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{
"time": "2010-08-27 09:25:00",
"attribution": {
"en": "Mr. Michael Ornstein (Member, Research Advisory Committee, Canadian Association of University Teachers)",
"fr": ""
},
"content": {
"en": "<p data-HoCid=\"2072194\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thanks, Jim.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072195\" data-originallang=\"en\">Let me start by asking, what is distinct about the mandatory long-form census? </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072196\" data-originallang=\"en\">First, the response rate is very high, so the measure is free from bias to the maximum extent possible. This is just as important as the size of the sample.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072197\" data-originallang=\"en\"> Second, the questionnaire includes a great variety of questions. These are important not only because they're important individually, but because of the way they're combined. People have talked about cutting down the length of the survey, but that cuts down the ability to look at a variety of different things. For example, you might be interested in the poverty rates of children, but as a global statistic, that's a lot less interesting, in a way, than knowing how poverty rates of children vary across the country, among ethno-racial groups, for aboriginal communities, and so on.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072198\" data-originallang=\"en\">Third, the long-form sample is very large, so we get accurate statistics from small communities in rural areas for individual racialized groups, and so on. None of Statistics Canada's smaller surveys is a substitute for the census for this reason.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072199\" data-originallang=\"en\">Fourth, because there is a great deal of overlap in the questions from one census to the next, it is possible to measure change over time very accurately. Often the change is as important an indicator as the absolute level. So we talk about the aging of the workforce, not the age of the workforce. The critical thing is the change.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072200\" data-originallang=\"en\">Much of the information obtained from the census is not available from any other survey, particularly questions dealing with racialization and immigration.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072201\" data-originallang=\"en\">Finally, questions asked in the census are decided in a painstakingly careful process. The size of the enterprise and its cost are so large, there's a detailed rationale for the inclusion of every single question. </p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072202\" data-originallang=\"en\">So the question is, why is there a problem with the proposed voluntary survey? In answer, the critical thing is that the response rate will be between 60% and 75% and the results will be biased by non-response. This is because the people who do not answer the survey are different from those who do. We know the response is lower among young people, more mobile people, poorer people, and so on. The problem is that with the switch from the mandatory census, it's not simply that the content of the survey is changed, but the critical thing is that change from one census to another can't be distinguished from non-response bias when you move from a survey with 4% or 5% non-response to 25% or 30% non-response.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072203\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you.</p>",
"fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"2072194\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci, Jim.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072195\" data-originallang=\"en\">Permettez-moi de commencer par vous parler de ce qui est diff\u00e9rent avec le questionnaire d\u00e9taill\u00e9 \u00e0 participation obligatoire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072196\" data-originallang=\"en\">Tout d'abord, le taux de r\u00e9ponse est tr\u00e8s \u00e9lev\u00e9, de sorte que la mesure ne montre aucune d\u00e9viation syst\u00e9matique des r\u00e9ponses, autant que faire se peut. Et c'est tout aussi important que la taille de l'\u00e9chantillon.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072197\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ensuite, le questionnaire contient une grande vari\u00e9t\u00e9 de questions. Celles-ci sont importantes en soi, mais aussi en raison de la mani\u00e8re dont elles sont agenc\u00e9es. Des gens ont demand\u00e9 que le questionnaire soit raccourci, mais cela nuit \u00e0 la capacit\u00e9 d'examiner toute une s\u00e9rie d'\u00e9l\u00e9ments diff\u00e9rents. Par exemple, vous pouvez vous int\u00e9resser aux taux de pauvret\u00e9 infantile, mais comme statistique globale, c'est beaucoup moins int\u00e9ressant, d'une certaine mani\u00e8re, que de savoir comment les taux de pauvret\u00e9 infantile varient dans le pays, selon les groupes ethno-raciaux, les collectivit\u00e9s autochtones, etc.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072198\" data-originallang=\"en\">Par ailleurs, l'\u00e9chantillonnage du formulaire d\u00e9taill\u00e9 est tr\u00e8s grand, de sorte que l'on obtient des statistiques exactes de la part de petites communaut\u00e9s dans des zones rurales pour des groupes raciaux pr\u00e9cis, etc. Aucune des petites enqu\u00eates r\u00e9alis\u00e9es par Statistique Canada ne peut se substituer au recensement pour autant.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072199\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'ajouterais qu'\u00e9tant donn\u00e9 que les questions se chevauchent beaucoup d'un recensement \u00e0 l'autre, il est possible de mesurer les changements au fil du temps avec une tr\u00e8s grande pr\u00e9cision. Souvent, le changement est un indicateur aussi important que le niveau absolu. On parle donc du vieillissement de la main-d'oeuvre, pas de l'\u00e2ge de la main-d'oeuvre. Ce qui compte, c'est le changement.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072200\" data-originallang=\"en\">Beaucoup de l'information obtenue au moyen du recensement ne se retrouve pas dans d'autres enqu\u00eates, notamment les questions ayant trait \u00e0 la racialisation et \u00e0 l'immigration.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072201\" data-originallang=\"en\">Enfin, les questions pos\u00e9es dans le formulaire de recensement sont choisies au terme d'un processus tr\u00e8s minutieux. Il s'agit d'une entreprise de grande envergure qui co\u00fbte tr\u00e8s cher, et on est capable de justifier de fa\u00e7on d\u00e9taill\u00e9e chaque question qui y figure.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072202\" data-originallang=\"en\">Alors, pourquoi l'enqu\u00eate \u00e0 participation volontaire propos\u00e9e poserait probl\u00e8me? Parce que l'on craint que le taux de r\u00e9ponse soit de l'ordre de 60 \u00e0 75 p. 100 et que les r\u00e9sultats soient alt\u00e9r\u00e9s par les non-r\u00e9ponses. Cela tient au fait que les personnes qui ne r\u00e9pondent pas au questionnaire sont diff\u00e9rentes de celles qui y r\u00e9pondent. Nous savons que le taux de r\u00e9ponse est plus bas chez les jeunes, les personnes mobiles ou les pauvres, etc. Le probl\u00e8me, c'est qu'en renon\u00e7ant au questionnaire d\u00e9taill\u00e9 \u00e0 participation obligatoire, non seulement on modifie le contenu du sondage, mais en plus, fait inqui\u00e9tant, les changements d'un recensement \u00e0 l'autre ne peuvent \u00eatre per\u00e7us \u00e0 partir du biais dans les non-r\u00e9ponses lorsqu'on passe d'un sondage avec 4 ou 5 p. 100 de non-r\u00e9ponses \u00e0 une enqu\u00eate o\u00f9 le taux de non-r\u00e9ponse oscille entre 25 et 30 p. 100.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"2072203\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci.</p>"
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