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{
    "time": "2014-03-06 09:30:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Roland LeFort",
        "fr": "M. Roland LeFort"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"3621458\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you, Peter. I can for sure.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621459\" data-originallang=\"en\">I live in a community that has grown from 25,000 to more than 100,000. When we build an infrastructure like that, we have to put it into context. Where is it going to go, if society, as we believe it will, takes a different view on the development of the oil sands or on oil and gas and fossil fuels altogether? What do we do with a community like Fort McMurray, if that slowdown ever occurs?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621460\" data-originallang=\"en\">When we talk about sustainability, that's what we want to talk about: moving this forward so that, as we're doing so, we maximize our ability to extract the oil sands and the value of them to build a better country. We can develop the resource to move it across the country, as the other speakers have identified so well, and build our country, whether it be through the infrastructure.... </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621461\" data-originallang=\"en\">For example, we saw some real tragedies with Lac M\u00e9gantic and the transportation of the product without proper legislation, without any concern about that infrastructure being the right infrastructure for moving that resource.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621462\" data-originallang=\"en\">The rail system is a great infrastructure, if we build it for that purpose and for other purposes. We heard about the tertiary industry being, for example, agriculture. I don't think we have the infrastructure in rail now to adequately supply that tertiary industry.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621463\" data-originallang=\"en\">It has to be part of a strategy that means everything to us; that means we're going to be developing this resource knowing that at some point there is an end, so that we prepare for that end in the transition process; that means we develop it knowing that we have some responsibilities to the world, that we're not growing it to an extent that is not sustainable, that our strategy includes not only the extraction of the resource, but the refining and marketing; and that means we accept responsibility for emissions in all of that and come up with a target that is achievable. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621464\" data-originallang=\"en\">If we are increasing our emissions because we are developing the resource, then we need to find other ways to reduce our total emission, and that could be by developing the right infrastructure on public transit, for example, or on rail, again, because we already know that transportation\u2014</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621465\" data-originallang=\"en\"><em>[Technical Difficulty\u2014Editor]</em> </p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"3621458\" data-originallang=\"en\">Certainement. Merci, Peter.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621459\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Je vis dans une collectivit\u00e9 qui est pass\u00e9e de 25 000 \u00e0 plus de 100 000 habitants. Quand nous construisons de telles infrastructures, nous devons mettre les choses en contexte. Qu\u2019arrivera-t-il si la soci\u00e9t\u00e9, comme nous le pensons, adopte un point de vue diff\u00e9rent sur l\u2019exploitation des sables bitumineux, ou les ressources p\u00e9troli\u00e8res et gazi\u00e8res et les combustibles fossiles? Que ferons-nous d\u2019une collectivit\u00e9 comme Fort McMurray si ce ralentissement se produit?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621460\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Quand nous parlons de durabilit\u00e9, c\u2019est de cela que nous voulons parler: faire avancer les choses afin d\u2019optimiser notre capacit\u00e9 d\u2019extraire les sables bitumineux et d'en tirer le maximum de valeur pour b\u00e2tir un pays meilleur. Nous pouvons exploiter la ressource pour l'exp\u00e9dier partout au pays, comme l\u2019ont si bien dit les autres t\u00e9moins, et b\u00e2tir notre pays, que ce soit par l\u2019infrastructure...</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621461\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Par exemple, les \u00e9v\u00e9nements de Lac M\u00e9gantic ont \u00e9t\u00e9 une vraie trag\u00e9die, comme le fait de transporter le produit sans une l\u00e9gislation appropri\u00e9e, sans que l\u2019on se demande s\u2019il s\u2019agissait de l\u2019infrastructure ad\u00e9quate pour transporter cette ressource.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621462\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Le syst\u00e8me ferroviaire est une excellente infrastructure, si nous la construisons \u00e0 cette fin et \u00e0 d\u2019autres fins. On nous a parl\u00e9 du secteur tertiaire, de l\u2019agriculture, par exemple. Je doute que nous ayons actuellement les infrastructures ferroviaires requises pour approvisionner ad\u00e9quatement ce secteur tertiaire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621463\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Cela doit faire partie d\u2019une strat\u00e9gie qui signifie tout pour nous; cela veut dire que nous exploiterons cette ressource en sachant qu\u2019\u00e0 un moment donn\u00e9, il y aura une fin, pour nous pr\u00e9parer \u00e0 cette fin durant le processus de transition; cela veut dire que nous l'exploiterons en sachant que nous avons des responsabilit\u00e9s \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9gard du monde, que nous ne le faisons pas dans une mesure qui n\u2019est pas durable, que notre strat\u00e9gie englobe non seulement l\u2019extraction de la ressource, mais aussi le raffinage et la commercialisation; et cela veut dire que nous acceptons la responsabilit\u00e9 des \u00e9missions et que nous proposons un objectif r\u00e9alisable.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621464\" data-originallang=\"en\"> S\u2019il y a une augmentation de nos \u00e9missions parce que nous exploitons la ressource, alors il nous faut trouver d\u2019autres moyens de r\u00e9duire l\u2019ensemble de nos \u00e9missions, par exemple en misant sur les infrastructures ad\u00e9quates pour le transport en commun ou le transport ferroviaire, car nous savons d\u00e9j\u00e0 que le transport...</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3621465\" data-originallang=\"en\"> <em>[Note de la r\u00e9daction: difficult\u00e9s techniques]</em> </p>"
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