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"time": "2019-02-21 08:50:00",
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"en": "Mr. Jerome Berthelette (Assistant Auditor General, Performance Audit, Office of the Auditor General)",
"fr": "M. Jerome Berthelette (v\u00e9rificateur g\u00e9n\u00e9ral adjoint, Audit de performance, Bureau du v\u00e9rificateur g\u00e9n\u00e9ral)"
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"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"5807398\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Thank you, Mr. Chair, for this opportunity to discuss our fall 2018 report on connectivity in rural and remote areas. Joining me at the table is Philippe Le Goff, the principal responsible for the audit. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807399\" data-originallang=\"en\">This audit focused on whether Innovation, Science, and Economic Development Canada and the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, according to their respective roles and responsibilities, monitored the state of connectivity and developed and implemented a plan to meet the connectivity needs of Canadians in remote and rural areas.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807400\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Over the past 12 years, detailed examinations of the state of broadband access in Canada have included recommendations that the federal government lead the creation of a national broadband strategy. However, at the time we finished our audit, the government had still not agreed to take that step.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807401\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada indicated that it was reluctant to establish a strategy with an objective that could not be reached with the available funding. The department had continued to follow an approach that expanded broadband coverage to underserved parts of the country according to when funds were available.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807402\" data-originallang=\"fr\">This approach left people in rural and remote parts of the country with less access to important online services, such as education, banking, and health care, and without information about when they could expect to have better access.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807403\" data-originallang=\"fr\">On October 26, 2018, the <a data-HoCid=\"214319\" href=\"/politicians/navdeep-bains/\" title=\"Navdeep Bains\">Minister of Innovation, Science and Economic Development</a> announced that the federal, provincial, and territorial ministers for innovation and economic development agreed to make broadband a priority and to develop a long-term strategy to improve access to high-speed Internet services for all Canadians.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807404\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Ministers committed to a goal of establishing universal access to Internet speeds of 50 megabits per second download and 10 megabits per second upload.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807405\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Chair, with respect to the current state of connectivity in Canada, we found that the department relied on complete and accurate data to inform policy-making aimed at addressing the connectivity gap in rural and remote areas.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807406\" data-originallang=\"en\"> In 2016, the government launched its connect to innovate funding program to bring high-speed Internet to 300 rural and remote communities in Canada. We examined whether the department designed and managed this program to maximize the value for taxpayers. We found that the department did not implement the program in a way that ensured the maximum broadband expansion for the public money spent. The program did not include a way to mitigate the risk that government funds might displace private sector funds.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807407\" data-originallang=\"en\">We also found that the department did not provide key information to potential applicants for funding under the program. As a result, some applicants had to invest more effort in preparing their proposals, and all applicants lacked full knowledge of the basis for selecting funding proposals. For example, there were a number of considerations for selecting projects, but the application guide did not specify the relative weight of each criterion used in the project selection process. Also, projects were less likely to be funded if they did not align with provincial and territorial priorities. However, these priorities were not made public. In our view, the department should have made the weights and priorities public.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807408\" data-originallang=\"en\">Many Canadians in rural and remote areas had to rely on fixed wireless broadband solutions. We found that small Internet service providers did not have sufficient access to high-quality spectrum to support broadband deployment in rural and remote areas. For example, the department auctioned spectrum licences for geographic areas that were too large for smaller service providers to bid on. The secondary market for unused spectrum did not function well, partly because licensees had little business incentive to make unused spectrum available for subordinate licensing. In addition, the information on unused spectrum was not readily available to interested Internet providers.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807409\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada and the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission have agreed with our six recommendations, and we understand that the department has prepared a detailed action plan.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807410\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Chair, this concludes my opening remarks.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807411\" data-originallang=\"fr\">We would be pleased to answer any questions the committee may have.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807412\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Thank you.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"5807398\" data-originallang=\"en\">Monsieur le pr\u00e9sident, je vous remercie de nous donner l'occasion de discuter de notre rapport de l'automne 2018 sur la connectivit\u00e9 des r\u00e9gions rurales et \u00e9loign\u00e9es. Je suis accompagn\u00e9 de M. Philippe Le Goff, le directeur principal charg\u00e9 de cet audit.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807399\" data-originallang=\"en\">Cet audit visait \u00e0 d\u00e9terminer si Innovation, Sciences et D\u00e9veloppement \u00e9conomique Canada et le Conseil de la radiodiffusion et des t\u00e9l\u00e9communications canadiennes avaient, selon leurs responsabilit\u00e9s et r\u00f4les respectifs, surveill\u00e9 l'\u00e9tat de la connectivit\u00e9 ainsi que d\u00e9fini et appliqu\u00e9 une strat\u00e9gie visant \u00e0 r\u00e9pondre aux besoins des Canadiens vivant dans les r\u00e9gions rurales et \u00e9loign\u00e9es.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807400\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> Au cours des 12 derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es, des examens approfondis de l'acc\u00e8s \u00e0 l'Internet \u00e0 large bande au Canada ont men\u00e9 \u00e0 des recommandations pour que le gouvernement f\u00e9d\u00e9ral dirige l'\u00e9laboration d'une strat\u00e9gie nationale pour les services \u00e0 large bande. Toutefois, \u00e0 la fin de notre audit, le gouvernement n'avait toujours pas approuv\u00e9 la prise de mesures \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807401\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Innovation, Sciences et D\u00e9veloppement \u00e9conomique Canada a indiqu\u00e9 qu'il h\u00e9sitait \u00e0 \u00e9tablir une strat\u00e9gie dont l'objectif ne pouvait \u00eatre atteint au moyen des fonds disponibles. Le minist\u00e8re a donc continu\u00e9 d'appliquer une approche consistant \u00e0 d\u00e9velopper la couverture de services \u00e0 large bande dans les r\u00e9gions mal desservies du pays \u00e0 compter du moment o\u00f9 des fonds \u00e9taient disponibles.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807402\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Cette approche signifiait que les habitants des r\u00e9gions rurales et \u00e9loign\u00e9es avaient moins facilement acc\u00e8s \u00e0 d'importants services en ligne comme des programmes d'\u00e9ducation, des services bancaires et des services de soins de sant\u00e9 et qu'ils ne savaient pas quand cet acc\u00e8s pourrait \u00eatre am\u00e9lior\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807403\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Le 26 octobre dernier, le <a data-HoCid=\"214319\" href=\"/politicians/navdeep-bains/\" title=\"Navdeep Bains\">ministre de l'Innovation, des Sciences et du D\u00e9veloppement \u00e9conomique</a> a annonc\u00e9 que les ministres f\u00e9d\u00e9ral, provinciaux et territoriaux de l'Innovation et du D\u00e9veloppement \u00e9conomique avaient convenu de faire des services \u00e0 large bande une priorit\u00e9 et de d\u00e9finir une strat\u00e9gie \u00e0 long terme afin d'am\u00e9liorer l'acc\u00e8s \u00e0 l'Internet haute vitesse pour tous les Canadiens.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807404\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Les ministres se sont engag\u00e9s \u00e0 \u00e9tablir un acc\u00e8s universel haute vitesse de 50 m\u00e9gabits par seconde pour le t\u00e9l\u00e9chargement de donn\u00e9es et de 10 m\u00e9gabits par seconde pour le t\u00e9l\u00e9versement des donn\u00e9es.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807405\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Monsieur le pr\u00e9sident, pour ce qui est de l'\u00e9tat actuel de la connectivit\u00e9 au Canada, nous avons constat\u00e9 que le minist\u00e8re s'\u00e9tait fond\u00e9 sur des donn\u00e9es compl\u00e8tes et exactes pour \u00e9tayer l'\u00e9laboration de politiques visant \u00e0 combler les lacunes en mati\u00e8re de connectivit\u00e9 dans les r\u00e9gions rurales et \u00e9loign\u00e9es.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807406\" data-originallang=\"en\">En 2016, le minist\u00e8re a lanc\u00e9 son programme de financement Brancher pour innover afin de connecter \u00e0 l'Internet haute vitesse 300 collectivit\u00e9s rurales et \u00e9loign\u00e9es du Canada. Nous avons examin\u00e9 si le minist\u00e8re avait con\u00e7u et g\u00e9r\u00e9 ce programme pour optimiser les ressources publiques dans l'int\u00e9r\u00eat des contribuables. Nous avons constat\u00e9 qu'il n'avait pas appliqu\u00e9 ce programme de fa\u00e7on \u00e0 assurer une expansion maximale de l'infrastructure avec les deniers publics d\u00e9pens\u00e9s. Le programme ne contenait aucune disposition pour att\u00e9nuer le risque que les fonds publics remplacent les investissements du secteur priv\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807407\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous avons aussi constat\u00e9 que le minist\u00e8re n'avait pas fourni de l'information importante aux \u00e9ventuels demandeurs de financement en vertu du programme. Certains demandeurs ont donc d\u00fb d\u00e9ployer plus d'efforts dans la pr\u00e9paration de leurs propositions, et aucun d'eux ne comprenait compl\u00e8tement les crit\u00e8res de s\u00e9lection des demandes de financement. Ainsi, le choix des projets \u00e9tait fond\u00e9 sur un certain nombre de facteurs, mais le guide de pr\u00e9paration des demandes ne pr\u00e9cisait pas le poids relatif de chaque crit\u00e8re utilis\u00e9 dans le processus de s\u00e9lection. De plus, les projets qui ne correspondaient pas aux priorit\u00e9s des provinces et des territoires \u00e9taient moins susceptibles d'\u00eatre financ\u00e9s, mais ces priorit\u00e9s n'avaient pas \u00e9t\u00e9 rendues publiques. Selon nous, le minist\u00e8re aurait d\u00fb publier le poids des crit\u00e8res et les priorit\u00e9s.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807408\" data-originallang=\"en\">Beaucoup de Canadiens dans les r\u00e9gions rurales et \u00e9loign\u00e9es d\u00e9pendaient de solutions sans fil fixes \u00e0 large bande. Nous avons constat\u00e9 que les petits fournisseurs de services Internet n'avaient pas eu suffisamment acc\u00e8s aux fr\u00e9quences du spectre de qualit\u00e9 sup\u00e9rieure pour pouvoir d\u00e9ployer des services \u00e0 large bande dans les r\u00e9gions rurales et \u00e9loign\u00e9es. Par exemple, le minist\u00e8re a mis aux ench\u00e8res des licences de spectre visant des r\u00e9gions g\u00e9ographiques trop vastes pour que les petits fournisseurs de services Internet puissent y participer. Le march\u00e9 secondaire des portions du spectre non utilis\u00e9es avait des lacunes, notamment \u00e0 cause de l'absence d'incitatifs pour les titulaires de licences d'offrir en sous-licences les portions qu'ils n'utilisaient pas. De plus, l'information sur les portions de spectre non utilis\u00e9es n'\u00e9tait pas facilement accessible aux fournisseurs de services Internet int\u00e9ress\u00e9s.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807409\" data-originallang=\"fr\"> Innovation, Sciences et D\u00e9veloppement \u00e9conomique Canada et le Conseil de la radiodiffusion et des t\u00e9l\u00e9communications canadiennes ont accept\u00e9 nos six recommandations. Nous croyons comprendre que le minist\u00e8re a pr\u00e9par\u00e9 un plan d'action d\u00e9taill\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807410\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Monsieur le pr\u00e9sident, je finis ainsi ma d\u00e9claration d'ouverture. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807411\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Nous serons heureux de r\u00e9pondre aux questions des membres du Comit\u00e9. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"5807412\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Je vous remercie.</p>"
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