Speech (House debate)

{
    "time": "2004-05-10 13:50:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Hon. Don Boudria",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p>Mr. Speaker, I never suggested that the number was that which the hon. member said. I only suggested that the basis for the argument in the previous speaker's comments was not applicable. The hon. member can always review what I said. He does not have to believe it. He only has to read <em>Hansard</em> , which presumably he will do later.</p>\n<p>The hon. member was asking implicitly, why are we advancing with this bill given that some first nations are not supportive of it? The answer is that delays in approving this bill will be at a significant cost for those communities that are anxious to use it to advance the development of their communities. They have prepared for this; they have been working for this. It places quite a burden on them.</p>\n<p>Given that it is elective, the hon. member is not, in my view, correct in his failure to support the legislation. But of course, he is entitled to his opinion, as I am entitled to mine. I will recognize that. Additionally, the government is honouring its commitment to first nations, which have worked long and hard to remove the barriers of development in their communities.</p>\n<p>In addition, I want to say to the hon. member that it is not an either/or proposition because it does not preclude the government from working cooperatively with different groups of first nations in order to advance other initiatives.</p>\n<p>I want to get back to the resolutions of the AFN in respect of the proposed first nations fiscal and statistical management act since its introduction. There has only been one resolution in which Bill C-23 has been mentioned since introduction in December 2002, and that is the vote that took place on October 8, 2003--perhaps that is the one the hon. member was referring to--at the Special Chiefs Assembly at the Squamish Nation.</p>\n<p>He referred to the fact that it had been held in B.C., so presumably that is what he was referring to. It was an omnibus resolution meant to deal with Bills C-6, C-7 and C-19, now modified as <a href=\"/bills/873/\" class=\"related_link legislation\" title=\"An Act to provide for real property taxation powers of first nations, to create a First Nations Tax Commission, First Nations Financial Management Board, First Nations Finance Authority and First Nations Statistical Institute and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">Bill C-23</a>.</p>\n<p>The resolution called for the Chiefs and Special Assembly to, first, reject <a href=\"/bills/856/\" class=\"related_link legislation\" title=\"An Act respecting assisted human reproduction and related research\">Bill C-6</a>. In other words, they themselves produced a motion to reject <a href=\"/bills/856/\" class=\"related_link legislation\" title=\"An Act respecting assisted human reproduction and related research\">Bill C-6</a>, reject <a href=\"/bills/857/\" class=\"related_link legislation\" title=\"An Act to amend certain Acts of Canada, and to enact measures for implementing the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention, in order to enhance public safety\">Bill C-7</a>, and support <a href=\"/bills/869/\" class=\"related_link legislation\" title=\"An Act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act and the Criminal Code\">Bill C-19</a>. The three elements combined were in the same motion.The results of the vote were: 109 opposed; 65 for; two abstained; and 52 did not vote. But that had to do with rejecting two items and supporting one, in the same motion.</p>\n<p>For the hon. member to state that all this is somehow equated with <a href=\"/bills/869/\" class=\"related_link legislation\" title=\"An Act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act and the Criminal Code\">Bill C-19</a>, now <a href=\"/bills/873/\" class=\"related_link legislation\" title=\"An Act to provide for real property taxation powers of first nations, to create a First Nations Tax Commission, First Nations Financial Management Board, First Nations Finance Authority and First Nations Statistical Institute and to make consequential amendments to other Acts\">Bill C-23</a>, is not totally factual. Neither he nor I can speculate as to the exact quantity of votes that there were for each item that we have here.</p>",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "url": "/debates/2004/5/10/don-boudria-2/",
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    "h1": {
        "en": "Government Orders",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "First Nations Fiscal and Statistical Management Act",
        "fr": ""
    },
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