \u00e9voluer, apprendre et s'\u00e9panouir. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780925\" data-originallang=\"en\">Par ailleurs, on a \u00e9galement dit que les adolescents doivent \u00eatre tenus responsables de leurs actes par des cons\u00e9quences s\u00e9rieuses, la r\u00e9\u00e9ducation et des programmes de r\u00e9insertion sociale. Je suis tout \u00e0 fait d'accord pour dire que des modifications s'imposent \u00e0 la Loi sur le syst\u00e8me de justice p\u00e9nale pour les adolescents, conform\u00e9ment aux recommandations du juge Nunn, particuli\u00e8rement dans le cas des r\u00e9cidivistes violents, soit les d\u00e9linquants qui commettent des crimes plus graves. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780926\" data-originallang=\"en\">Un des probl\u00e8mes que je vois dans ce projet de loi, c'est qu'il ne traite pas d'une recommandation absolument cl\u00e9 que la commission du juge Nunn a formul\u00e9e dans son rapport, \u00e0 savoir que nous devons modifier la d\u00e9finition de d\u00e9linquant violent. Actuellement, la loi traite les d\u00e9linquants violents diff\u00e9remment des autres d\u00e9linquants, et avec raison. La majorit\u00e9 des adolescents ne commettent pas de graves crimes violents et ne devraient pas \u00eatre trait\u00e9s comme s'ils \u00e9taient violents. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780927\" data-originallang=\"en\">S'ils ne sont pas violents, il faudrait tout de m\u00eame les punir s\u00e9v\u00e8rement. Le probl\u00e8me dans le cas de Theresa McEvoy, c'est que l'adolescent avait vol\u00e9 une voiture pour se balader et il \u00e9tait au volant. Il ne s'agissait pas d'une infraction avec violence, mais ce qui est arriv\u00e9 \u00e0 Theresa \u00e9tait manifestement violent et irresponsable. Ce cas devrait \u00eatre trait\u00e9 tr\u00e8s s\u00e9rieusement. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780928\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'estime que le juge Nunn a fait valoir un argument excellent en faveur de la modification de cette d\u00e9finition. Nous ne voyons aucune indication de cela dans ce projet de loi, et c'est tr\u00e8s d\u00e9cevant. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780929\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Il y a aussi l\u2019am\u00e9lioration des mesures relatives \u00e0 la de d\u00e9tention avant proc\u00e8s. Il est important d\u2019associer \u00e0 ces mesures l\u2019augmentation consid\u00e9rable des ressources mises \u00e0 la disposition des tribunaux pour s\u2019occuper de ces jeunes. \u00c0 l\u2019heure actuelle, les jeunes peuvent attendre jusqu\u2019\u00e0 un an et plus le prononc\u00e9 de la sentence. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780930\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Si un jeune est en d\u00e9tention provisoire et en attente d\u2019un proc\u00e8s et qu\u2019il n\u2019a m\u00eame pas \u00e9t\u00e9 reconnu coupable encore, c\u2019est un probl\u00e8me. C\u2019est pourquoi les juges veulent que le jeune soit confi\u00e9 \u00e0 une personne responsable, un parent par exemple. Le gouvernement a encore omis de suivre les recommandations du juge Nunn en ce qui a trait \u00e0 ce qui se passe, par exemple, quand la personne responsable, le parent disons, dit: \u00ab Regardez, devant le tribunal, il y a quelques semaines, j\u2019ai accept\u00e9 d\u2019\u00eatre responsable de ce jeune; j\u2019ai pris l\u2019engagement de veiller sur lui et de voir \u00e0 ce qu\u2019il ne se mette pas dans le p\u00e9trin, mais maintenant j\u2019ai un probl\u00e8me. Je n\u2019arrive pas \u00e0 le contr\u00f4ler et j'abdique. Je voudrais me d\u00e9lier de cet engagement. \u00bb Pour l'instant, on ne sait trop comment r\u00e9agir dans un tel cas.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780931\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Le juge a recommand\u00e9 d\u2019inscrire dans la loi une fa\u00e7on de proc\u00e9der dans un tel cas, mais le gouvernement ne l\u2019a pas fait. Encore l\u00e0, le gouvernement n\u2019a pas donn\u00e9 suite aux recommandations du juge Nunn.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780932\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Je ne comprends pas que le gouvernement n'a pu saisir la teneur des recommandations ni constater qu'il s'agissait de modifications raisonnables et logiques qu'il pouvait apporter \u00e0 la loi s'il voulait vraiment changer les choses et pr\u00e9venir une autre mort comme celle de Theresa McEvoy.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780933\" data-originallang=\"en\"> \u00c0 la r\u00e9union \u00e0 laquelle j\u2019ai assist\u00e9, nous avons notamment entendu un policier \u00e0 la retraite dire que les jeunes qui sont impliqu\u00e9s dans des crimes sont victimes de leur propre vie. C\u2019est la nature de leur vie qui est en cause. Il s\u2019agit ici de la pauvret\u00e9 dont j\u2019ai parl\u00e9 pr\u00e9c\u00e9demment. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780934\" data-originallang=\"en\"> D\u2019ailleurs, une des principales pr\u00e9occupations de ce policier \u00e0 la retraite, qui a travaill\u00e9 toute sa vie \u00e0 collaborer avec les gens et \u00e0 lutter contre le crime, c\u2019est que le probl\u00e8me sous-jacent de la pauvret\u00e9 reste entier. Bien s\u00fbr, les gens qui vivent dans la pauvret\u00e9 ne sont pas les seuls \u00e0 \u00eatre impliqu\u00e9s dans des crimes, mais ils en repr\u00e9sentent tout de m\u00eame un fort pourcentage. C\u2019est pourquoi je suis si heureux que notre chef, au Parti lib\u00e9ral, ait formul\u00e9 toute une s\u00e9rie de recommandations et propos\u00e9 un programme de lutte contre la pauvret\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780935\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Je suis certain que les d\u00e9put\u00e9s seront nombreux \u00e0 reconna\u00eetre qu\u2019il faut s\u2019attaquer \u00e0 ce probl\u00e8me au Canada. Nous pouvons faire mieux \u00e0 ce chapitre. Je pense que le programme que notre chef a pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 est excellent. Je crois aussi qu\u2019il nous faut apporter des amendements \u00e0 ce projet de loi afin de l\u2019am\u00e9liorer dans le sens des recommandations du juge Nunn.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"780936\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Si nous le faisons tout en consentant de v\u00e9ritables efforts pour lutter contre la pauvret\u00e9, nous ferons d'immenses progr\u00e8s. </p>"
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