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{
    "time": "2015-02-25 16:30:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Ryan Leef",
        "fr": "M. Ryan Leef"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"3996507\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you, Mr. Wilks.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996508\" data-originallang=\"en\">You clearly know the challenges that are faced on a front-line level. Some of those translate perfectly in a correctional environment, and they're diverse. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996509\" data-originallang=\"en\">Regarding the second part of your question, diagnosis is always a challenge, as is privacy. The reality is that nobody is actually standing up saying, \u201cI have FASD. I want mitigation here.\u201d It's not something people want to volunteer, particularly if they're heading into a correctional environment, because they don't want that stigma on them. It becomes a real challenge to provide support when people are reluctant to stand up and acknowledge their condition. It only happens through some tremendous leadership and support from the community, justice, the crown, policing, and people in that community who work directly with the client to get them to realize the benefits of having a diagnosis, and of receiving treatment and support. It's tough to get them to go down that road. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996510\" data-originallang=\"en\">Frustrations in the correctional environment relate in part to the trick of providing a safe and secure environment. A lot of times people with FASD are manipulated by factors of FASD. They tend to be impressionable. The bullies in the correctional environment don't miss that opportunity. They often use them to kite drugs, move notes, do all their illicit bidding for them within the environment. They then suffer the consequences for that bad behaviour after thinking that it's a way for them to fit in. They don't appreciate the long-term consequences of their actions, which are largely what brought them into the correction environment in the first place and then they're manipulated within it. There are often struggles to give them the headspace, the quiet space, that they often need. A lot of times, that translates into segregation. Segregation is not necessarily a healthy situation, but it's the only viable, safe location. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996511\" data-originallang=\"en\">That becomes frustrating for staff. It's frustrating for the inmates. It's frustrating for the people who want to help them. Much like in front-line policing, you feel like your hands are tied while trying to help people you know need help. In other cases though, as I said, you see a different situation, where that structure, routine, and environment actually work out well for them. You end up wrestling those demons in your own head from a front-line client service delivery person in law enforcement as to what is the best route to take when you see some definite pros and definite cons around this. There's no easy answer to this, but I think, through your study, you're going to pull some of those things out.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"3996507\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci, monsieur Wilks.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996508\" data-originallang=\"en\">Vous connaissez manifestement les difficult\u00e9s auxquelles nous sommes confront\u00e9s en premi\u00e8re ligne. Certaines d'entre elles se traduisent parfaitement dans un milieu correctionnel, et elles sont tr\u00e8s vari\u00e9es.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996509\" data-originallang=\"en\">Pour r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 la deuxi\u00e8me partie de votre question, sachez que le diagnostic est toujours un probl\u00e8me, tout comme la protection de la vie priv\u00e9e. La r\u00e9alit\u00e9 est que personne ne va crier sur les toits qu'il est atteint de l'ETCAF et qu'il a besoin d'aide. Ce n'est pas quelque chose que les gens veulent r\u00e9v\u00e9ler, particuli\u00e8rement s'ils arrivent dans un milieu correctionnel, car ils ne veulent pas subir de pr\u00e9jug\u00e9s. Ce n'est pas du tout \u00e9vident d'essayer d'offrir du soutien \u00e0 des gens qui ne reconnaissent pas leur condition. Nous devons pouvoir compter sur l'appui et le leadership de la collectivit\u00e9, des juges, de la Couronne, des services de police et des gens de la communaut\u00e9 qui travaillent directement avec le client pour l'encourager \u00e0 recevoir un diagnostic et les aides qui s'ensuivent. Il est difficile de les amener dans cette voie.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996510\" data-originallang=\"en\">Dans le milieu correctionnel, il est difficile de leur offrir un environnement s\u00e9curitaire, et c'est tr\u00e8s frustrant. Les gens atteints de l'ETCAF se font souvent manipuler. Ils ont tendance \u00e0 \u00eatre influen\u00e7ables. Les intimidateurs s'en servent donc pour faire passer des notes et de la drogue ou mener leurs activit\u00e9s illicites. Par cons\u00e9quent, ce sont les gens aux prises avec ces troubles qui en subissent les cons\u00e9quences alors qu'ils veulent tout simplement se faire accepter. \u00c9videmment, ils n'appr\u00e9cient pas les cons\u00e9quences \u00e0 long terme de leurs actes, qui les ont amen\u00e9s au d\u00e9part dans le milieu correctionnel o\u00f9 ils sont ensuite victimes de manipulation. On a souvent de la difficult\u00e9 \u00e0 leur offrir l'espace et la tranquillit\u00e9 dont ils ont besoin. Cela se traduit souvent par l'isolement. L'isolement n'est pas n\u00e9cessairement sain, mais c'est la seule option qui soit viable et s\u00e9curitaire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996511\" data-originallang=\"en\">C'est d\u00e9courageant pour le personnel, les d\u00e9tenus et les gens qui voudraient les aider. Tout comme les policiers en premi\u00e8re ligne, on sent qu'on a les mains li\u00e9es lorsqu'on veut venir en aide \u00e0 des gens qui en ont besoin. Toutefois, dans d'autres cas, comme je l'ai dit, la situation est tout \u00e0 fait diff\u00e9rente; la structure, la routine et l'environnement semblent \u00eatre b\u00e9n\u00e9fiques. Par cons\u00e9quent, pour la personne responsable de la prestation des services de premi\u00e8re ligne, il n'est pas \u00e9vident de d\u00e9terminer quelle est la meilleure voix \u00e0 suivre lorsqu'il y a visiblement des avantages et des inconv\u00e9nients de chaque c\u00f4t\u00e9. Il n'y a pas de solution facile, mais je crois que votre \u00e9tude permettra de faire la lumi\u00e8re sur certains points.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/committees/justice/41-2/64/ryan-leef-24/",
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    "document_url": "/committees/justice/41-2/64/",
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