Speech (committee meeting)

{
    "time": "2015-02-25 16:25:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Ryan Leef",
        "fr": "M. Ryan Leef"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"3996489\" data-originallang=\"en\"> There are two things. One, you made some recommendations for the record that I think are valid in terms of looking back at past reports and by all means I would encourage you to do that. Two, I didn't talk to Mr. Sapers, largely because my bill was designed to deal with the Criminal Code of Canada and not the Corrections and Conditional Release Act. In part, to address him, you're not inaccurate with what you're saying. You're right in those comments. The diagnoses and understanding of the prevalence rate in Correctional Service of Canada is not known, and there is some work that could be done there.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996490\" data-originallang=\"en\">I focused on the Criminal Code of Canada, which I recognize was a narrow scope to a degree, but you run a risk of trying to be all things to all people and not getting anywhere. Ultimately, there's another reality. The Corrections and Conditional Release Act doesn't influence the provincial institutions, and it's in the provincial institutions where we're finding most people being caught up in this revolving cycle.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996491\" data-originallang=\"en\"> This is an opportunity for the committee to talk to people who manage provincial institutions. We're dealing with people who are incarcerated for less than 45 days, but on a continuous cycle. Some of them will spend three, four, or five years incarcerated, but at 45 days at a time, and never enter the federal system. That invites a really good discussion around that.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"3996489\" data-originallang=\"en\">Il y a deux choses. D'une part, vous avez fait quelques recommandations que je consid\u00e8re valides, comme celle de consulter les rapports ant\u00e9rieurs, et je vous encourage certainement \u00e0 le faire. D'autre part, je ne me suis pas entretenu avec M. Sapers, en grande partie parce que mon projet de loi visait \u00e0 modifier le Code criminel du Canada et non pas la Loi sur le syst\u00e8me correctionnel et la mise en libert\u00e9 sous condition. Il y a toutefois du vrai dans ce que vous dites. Nous faisons face \u00e0 des lacunes, notamment en ce qui a trait aux diagnostics et au taux de pr\u00e9valence de l'ETCAF au sein du Service correctionnel du Canada, et il y a certainement du travail qui pourrait \u00eatre fait \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996490\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je me suis concentr\u00e9 sur le Code criminel du Canada, et je reconnais que mon projet de loi avait une port\u00e9e tr\u00e8s \u00e9troite, mais en essayant de plaire \u00e0 tout le monde, on n'aboutit \u00e0 rien. Au bout du compte, c'est une autre r\u00e9alit\u00e9. La Loi sur le syst\u00e8me correctionnel et la mise en libert\u00e9 sous condition n'a aucune influence sur les \u00e9tablissements provinciaux, et c'est dans ces \u00e9tablissements que se trouvent la plupart des gens pris dans ce cycle de la criminalit\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"3996491\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le comit\u00e9 a la possibilit\u00e9 de parler aux responsables des \u00e9tablissements provinciaux, car nous avons affaire ici \u00e0 des gens qui sont d\u00e9tenus moins de 45 jours, mais de fa\u00e7on continue. Certains d'entre eux passeront trois, quatre, voire cinq ans en prison, mais 45 jours \u00e0 la fois, et n'entreront jamais dans le syst\u00e8me f\u00e9d\u00e9ral. Cela devrait donc \u00eatre \u00e0 la base d'une bonne discussion.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/committees/justice/41-2/64/ryan-leef-23/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/ryan-leef/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4099/",
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    "source_id": "8596322",
    "document_url": "/committees/justice/41-2/64/",
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