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{
    "time": "2007-02-13 12:45:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Ms. Nancy Karetak-Lindell (Nunavut, Lib.)",
        "fr": ""
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"450579\" data-originallang=\"en\">Thank you, Mr. Chair.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450580\" data-originallang=\"en\">I guess mine is more of a comment than anything else.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450581\" data-originallang=\"en\">When we look at the numbers, and also the numbers we got from Statistics Canada and comments made by my colleagues, the numbers are very clear that unless you make greater investments now, you cannot meet the needs of the housing requirements for aboriginal communities.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450582\" data-originallang=\"en\">From the brief, I know that Nunavut is probably the territory that has the most need. For the number of dollars, you're always going to get fewer houses there because the costs are higher. For the <em>x</em> number of dollars that you can build maybe 10 houses, you're only going to build five in Nunavut because of the extra costs.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450583\" data-originallang=\"en\">I appreciate the information that you gave. I know that some of the questions that were asked are really political questions that can be answered only by the minister--and political will by a government to invest the right number of dollars. I appreciate where you're coming from, and I know that housing has improved.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450584\" data-originallang=\"en\"> I worked in the housing sector as manager of social housing. I understand that unless you get more investment to meet the growing needs, you can't catch up. A one-time investment is not going to do it. It has to be a continual and greater number each year just because of the facts. The statistics state that. I'm sure you're all going to agree that unless you're putting in more now than is needed, you're never going to catch up. That's reality. I'm sure no one can refute that.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450585\" data-originallang=\"en\">My push is that there has to be the proper investment and the proper resources. It's a basic need. It's a blot on Canada's international standing to have that disparity between aboriginal communities and the rest of the country. So this is more a comment than anything else: unless we invest more today, we're never going to catch up.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450586\" data-originallang=\"en\">I know there was a question by Anita on the fee simple, and there was no time for an answer.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"450579\" data-originallang=\"en\">Merci, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450580\" data-originallang=\"en\">C'est plut\u00f4t une observation que j'ai \u00e0 faire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450581\" data-originallang=\"en\">Si nous consid\u00e9rons les chiffres, ainsi que les donn\u00e9es de Statistique Canada et les observations de mes coll\u00e8gues, il est tr\u00e8s clair que, \u00e0 moins d'investissements plus importants d\u00e8s maintenant, vous ne pourrez pas r\u00e9pondre aux besoins en logements des collectivit\u00e9s autochtones.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450582\" data-originallang=\"en\">Le m\u00e9moire m'apprend que le Nunavut est probablement le territoire o\u00f9 les besoins sont les plus criants. \u00c0 montant \u00e9gal, on y construit toujours moins de maisons, parce que les co\u00fbts sont plus \u00e9lev\u00e9s. Si un certain montant permet de b\u00e2tir ailleurs une dizaine de maisons, au Nunavut, on ne peut en construire que cinq, \u00e0 cause des co\u00fbts suppl\u00e9mentaires.<em></em></p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450583\" data-originallang=\"en\">Je vous suis reconnaissante de l'information que vous avez donn\u00e9e. Certaines des questions qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 pos\u00e9es sont au fond politiques, et seul le ministre peut y r\u00e9pondre \u2014 et il faut que le gouvernement ait la volont\u00e9 politique d'investir les montants n\u00e9cessaires. Je comprends o\u00f9 vous voulez en venir, et je sais que la situation du logement s'est am\u00e9lior\u00e9e.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450584\" data-originallang=\"en\">J'ai travaill\u00e9 dans le secteur du logement comme gestionnaire des logements sociaux. \u00c0 moins d'investissements plus consid\u00e9rables pour r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 des besoins croissants, on ne pourra jamais faire de rattrapage. Un investissement ponctuel ne peut faire l'affaire. La r\u00e9alit\u00e9 \u00e9tant ce qu'elle est, comme les statistiques le montrent, il faut un montant plus substantiel chaque ann\u00e9e. Je suis persuad\u00e9e que tous seront d'accord pour dire que, \u00e0 moins d'investir maintenant plus qu'il ne faut pour les besoins, on ne rattrapera jamais les retards. C'est la r\u00e9alit\u00e9. Personne ne peut prouver le contraire.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450585\" data-originallang=\"en\">Ce que je dis, c'est qu'il faut des investissements suffisants et des ressources qui sont \u00e0 la hauteur. Il s'agit d'un besoin fondamental. La disparit\u00e9 entre les collectivit\u00e9s autochtones et le reste du pays entache la r\u00e9putation internationale du Canada. C'est donc plut\u00f4t une observation que je fais: \u00e0 moins d'investir davantage d\u00e8s aujourd'hui, nous n'allons jamais rattraper le retard.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"450586\" data-originallang=\"en\">Anita a pos\u00e9 une question sur la pleine propri\u00e9t\u00e9, et il n'y avait pas assez de temps pour qu'on y r\u00e9ponde.</p>"
    },
    "url": "/committees/aboriginal-affairs/39-1/36/nancy-karetak-lindell-1/",
    "politician_url": "/politicians/149/",
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    "source_id": "1898807",
    "document_url": "/committees/aboriginal-affairs/39-1/36/",
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