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{
    "time": "2011-10-25 09:40:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Kyle Seeback (Brampton West, CPC)",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"2544217\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you, Mr. Chair.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2544218\" data-originallang=\"en\">I want to ask a couple of question of the Association des centres jeunesse du Qu\u00e9bec. Unfortunately, it's going to be in English, because my French is not up to what it should be. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2544219\" data-originallang=\"en\">You made a number of points, in one of which you state that denunciation should not be part of the criminal justice system. What I find interesting is that we often talk about not wanting to fetter a judge's discretion. Many people who have come here to this committee have said we should not have mandatory minimum sentences, because having them takes away a judge's discretion. From my review, adding denunciation is just giving a judge another tool to use discretion in certain cases. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2544220\" data-originallang=\"en\">With that in mind, many of us here in the greater Toronto area remember the case of Stefanie Rengel, who was murdered in a plot between a boyfriend and a girlfriend. The girlfriend was jealous of what she thought was some flirtation going on with her boyfriend. They plotted this murder, and she was stabbed to death in front of her parents' home. I don't understand how you can say that denunciation of a crime like that should not be considered by a judge.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2544221\" data-originallang=\"en\">Can you please comment on that?</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"2544217\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2544218\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'aimerais poser quelques questions \u00e0 l'Association des centres jeunesses du Qu\u00e9bec. Malheureusement, je vais les poser en anglais, parce que mon fran\u00e7ais n'est pas ce qu'il devrait \u00eatre. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2544219\" data-originallang=\"en\">Vous avez fait un certain nombre de remarques et selon l'une d'entre elles, vous dites que la d\u00e9nonciation ne devrait pas faire partie du syst\u00e8me de justice p\u00e9nale. Je trouve int\u00e9ressant que nous parlions souvent de ne pas entraver le pouvoir discr\u00e9tionnaire des juges. De nombreux t\u00e9moins ont comparu devant le comit\u00e9 et ont d\u00e9clar\u00e9 qu'il ne faudrait pas adopter des peines minimales obligatoires, parce qu'elles suppriment le pouvoir discr\u00e9tionnaire des juges. D'apr\u00e8s ce que j'ai lu, le fait d'ajouter la d\u00e9nonciation revient \u00e0 accorder \u00e0 un juge un autre outil pour exercer son pouvoir discr\u00e9tionnaire dans certains cas. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2544220\" data-originallang=\"en\">Compte tenu de tout cela, il y a beaucoup de r\u00e9sidents de la r\u00e9gion m\u00e9tropolitaine de Toronto qui se souviennent du cas de Stefanie Rengel, qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 assassin\u00e9e \u00e0 la suite d'un complot qu'avaient tram\u00e9 un gar\u00e7on et sa petite amie. La petite amie \u00e9tait jalouse de ce qu'elle pensait \u00eatre un flirt entre la victime et son ami \u00e0 elle. Ils ont planifi\u00e9 ce meurtre, et elle a \u00e9t\u00e9 tu\u00e9e \u00e0 coups de couteau devant la maison de ses parents. Je ne comprends pas comment vous pouvez dire qu'un juge ne devrait pas envisager la d\u00e9nonciation \u00e0 l'\u00e9gard d'un crime de ce genre. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2544221\" data-originallang=\"en\">Pouvez-vous me commenter cela?</p>"
    },
    "url": "/committees/justice/41-1/7/kyle-seeback-1/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/kyle-seeback/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4074/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "4436311",
    "document_url": "/committees/justice/41-1/7/",
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}