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{
    "time": "2002-10-08 17:45:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Steve Mahoney",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p>Madam Speaker, normally one gives the answer he or she wants to give to the question and does not answer the question. I will answer the member's question by giving him two examples of actual savings that have occurred.</p>\n<p>Sterling Pulp Chemicals Limited has reduced greenhouse gas emissions by almost 95% in its facility in Buckingham, Quebec by turning waste into fuel. After it made an initial investment of $1.1 million this company now enjoys a $2.28 million per year savings in lower energy costs. That is number one.</p>\n<p>Number two, British Petroleum and Royal Dutch Shell have made long term commitments to make the transition out of fossil fuel, which is what we are talking about. They are spending large amounts of money on renewable energy. BP, whose new slogan is \u201cBeyond petroleum\u201d, has reduced its greenhouse gas emissions by nine megatonnes in just three years and has added $650 million U.S. to the value of its operation through energy efficiency.</p>\n<p>These are facts. These are from the private sector. These are companies that have taken the lead. They are not sticking their heads in the sand and saying, \u201cWe are not part of the problem\u201d. Instead they are saying, \u201cWe want to be part of the solution\u201d.</p>\n<p>Everybody should be honest and recognize that it is not the melting of the ice cap that has led to the problem we are facing with climate change but in fact it is human activity. We should change it, not because it is patriotic, but because we owe it to our kids to change it. The first way to change it is to start admitting there is a problem, which is exactly what we have done by signing the Kyoto protocol.</p>",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "url": "/debates/2002/10/8/steve-mahoney-2/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/4630/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/2599/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "",
    "h1": {
        "en": "Speech from the Throne",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "h2": {
        "en": "Resumption of debate on Address in Reply",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "document_url": "/debates/2002/10/8/",
    "related": {
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    }
}