Speech (committee meeting)

{
    "time": "2021-02-01 11:25:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Hinesh Chauhan (As an Individual)",
        "fr": "M. Hinesh Chauhan (\u00e0 titre personnel)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"6487932\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Good morning, Madam Chair and honourable members.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487933\" data-originallang=\"en\">My name is Hinesh Chauhan. I spent 18 and a half years in the army, an equal combination of full-time and part-time service, as a combat engineer and then an engineer officer. I had very broad experience and exposure to various operations. I gained a lot during my time in the CAF.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487934\" data-originallang=\"en\">From there I moved to the federal public service. My first role was as a senior program analyst with the Treasury Board Secretariat, overseeing the defence portfolio of organizations, high-risk projects, purchases, acquisitions and management practices. I'm currently a director overseeing capital investments and projects for rural property assets at the Department of Fisheries and Oceans.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487935\" data-originallang=\"en\">I am intimately familiar with the defence machine and culture and the federal bureaucracy. I love the work I get to do and very much enjoy bringing value for money to Canadians.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487936\" data-originallang=\"en\">As a secondary duty, I lead a wellness program that has supported substantially raising employee satisfaction based on results measured by the public service employment survey, showing an improvement of 120% over two years. I firmly believe measurement drives behaviour and that success must be quantified.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487937\" data-originallang=\"en\">I'm here today to discuss the circumstances around my brother's death. My brother, Warrant Officer Sanjeev Chauhan, my only sibling, killed himself on October 17, 2020. He disappeared the previous night and was found dead, face down in a field on the base in Petawawa. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487938\" data-originallang=\"en\">My brother was a father, a husband and an army intelligence operator, who spent time in a special operating forces unit with four tours, to Afghanistan, Bali, Latvia and Iraq. He loved being a soldier. He loved his trade and loved what he got to do. He wore his uniform with more pride than I've seen any other member wear a uniform.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487939\" data-originallang=\"en\">The circumstances that led to his suicide are not entirely surprising when broken down. What was known by his chain of command and what was documented within the HR system was sufficient to raise red flags. With an objective lens, I very much believe the system failed him.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487940\" data-originallang=\"en\">In looking at the \u201c2019 Report on Suicide Mortality in the Canadian Armed Forces\u201d and several other findings in reports, he had most of the indicators listed by DND as a factor leading to suicide. He had multiple tours in a short amount of time. He was with the special operations forces unit. He had a brain injury. He had PTSD and other psychological conditions. He had been put in a medical category. He had begun drinking and had alcohol-related incidents. He had been very recently separated. He had a disciplinary issue and a pending court martial. He had a previous suicide attempt. He had a family member who had committed suicide. He had been isolated and removed from his unit after the incident that would lead to a court martial.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487941\" data-originallang=\"en\">The pending court martial, related to a June 2019 incident, was a dark cloud over my brother. It was repeatedly rescheduled and delayed and was far from timely and efficient\u2014an issue identified in the 2018 Auditor General report, \u201cAdministration of Justice in the Canadian Armed Forces\u201d.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487942\" data-originallang=\"en\">The purpose of the military justice system is to maintain discipline, efficiency and morale in the CAF. The process my brother faced provided the exact opposite. I worry for other members who face this lack of oversight and lack of time standards, which is what the OAG has recommended is required. Measurement does drive behaviour.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487943\" data-originallang=\"en\">His chain of command also had directed members of his unit to not communicate with him, thereby shunning him from what gave him purpose and his identity. Several of the studies show the impact of losing identity on members who release. Social isolation is another main contributor to increasing odds for suicide. This order, in my opinion, was appalling and inexcusable and goes against all leadership principles. This led to his ostracization and the further deterioration of his mental health. It took away his dignity. I think it violated his human rights.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487944\" data-originallang=\"en\">In trying to understand this direction, I wrote a letter to the <a data-HoCid=\"214311\" href=\"/politicians/harjit-s-sajjan/\" title=\"Harjit S. Sajjan\">Minister of National Defence</a>, which I shared with this committee. The topic was not addressed in the response. However, immediate denial was provided to a journalist who wrote in asking the same. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487945\" data-originallang=\"en\">How any military leader can issue such a command is beyond me and goes against the Canadian military ethos and our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. If one leader can issue a command of this nature, which is then followed, it speaks to the unhealthy culture within the organization.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487946\" data-originallang=\"en\"> All the factors I listed earlier have repeatedly been identified by both DND and VAC as elements that increase the risk of suicide. At what point do these issues raise a red flag to health services for the chain of command? The majority of these factors were in his personnel file and in the HR system. These factors, when combined, could set up automated flags for his chain of command and health services to take note and take action.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487947\" data-originallang=\"en\">Another question is this: When does psychological-related substance abuse become more closely examined to prevent more serious events? This should be examined from a causal point of view versus a symptomatic point of view. This early warning system, red flags in the system that look at these factors and pop up proactively or are automated, could prevent suicides. At a minimum, it would being attention to members who are at the tipping point and get them the attention they need\u2014immediate intervention.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487948\" data-originallang=\"en\">When I spoke to my peers in uniform, the overwhelming response about mental health in the forces was that they feel there is still a stigma. It's still viewed as weakness and a burden to the organization. Those who experience psychotic episodes had to wait to get the right services, to get the proper medical or psychological attention.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487949\" data-originallang=\"en\">Based on what I read in the National Defence departmental plan, everything related to mental health, which is only mentioned once and suicide twice, lacks metrics, lacks clear measurable objectives. Despite being a priority of the Clerk of the Privy Council, mental health appearing once in the departmental plan says a lot about the culture and how this is viewed within the organization. Just like harassment training was brought to everybody about 20 years ago, the same should apply for mental health first aid. Just as physical first aid is taught\u2014every year, a refresher is taught\u2014the same should apply to mental health first aid, and it should be incorporated into leadership performance appraisals. Again, measurement drives behaviour.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487950\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I'd like to share a really interesting observation I've learned. The countries surrounding the Mediterranean and Red seas, as well as those in Southeast Asia and in the South Pacific, all have the lowest rates of suicide. Remarkably, the Israel Defense Forces have taken action and have reduced their suicide rate to where it's now lower than their civilian rate of suicide, which is not the trend in any other western country or in any other country with an advanced military. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487951\" data-originallang=\"en\">If a soldier goes missing, the IDF, with the press of a button, uses technological means to locate the soldier. In the last year, the IDF has claimed that this has saved four soldiers' lives. If that were the case within Canada, my brother could be alive today and could be getting the help and attention that he needed, but culture is a difficult thing to change. As the adage goes, culture eats strategy for breakfast. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487952\" data-originallang=\"en\">The dichotomy of a soldier is challenging. How do you balance being a warrior, being asked to perform duties no other Canadian is willing to do, and then return home to assimilate and behave conventionally? Switching between these two personas generates serious mental stress. Being able to relate with others and share experiences and challenges is a large part in managing this dichotomy. However, the traditional venues that exist for bonding are the messes and Legions, which revolve around alcohol. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487953\" data-originallang=\"en\">Study after study show that numbing through addiction is counterproductive and very common, and these same studies show that exercise and positive social interaction are the simplest and most effective tools to reduce symptoms of depression and anxiety, and improve mental health and resiliency. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487954\" data-originallang=\"en\">I firmly believe that this committee, VAC, DND and the Canadian Armed Forces should examine how healthier social interaction can occur, where fitness and movement are encouraged and supported. I believe this would be a catalyst for an organic shift in the warrior culture, where mental illness is viewed as any other physical illness, further decreasing the stigma, and where members of the CAF and their families can develop healthier coping strategies and resilience. This dialogue has to continue. The education awareness must continue.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487955\" data-originallang=\"en\">Quantifying the objectives and outputs must occur. Creating that accountability within the leadership must occur. Meaningful measurement in reporting must occur. Measurement drives behaviour. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487956\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you, Madam Chair, for this opportunity.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"6487932\" data-originallang=\"en\">Bonjour, madame la pr\u00e9sidente, membres du Comit\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487933\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Je m\u2019appelle Hinesh Chauhan. J\u2019ai pass\u00e9 18 ans et demi dans les Forces arm\u00e9es canadiennes, la moiti\u00e9 \u00e0 plein temps et la moiti\u00e9 \u00e0 temps partiel, comme sapeur de combat puis comme officier du g\u00e9nie. J\u2019ai une vaste exp\u00e9rience des diff\u00e9rentes op\u00e9rations. J\u2019ai appris beaucoup pendant toutes ces ann\u00e9es.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487934\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Ensuite, je suis entr\u00e9 dans la fonction publique f\u00e9d\u00e9rale, d\u2019abord comme analyste de programme principal au Secr\u00e9tariat du Conseil du Tr\u00e9sor, o\u00f9 j\u2019\u00e9tais charg\u00e9 de superviser le portefeuille d\u00e9fense des organisations, les projets haut risque, les achats, les acquisitions et les pratiques de gestion. \u00c0 l\u2019heure actuelle, j\u2019occupe un poste de directeur au minist\u00e8re des P\u00eaches et des Oc\u00e9ans, et \u00e0 ce titre, je supervise les investissements et les projets d\u2019acquisition de biens immobiliers ruraux.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487935\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Je connais tr\u00e8s bien la bureaucratie et la culture du minist\u00e8re de la D\u00e9fense et de la fonction publique f\u00e9d\u00e9rale. J\u2019adore ce que je fais, surtout lorsqu\u2019il s\u2019agit de s\u2019assurer que les deniers publics sont d\u00e9pens\u00e9s \u00e0 bon escient.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487936\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Comme responsabilit\u00e9 secondaire, je dirige un programme de mieux-\u00eatre qui a permis d\u2019accro\u00eetre de 120 % en deux ans le niveau de satisfaction des employ\u00e9s, selon les r\u00e9sultats du sondage aupr\u00e8s des fonctionnaires f\u00e9d\u00e9raux. Je suis fermement convaincu que l\u2019\u00e9valuation influe sur le comportement et que les r\u00e9sultats doivent \u00eatre quantifi\u00e9s.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487937\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Je suis ici aujourd\u2019hui pour discuter des circonstances qui ont entour\u00e9 la mort de mon fr\u00e8re unique. Adjudant, Sanjeev Chauhan s\u2019est donn\u00e9 la mort le 17 octobre 2020. Il avait disparu la veille au soir, et on a retrouv\u00e9 son corps le lendemain, sur un terrain de la base de Petawawa.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487938\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Mon fr\u00e8re \u00e9tait un p\u00e8re, un mari et un op\u00e9rateur des services de renseignement de l\u2019arm\u00e9e, qui a particip\u00e9 \u00e0 quatre missions des forces d\u2019op\u00e9rations sp\u00e9ciales en Afghanistan, \u00e0 Bali, en Lettonie et en Irak. Il adorait l\u2019arm\u00e9e. Il adorait ce qu\u2019il faisait. Plus que n\u2019importe quel autre militaire, il \u00e9tait fier de porter l\u2019uniforme.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487939\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Les circonstances qui ont conduit \u00e0 son suicide ne sont pas compl\u00e8tement une surprise, quand on y regarde de pr\u00e8s. Ce que savait la cha\u00eene de commandement et ce qui \u00e9tait document\u00e9 dans les dossiers des RH auraient d\u00fb d\u00e9clencher la sonnette d\u2019alarme. En toute objectivit\u00e9, je pense que le syst\u00e8me l\u2019a laiss\u00e9 tomber.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487940\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Quand je lis le <em>Rapport de 2019 sur la mortalit\u00e9 par suicide dans les Forces arm\u00e9es canadiennes</em>, je constate que mon fr\u00e8re pr\u00e9sentait la plupart des signes que le minist\u00e8re consid\u00e8re comme des causes de suicide. Il avait particip\u00e9 \u00e0 un grand nombre de missions en un court laps de temps. Il faisait partie des forces d\u2019op\u00e9rations sp\u00e9ciales. Il avait \u00e9t\u00e9 bless\u00e9 et avait une l\u00e9sion au cerveau. Il souffrait de stress post-traumatique et d\u2019autres probl\u00e8mes psychologiques. On lui avait attribu\u00e9 une cat\u00e9gorie m\u00e9dicale. Il avait commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 boire et avait eu plusieurs incidents li\u00e9s \u00e0 l\u2019alcool. Il venait de se s\u00e9parer. Il avait eu des probl\u00e8mes disciplinaires et devait compara\u00eetre en cour martiale. Il avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 fait une tentative de suicide. Un membre de sa famille s\u2019\u00e9tait suicid\u00e9. Apr\u00e8s l\u2019incident, il avait \u00e9t\u00e9 mis en isolement, \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9cart de son unit\u00e9, en attendant sa comparution en cour martiale.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487941\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Cette comparution en cour martiale, suite \u00e0 un incident en juin 2019, \u00e9tait comme une \u00e9p\u00e9e de Damocl\u00e8s au-dessus de la t\u00eate de mon fr\u00e8re. Plusieurs fois report\u00e9e, elle \u00e9tait par cons\u00e9quent loin de contribuer au r\u00e8glement rapide et efficient du probl\u00e8me, comme le recommandait le v\u00e9rificateur g\u00e9n\u00e9ral dans son rapport de 2018 intitul\u00e9 <em>L\u2019administration de la justice dans les Forces arm\u00e9es canadiennes</em>.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487942\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Le syst\u00e8me de justice militaire a pour vocation de maintenir la discipline, l\u2019efficience et le moral dans les Forces arm\u00e9es canadiennes. Ce qui est arriv\u00e9 \u00e0 mon fr\u00e8re est exactement le contraire. Je m\u2019inqui\u00e8te pour les autres militaires qui souffrent de la m\u00eame n\u00e9gligence et des m\u00eames retards, contrairement \u00e0 ce que recommande le Bureau du v\u00e9rificateur g\u00e9n\u00e9ral. L\u2019\u00e9valuation influe sur le comportement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487943\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Sa cha\u00eene de commandement avait aussi ordonn\u00e9 aux autres membres de son unit\u00e9 de ne pas communiquer avec lui, ce qui l\u2019\u00e9loignait de tout ce qui constituait pour lui un but et une identit\u00e9. Plusieurs \u00e9tudes examinent l\u2019impact de cette perte d\u2019identit\u00e9 sur les militaires d\u00e9mobilis\u00e9s. La mise \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9cart est un autre facteur important qui augmente les risques de suicide. Cette d\u00e9cision \u00e9tait \u00e0 mon avis tragique et inexcusable, et elle allait \u00e0 l\u2019encontre de tous les principes de leadership. Elle a entra\u00een\u00e9 son ostracisation et l\u2019aggravation de ses troubles mentaux. Elle l\u2019a priv\u00e9 de sa dignit\u00e9 et je pense qu\u2019elle a port\u00e9 atteinte \u00e0 ses droits humains.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487944\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Pour essayer de comprendre cette d\u00e9cision, j\u2019ai adress\u00e9 une lettre au <a data-HoCid=\"214311\" href=\"/politicians/harjit-s-sajjan/\" title=\"Harjit S. Sajjan\">ministre de la D\u00e9fense nationale</a> dont j\u2019ai fait parvenir une copie \u00e0 votre comit\u00e9. La r\u00e9ponse n\u2019abordait pas le sujet, et une r\u00e9futation imm\u00e9diate a \u00e9t\u00e9 oppos\u00e9e \u00e0 un journaliste qui avait \u00e9crit pour demander la m\u00eame chose.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487945\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Qu\u2019un chef militaire puisse donner un tel ordre d\u00e9passe l\u2019entendement. En tout cas, cela va \u00e0 l\u2019encontre de l\u2019\u00e9thique militaire canadienne et de notre Charte des droits et libert\u00e9s. Qu\u2019un chef militaire puisse donner un ordre pareil et que cet ordre puisse \u00eatre ex\u00e9cut\u00e9 r\u00e9v\u00e8le l\u2019existence d\u2019une culture d\u00e9l\u00e9t\u00e8re au sein de l\u2019organisation.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487946\" data-originallang=\"en\">Tous les facteurs que j\u2019ai \u00e9num\u00e9r\u00e9s sont consid\u00e9r\u00e9s par le minist\u00e8re de la D\u00e9fense nationale et celui des Anciens Combattants comme des risques accrus de suicide. \u00c0 partir de quel moment d\u00e9clenchent-ils une sonnette d\u2019alarme dans les services de sant\u00e9 et dans la cha\u00eene de commandement? La majorit\u00e9 de ces facteurs figuraient dans son dossier personnel et dans le syst\u00e8me des RH. Leur accumulation aurait d\u00fb d\u00e9clencher une sonnette d\u2019alarme dans la cha\u00eene de commandement et dans les services de sant\u00e9, pour qu\u2019ils prennent des mesures.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487947\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Une autre question se pose: \u00e0 partir de quel moment la consommation abusive d\u2019une substance, \u00e0 cause de troubles psychologiques, d\u00e9clenche-t-elle un examen plus pouss\u00e9 afin d\u2019\u00e9viter des incidents plus graves? C\u2019est une question qu\u2019il faudrait examiner d\u2019un point de vue causal, par opposition \u00e0 un point de vue symptomatique. Un syst\u00e8me de d\u00e9tection pr\u00e9coce, qui d\u00e9clencherait proactivement ou automatiquement une sonnette d\u2019alarme d\u00e8s l\u2019apparition de ces facteurs, permettrait de pr\u00e9venir des suicides. Il permettrait au moins de d\u00e9tecter les militaires qui sont sur le point de basculer et qui ont besoin d\u2019une attention imm\u00e9diate.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487948\" data-originallang=\"en\"> J\u2019en ai parl\u00e9 \u00e0 des coll\u00e8gues de l\u2019arm\u00e9e qui ont reconnu, dans leur grande majorit\u00e9, que la sant\u00e9 mentale \u00e9tait encore un sujet tabou dans l\u2019arm\u00e9e. Qu\u2019on consid\u00e9rait encore cela comme une faiblesse et un fardeau pour l\u2019organisation. Ceux qui souffrent de psychoses doivent attendre avant d\u2019avoir acc\u00e8s \u00e0 des services appropri\u00e9s, \u00e0 des soins m\u00e9dicaux et \u00e0 une aide psychologique.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487949\" data-originallang=\"en\"> \u00c0 en juger par ce que j\u2019ai lu dans le plan minist\u00e9riel de la D\u00e9fense nationale, les passages portant sur la sant\u00e9 mentale, qui n\u2019est mentionn\u00e9e qu\u2019une seule fois et le suicide, deux fois, ne contiennent aucun indicateur pr\u00e9cis, aucun objectif mesurable et clair. M\u00eame si c\u2019est une priorit\u00e9 du greffier du Conseil priv\u00e9, la sant\u00e9 mentale n\u2019est mentionn\u00e9e qu\u2019une seule fois dans le plan minist\u00e9riel, ce qui est tr\u00e8s r\u00e9v\u00e9lateur de l\u2019importance qu\u2019elle a pour l\u2019organisation. De la m\u00eame fa\u00e7on qu\u2019il y a une vingtaine d\u2019ann\u00e9es on a commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 faire suivre \u00e0 tout le monde des cours sur le harc\u00e8lement, on devrait en faire autant avec des cours de premiers soins en sant\u00e9 mentale. De la m\u00eame fa\u00e7on qu\u2019on fait suivre aux employ\u00e9s des cours de premiers soins physiques \u2014 avec une remise \u00e0 niveau chaque ann\u00e9e \u2014, on devrait en faire autant avec les cours de premiers soins en sant\u00e9 mentale, et cela devrait \u00eatre int\u00e9gr\u00e9 dans les \u00e9valuations de rendement des gestionnaires. Encore une fois, l\u2019\u00e9valuation influe sur le comportement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487950\" data-originallang=\"en\"> J\u2019aimerais vous faire part d\u2019un constat tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressant que j\u2019ai fait. Les pays qui bordent la M\u00e9diterran\u00e9e et la mer Rouge, ainsi que les pays d\u2019Asie du Sud-Est et du Sud Pacifique enregistrent les taux de suicide les plus faibles. Qui plus est, l\u2019arm\u00e9e isra\u00e9lienne a pris des mesures pour r\u00e9duire son taux de suicide, \u00e0 telle enseigne qu\u2019il est maintenant inf\u00e9rieur au taux de suicide dans la population civile, ce qui n\u2019est pas du tout la tendance dans les pays occidentaux ou dans les pays disposant d\u2019une arm\u00e9e moderne.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487951\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Quand un soldat est port\u00e9 disparu, les Forces isra\u00e9liennes de d\u00e9fense n\u2019ont qu\u2019\u00e0 appuyer sur un bouton pour localiser le soldat. Elles estiment qu\u2019au cours des 12 derniers mois, cela leur a permis de sauver la vie de quatre soldats. Si un tel syst\u00e8me \u00e9tait appliqu\u00e9 au Canada, mon fr\u00e8re serait peut-\u00eatre encore en vie et il aurait acc\u00e8s aux soins dont il avait besoin, mais la culture est une chose difficile \u00e0 changer. Comme le dit l\u2019adage, la strat\u00e9gie s\u2019appuie sur la culture.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487952\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Le soldat est confront\u00e9 \u00e0 une redoutable dichotomie: faire la guerre et ex\u00e9cuter des actions qu\u2019aucun autre Canadien ne veut accomplir, et ensuite, rentrer chez lui et se comporter comme tout le monde. Passer d\u2019une persona \u00e0 l\u2019autre cause un stress mental consid\u00e9rable. Pouvoir en parler avec d\u2019autres personnes, partager des exp\u00e9riences, aide grandement \u00e0 g\u00e9rer cette dichotomie. Mais il faut dire que les lieux d\u2019\u00e9changes sont avant tout les mess et les l\u00e9gions, o\u00f9 l\u2019on consomme beaucoup d\u2019alcool.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487953\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Bon nombre d\u2019\u00e9tudes montrent que le fait de se droguer pour oublier est \u00e0 la fois contre-productif et tr\u00e8s courant, et que l\u2019exercice physique et les interactions sociales positives sont les moyens les plus simples et les plus efficaces d\u2019att\u00e9nuer les sympt\u00f4mes de la d\u00e9pression et de l\u2019anxi\u00e9t\u00e9, et d\u2019am\u00e9liorer la sant\u00e9 mentale et la r\u00e9silience.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487954\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Je suis fermement convaincu que votre comit\u00e9, le minist\u00e8re des Anciens Combattants, le minist\u00e8re de la D\u00e9fense nationale et les Forces arm\u00e9es canadiennes devraient se pencher sur les fa\u00e7ons d\u2019encourager des interactions sociales plus saines, qui mettent en valeur la bonne forme physique et le mouvement. Cela contribuerait \u00e0 infl\u00e9chir la culture guerri\u00e8re, afin que la maladie mentale soit consid\u00e9r\u00e9e comme n\u2019importe quelle autre maladie physique, qu\u2019elle suscite moins d\u2019ostracisme, et que les membres des forces arm\u00e9es et leur famille puissent appliquer des strat\u00e9gies plus saines d\u2019adaptation et de r\u00e9silience. Le dialogue doit se poursuivre. Le travail de sensibilisation doit se poursuivre.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487955\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Il faut aussi quantifier les objectifs et les r\u00e9sultats. Les chefs doivent \u00eatre tenus responsables. Les rapports doivent se fonder sur des \u00e9valuations pr\u00e9cises. Encore une fois, l\u2019\u00e9valuation influe sur le comportement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"6487956\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci, madame la pr\u00e9sidente, de m\u2019avoir invit\u00e9.</p>"
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