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{
"time": "2006-10-04 17:00:00",
"attribution": {
"en": "Mr. Guy Andr\u00e9 (Berthier\u2014Maskinong\u00e9, BQ)",
"fr": ""
},
"content": {
"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"196518\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Thank you, Mr. Chairman.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196519\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I would like to begin by welcoming our witnesses.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196520\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I would just like to quickly react to some of the things that have been said here today. I am a social worker by profession. This is the first time I have sat on the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights. My initial reaction is to say that we know full well that social conditions have a tremendous impact on crime rates, because a lot of people are disadvantaged and lack appropriate social supports. Often there will be higher crime rates in these groups. As a result, when social programs are severely cut back -- this is a message for the Conservatives -- crime rates go up.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196521\" data-originallang=\"fr\">My question is for Mr. Muise, and I would ask all of you to comment as well. As you and I both know, <a data-HoCid=\"2172003\" href=\"/bills/39-1/C-9/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Criminal Code (conditional sentence of imprisonment)\">Bill C-9</a> adds to the list of offences for which a judge will no longer be able to hand down a conditional sentence, even when he determines, based on all the facts, that it would be the most appropriate sentence.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196522\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Mr. Muise, you seem to favour that direction. You basically agree with the idea of adding to the list of offences for which conditional sentences will no longer be available.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196523\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Do you have any statistics or other certain facts that have led you to take that position, basically saying that we should be criminalizing more people and putting people in jail as if prisons were places where there can be social rehabilitation?</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196524\" data-originallang=\"fr\">In Quebec, we very much believe in prevention. We also believe in criminalization, because in some cases, that is the best solution. However, prisons are not places where there can be social rehabilitation. I don't believe that putting someone in prison for ten years and not giving him an occasional opportunity to reintegrate into society via various programs -- as Ms. Schurman was also saying -- is a better option. All the money that will be invested in these prisons, because of longer sentences could, in my opinion, be more effectively invested in measures aimed at social reintegration.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196525\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Are there any statistics that have led you to take this position? I would also be interested in hearing from Ms. Schurman on this, as well as from the others.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"196518\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Bonjour, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196519\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Bonjour aux t\u00e9moins.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196520\" data-originallang=\"fr\">J'aimerais vous faire part rapidement de ma r\u00e9action face \u00e0 certains propos qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 tenus ici. Je suis travailleur social de m\u00e9tier. C'est la premi\u00e8re fois que je si\u00e8ge au Comit\u00e9 permanent de la justice et des droits de la personne. Mon premier r\u00e9flexe est de dire qu'on sait tr\u00e8s bien que les conditions sociales des individus influencent beaucoup le taux de criminalit\u00e9, puisqu'on retrouve beaucoup de gens dans des couches d\u00e9favoris\u00e9es, en manque de soutien social. Souvent, il y aura un taux de criminalit\u00e9 plus \u00e9lev\u00e9. Par cons\u00e9quent, lorsqu'on sabre dans les programmes sociaux \u2014 c'est un petit message aux conservateurs \u2014, on augmente par le fait m\u00eame le taux de criminalit\u00e9.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196521\" data-originallang=\"fr\">La question s'adresse \u00e0 M. Muise, et j'aimerais entendre les commentaires de chacun l\u00e0-dessus. Le <a data-HoCid=\"2172003\" href=\"/bills/39-1/C-9/\" title=\"An Act to amend the Criminal Code (conditional sentence of imprisonment)\">projet de loi C-9</a> allonge la liste d'infractions pour lesquelles un juge ne pourra plus recourir \u00e0 l'emprisonnement avec sursis, vous le savez autant que moi, m\u00eame lorsqu'il trouve, \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re de tous les faits, qu'il s'agirait de la peine la plus appropri\u00e9e.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196522\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Monsieur Muise, vous semblez en faveur de cette orientation. Vous \u00eates d'accord, dans le fond, pour allonger la liste des infractions pour lesquelles on ne pourra pas obtenir une peine d'emprisonnement avec sursis. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196523\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Avez-vous des statistiques, des faits qui vous am\u00e8nent \u00e0 tenir ces propos, \u00e0 dire qu'on doit criminaliser davantage, emprisonner davantage, comme si les lieux d'emprisonnement \u00e9taient des lieux de r\u00e9habilitation sociale? </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196524\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Au Qu\u00e9bec, on croit beaucoup \u00e0 la pr\u00e9vention. On croit aussi \u00e0 la criminalisation, parce que dans certains cas, c'est la meilleure solution. Cependant, les lieux d'emprisonnement ne sont pas des lieux de r\u00e9habilitation sociale. Je ne crois pas qu'emprisonner quelqu'un pendant 10 ans et ne pas lui permettre d'avoir quelquefois l'occasion de se r\u00e9ins\u00e9rer dans la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 par le moyen de programmes \u2014 comme Me Schurman l'indiquait \u00e9galement \u2014 soit plus avantageux. Tout l'argent qu'on investira dans les prisons \u00e0 la suite de ces peines d'emprisonnement plus longues serait, selon moi, mieux investi dans des mesures de r\u00e9insertion sociale. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"196525\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Y a-t-il des statistiques qui vous am\u00e8nent \u00e0 adopter cette position? J'aimerais aussi entendre Me Schurman \u00e0 ce sujet, de m\u00eame que les autres.</p>"
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