Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2006-11-09 13:50:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. David Tilson (Dufferin\u2014Caledon, CPC)",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"259258\" data-originallang=\"en\">Mr. Speaker, my colleague, the hon. member for <a data-HoCid=\"78373\" href=\"/politicians/284/\" title=\"Myron Thompson\">Wild Rose</a>, raised the issue of how the Bloc Qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois argument disregards interest in the victim. That is an excellent point. We on this side have raised that many times and of course the Bloc has responded by saying that not enough money has been given to victim organizations. That is not what this legislation is all about.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"259259\" data-originallang=\"en\">This legislation says that the third time someone is convicted, not charged but convicted, for a very serious offence the onus is on the convicted person to show why he or she is not going to be a dangerous offender. That is what it is all about. It has nothing to do with all the other garbage that the Bloc Qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois is talking about.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"259260\" data-originallang=\"en\">I would like to zero in on one of the areas that my colleague from the Bloc raised when he said it is going to cost too much money because there is no room in the jails to put these terrible people. I assume from that he is saying, we should let them go. I do not think the member realizes what the whole purpose of this is about. It is about, first, a penalty and, second, protecting the public and the victim.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"259261\" data-originallang=\"en\">I ask the member to reconsider his position and support this legislation.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"259258\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur le Pr\u00e9sident, le d\u00e9put\u00e9 de <a data-HoCid=\"78373\" href=\"/politicians/284/\" title=\"Myron Thompson\">Wild Rose</a> a mentionn\u00e9 que les arguments du Bloc qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois ne tiennent pas compte de l'int\u00e9r\u00eat qui doit \u00eatre port\u00e9 \u00e0 la victime. C'est un excellent point. De ce c\u00f4t\u00e9-ci de la Chambre, nous avons soulev\u00e9 cet aspect \u00e0 plusieurs reprises. Bien entendu, chaque fois, le Bloc r\u00e9pondait en disant que les organisations de victimes ne recevaient pas suffisamment d'argent. Ce n'est pas l'objet de cette mesure l\u00e9gislative.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"259259\" data-originallang=\"en\">En effet, le projet de loi dit seulement que, lorsqu'une personne est reconnue coupable, pas condamn\u00e9e, mais bien reconnue coupable d'une grave infraction, c'est \u00e0 elle de d\u00e9montrer pourquoi elle ne devrait pas \u00eatre consid\u00e9r\u00e9e comme un d\u00e9linquant dangereux. C'est tout. Le projet de loi n'a rien \u00e0 voir avec toutes les foutaises dont parle le Bloc qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"259260\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'aimerai parler plus pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment d'un des aspects que le d\u00e9put\u00e9 du Bloc a soulev\u00e9s en disant que la mise en oeuvre du projet de loi co\u00fbterait trop cher, car il n'y a pas de place dans les prisons pour y incarc\u00e9rer ces terribles personnes. Je pr\u00e9sume qu'il veut simplement dire que nous devrions leur rendre leur libert\u00e9. Je ne pense pas que le d\u00e9put\u00e9 saisisse vraiment le but du projet de loi. Ce dont il s'agit, c'est, premi\u00e8rement, d'une peine, et, deuxi\u00e8mement, de la protection du public et de la victime.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"259261\" data-originallang=\"en\">Par cons\u00e9quent, je demande donc au d\u00e9put\u00e9 de r\u00e9\u00e9valuer sa position et d'appuyer le projet de loi.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/debates/2006/11/9/david-tilson-1/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/david-tilson/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/1360/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "1773190",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Criminal Code",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2006/11/9/",
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