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{
    "time": "2024-11-04 16:55:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Mr. Chandra Arya (Nepean, Lib.)",
        "fr": "M. Chandra Arya (Nepean, Lib.)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"8702446\" data-originallang=\"en\">I listened carefully to Mr. Perkins and Mr. Patzer. I did not hear any valid reason we should go ahead with it.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8702447\" data-originallang=\"en\">I completely agree with Mr. Garon. He put it so eloquently, as you said\u2014it's a standard I could never achieve in my life\u2014and every point he made is quite valid.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8702448\" data-originallang=\"en\">If there is any improper administration in giving this grant or support to Mastercard, or, for that matter, any other organization, I would certainly support looking into it in depth and finding out the truth about it, but it is just a matter of time and a waste of our time\u2014the committee's time and the government's work.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8702449\" data-originallang=\"en\">The objective of this motion is probably to gum up the government's work and the bureaucrats' work, so that the government can't function. Maybe that is the objective, like what we see happening in the House of Commons. It's probably the same objective here.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"8702446\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'ai \u00e9cout\u00e9 attentivement MM. Perkins et Patzer. Je n'ai pas entendu de raison valable d'aller de l'avant.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8702447\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je suis tout \u00e0 fait d'accord avec M. Garon. Il s'est exprim\u00e9 si \u00e9loquemment, comme vous l'avez dit \u2014 jamais je n'arriverai \u00e0 l'\u00e9galer \u2014, et tous ses arguments \u00e9taient valables.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8702448\" data-originallang=\"en\">Si la subvention ou la contribution avait \u00e9t\u00e9 octroy\u00e9e arbitrairement \u00e0 Mastercard \u2014 ou \u00e0 n'importe quelle autre organisation \u2014, j'appuierais la proposition d'examiner attentivement le dossier pour d\u00e9couvrir la v\u00e9rit\u00e9. Toutefois, en l'occurrence, le seul but est de perdre du temps \u2014 le temps du Comit\u00e9 et le temps du gouvernement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"8702449\" data-originallang=\"en\">La motion vise sans doute \u00e0 nuire aux travaux du gouvernement et de la fonction publique, afin d'emp\u00eacher le gouvernement de fonctionner. C'est peut-\u00eatre l'objectif, comme ce qui se passe \u00e0 la Chambre des communes. L'objectif de la motion est probablement le m\u00eame.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/committees/industry/44-1/144/chandra-arya-1/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/chandra-arya/",
    "politician_membership_url": "/politicians/memberships/4210/",
    "procedural": false,
    "source_id": "12973073",
    "document_url": "/committees/industry/44-1/144/",
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}