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{
"time": "2010-11-25 12:40:00",
"attribution": {
"en": "Dr. David Keith",
"fr": ""
},
"content": {
"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"2222934\" data-originallang=\"en\"> We will do this not, I think, by using less energy, and not by consumer choice. We will do this by switching our primary energy supply to supplies that don't use carbon. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2222935\" data-originallang=\"en\">It's important to think about the enormous success we've had in the rich world since the Second World War in cleaning up the environment. On mercury, on lead and gasoline, on air pollution, our water--on all those things we made huge, enormous progress. The places we made progress best were when government set clear targets and industry innovated to find ways to meet those targets. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2222936\" data-originallang=\"en\">That could be done here too. There are lots of ways that we can produce abundant energy without carbon emissions, from large-scale nuclear power\u2014which is one of the things I think we must take most seriously\u2014to large-scale wind power, or solar in some places. But we have to be clear-eyed about making that transition. And in Canada, we have to be clear-eyed about making investments in innovation, at both a university level and a corporate level, that allow us to win in a carbon-constrained world.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2222937\" data-originallang=\"en\">Currently the amount of energy innovation in Canada, the amount of money, is tiny by many measures of global standards. And it's completely unfocused. Money is dribbled across almost every imaginable energy technology, from tidal to whatnot, with no sense of strategy or focus.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2222938\" data-originallang=\"en\">I served with Angus Bruneau on the Bruneau commission a couple of years ago, which tried to make this very clear. I think the central challenge we face is to, first of all, be serious about the long-run challenge of reducing carbon emissions, but also to think about how to do that in a way that provides jobs, and high-quality jobs, for Canadians. That means thinking hard about a limited number of strategic choices we make about clean energy.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2222939\" data-originallang=\"en\">So for example, government after government has failed to deal with what we're actually going to do with AECL, and I don't see any sense that people understand the actual way the nuclear industry is working and the actual strategic choices we face. The same is true for many other technologies. We have a focus on bringing small amounts of wind power into Canada, but no understanding of the industrial implications of who actually owns and controls the major wind power industry. Some much more clear-headed thinking about the intersection of industrial policy and the need to decarbonize is needed.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"2222934\" data-originallang=\"en\">Nous n'y arriverons pas en utilisant moins d'\u00e9nergie, ni m\u00eame par choix du consommateur. Nous y arriverons en nous approvisionnant principalement aupr\u00e8s de sources qui n'utilisent pas de carbone.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2222935\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ne sous-estimons pas le succ\u00e8s qu'a connu le monde d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 depuis la Deuxi\u00e8me Guerre mondiale en mati\u00e8re d'assainissement de l'environnement. Nous avons r\u00e9duit les taux de mercure, de plomb, de p\u00e9trole, de pollution atmosph\u00e9rique, de pollution des eaux \u2014 nous avons accompli des progr\u00e8s importants dans tous ces domaines. Et l\u00e0 o\u00f9 nous avons eu le plus de succ\u00e8s, c'est parce que les gouvernements ont \u00e9tabli des objectifs clairs et l'industrie a trouv\u00e9 des moyens novateurs d'atteindre ces objectifs.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2222936\" data-originallang=\"en\">C'est ce qu'il faut faire en l'occurence. Il y a toutes sortes de moyens de produire une \u00e9nergie abondante sans \u00e9missions de carbone, en passant par les grandes centrales nucl\u00e9aires \u2014 une source d'\u00e9nergie des plus int\u00e9ressantes \u2014, aux installions \u00e9oliennes ou solaires dans certains endroits. Mais il faut prendre ce virage de fa\u00e7on intelligente. Et au Canada, nous devons investir judicieusement dans l'innovation, au niveau des universit\u00e9s et des entreprises, de fa\u00e7on \u00e0 sortir gagnants de cette course vers la r\u00e9duction du carbone.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2222937\" data-originallang=\"en\">Actuellement, les fonds consacr\u00e9s \u00e0 l'innovation \u00e9nerg\u00e9tique au Canada sont risibles, et ce en fonction de nombreuses mesures internationales. Qui plus est, ces d\u00e9penses sont compl\u00e8tement d\u00e9sorganis\u00e9es. On \u00e9parpille l'argent dans tous les secteurs technologiques imaginables et inimaginables, sans aucune strat\u00e9gie ou vision.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2222938\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'ai collabor\u00e9 avec Angus Bruneau \u00e0 la Commission Bruneau il y a quelques ann\u00e9es, et nous signalions d\u00e9j\u00e0 le probl\u00e8me. L'objectif est bipartite: comment r\u00e9duire les \u00e9missions de carbone sur une longue \u00e9ch\u00e9ance, tout en cr\u00e9ant des emplois de qualit\u00e9 pour les Canadiens. Pour ce faire, il faut se limiter \u00e0 quelques choix strat\u00e9giques en mati\u00e8re d'\u00e9nergie propre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2222939\" data-originallang=\"en\">Par exemple, tous les gouvernements jusqu'ici ont esquiv\u00e9 la question de l'avenir d'\u00c9nergie atomique du Canada limit\u00e9e, et d'ailleurs je ne pense pas que les Canadiens comprennent r\u00e9ellement l'industrie nucl\u00e9aire ni les choix strat\u00e9giques que nous devons faire. Mais il en va de m\u00eame pour plein d'autres technologies. On cherche notamment \u00e0 implanter l'\u00e9nergie \u00e9olienne au Canada, sans vraiment se demander qui sont les poids lourds du secteur \u00e9olien. Il faut donc r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir beaucoup plus s\u00e9rieusement \u00e0 la politique industrielle et \u00e0 la d\u00e9carbonisation.</p>"
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