{"time": "2006-09-28 16:05:00", "attribution": {"en": "Mr. Brian Murphy (Moncton\u2014Riverview\u2014Dieppe, Lib.)", "fr": ""}, "content": {"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"184861\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you, Mr. Chairman.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"184862\" data-originallang=\"en\">First of all, I want to thank the witnesses for their evidence. We did receive the handout from the John Howard Society. I noticed that the other parties were referring to some text. It might be quite helpful to us, if it didn't impinge on your rights, to give us copies of those, which the clerk could distribute. There were some figures in there that were quite interesting.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"184863\" data-originallang=\"en\">There has been a lot of talk and concern about the victims. I think that's fair game; we're concerned about them as well as the criminals. In that light I would defer mostly in this line of questioning to you, Mrs. Gray-Donald, relative to whom you represent and how you get your information.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"184864\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I feel the passion and the emotion of what you said--I represent a community, and I mean, it's all through Canada. I was wondering if you could give us a brief overview of your clients: who they are; how they come to you; how you determine, when you make a statement, that you have statistical, objective evidence to back it up, because we do all understand and feel the emotional, subjective side of it. </p>", "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"184861\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"184862\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je tiens d'abord \u00e0 remercier les t\u00e9moins de leur pr\u00e9sence. Nous avons re\u00e7u le m\u00e9moire de la Soci\u00e9t\u00e9 John Howard. J'ai constat\u00e9 que les autres parties faisaient r\u00e9f\u00e9rence \u00e0 un texte. Il pourrait nous \u00eatre tr\u00e8s utile, si \u00e7a ne portait pas atteinte \u00e0 vos droits, de nous en donner des exemplaires que le greffier pourrait distribuer. Il y avait des chiffres tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressants.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"184863\" data-originallang=\"en\">On a beaucoup parl\u00e9 des victimes. Je pense que c'est normal, nous sommes tous pr\u00e9occup\u00e9s par elles ainsi que par les criminels. Dans ce contexte, je m'adresse essentiellement \u00e0 vous, Mme Gray-Donald, \u00e9tant donn\u00e9 qui vous repr\u00e9sentez et comment vous obtenez vos informations.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"184864\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'ai ressenti la passion et l'\u00e9motion dans ce que vous avez dit -- je repr\u00e9sente une communaut\u00e9 et, je veux dire, c'est partout au Canada. Je me demandais si vous pourriez nous donner un bref aper\u00e7u de vos clients : qui sont-ils? Comment viennent-ils \u00e0 vous? Comment d\u00e9terminez-vous, quand vous faites une d\u00e9claration, que vous avez des donn\u00e9es statistiques objectives qui la justifient, car nous comprenons tous et ressentons l'aspect \u00e9motionnel et subjectif de \u00e7a?</p>"}, "url": "/committees/justice/39-1/17/brian-murphy-1/", "politician_url": "/politicians/brian-murphy/", "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/519/", "procedural": false, "source_id": "1661922", "document_url": "/committees/justice/39-1/17/", "related": {"document_speeches_url": "/speeches/?document=%2Fcommittees%2Fjustice%2F39-1%2F17%2F"}}