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{
    "time": "2026-02-05 08:30:00",
    "attribution": {
        "en": "Andr\u00e9anne Larouche (Shefford, BQ)",
        "fr": "Andr\u00e9anne Larouche (Shefford, BQ)"
    },
    "content": {
        "en": "<p data-HoCid=\"9166643\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166644\" data-originallang=\"fr\">First, I'd like to reiterate that the request under Standing Order 106(4) was sent 48 hours in advance, which is the equivalent of two sleeps. That means I respected the deadlines; we respected the deadlines. We agreed to discuss my request under Standing Order 106(4), and I know there have been discussions on the Liberal side as well.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166645\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Journalists, particularly in Quebec, are currently getting calls from hundreds of seniors who haven't received their benefits for nine months\u2014as we can see in the letter\u2014because of the problems with the C\u00faram computer system. We don't have the figures; we have no way of knowing.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166646\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I received a message from an employee of the <a data-HoCid=\"318666\" href=\"/politicians/patty-hajdu/\" title=\"Patty Hajdu\">Minister of Jobs and Families</a>, who said that if anyone had problems, they could write to her. However, that's not what's needed.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166647\" data-originallang=\"fr\">I made a request under Standing Order 106(4) and tabled a motion to shed light on the exact number of seniors who are having difficulties with the processing of their pensions.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166648\" data-originallang=\"fr\">We want the committee to invite Patty Hajdu, Minister of Employment and Families, along with officials, and Jo\u00ebl Lightbound, <a data-HoCid=\"327396\" href=\"/politicians/joel-lightbound/\" title=\"Jo\u00ebl Lightbound\">Minister of Government Transformation, Public Works and Procurement and Quebec Lieutenant</a>, to appear for two hours each and answer the committee's questions about the C\u00faram software. The goal would be to develop a quick and effective action plan to resolve any issues concerning the processing of old age security claims and to provide an update on past and future cost overruns. We also ask that the ministers appear no later than February 26, 2026.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166649\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Seniors who are waiting deserve answers, as do public servants, who rated the C\u00faram software one out of 10. We're just looking for answers.</p>",
        "fr": "<p data-HoCid=\"9166643\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Merci beaucoup, monsieur le pr\u00e9sident.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166644\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Tout d'abord, je tiens \u00e0 rappeler que la demande en vertu du paragraphe 106(4) du R\u00e8glement a \u00e9t\u00e9 envoy\u00e9e 48 heures \u00e0 l'avance, soit l'\u00e9quivalent de deux dodos. J'ai donc respect\u00e9 les d\u00e9lais; nous avons respect\u00e9 les d\u00e9lais. Nous nous sommes entendus pour discuter de ma demande en vertu du paragraphe 106(4), et je sais qu'il y a \u00e9galement eu des discussions du c\u00f4t\u00e9 des lib\u00e9raux.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166645\" data-originallang=\"fr\">En ce moment, des journalistes, particuli\u00e8rement au Qu\u00e9bec, re\u00e7oivent des appels de la part de centaines d'a\u00een\u00e9s qui ne re\u00e7oivent pas leurs prestations depuis neuf mois \u2014 c'est ce qu'on peut voir dans la lettre \u2014, \u00e0 cause des difficult\u00e9s li\u00e9es au syst\u00e8me informatique C\u00faram. Nous n'avons pas les chiffres, nous n'arrivons pas \u00e0 le savoir.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166646\" data-originallang=\"fr\">J\u2019ai re\u00e7u un message de la part d'un employ\u00e9 de la <a data-HoCid=\"318666\" href=\"/politicians/patty-hajdu/\" title=\"Patty Hajdu\">ministre de l\u2019Emploi et des Familles</a>, qui disait que si on avait des probl\u00e8mes, on pouvait lui \u00e9crire. Toutefois, ce n'est pas de \u00e7a qu'on a besoin.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166647\" data-originallang=\"fr\">J'ai fait une demande en vertu du paragraphe 106(4) et j'ai d\u00e9pos\u00e9 une motion afin qu'on fasse la lumi\u00e8re sur le nombre exact d'a\u00een\u00e9s qui ont des probl\u00e8mes relativement au traitement de leur pension.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166648\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Nous voulons que le Comit\u00e9 invite \u00e0 t\u00e9moigner, pendant deux heures chaque, Mme Patty Hajdu, la ministre de l\u2019Emploi et des Familles, accompagn\u00e9e de fonctionnaires; et M. Jo\u00ebl Lightbound, le <a data-HoCid=\"327396\" href=\"/politicians/joel-lightbound/\" title=\"Jo\u00ebl Lightbound\">ministre de la Transformation du gouvernement, des Travaux publics et de l\u2019Approvisionnement</a>, afin que ceux-ci r\u00e9pondent aux questions du Comit\u00e9 au sujet du logiciel C\u00faram, dans le but d'\u00e9laborer un plan d'action rapide et efficace pour r\u00e9soudre les probl\u00e8mes li\u00e9s au traitement des demandes de prestations de la S\u00e9curit\u00e9 de la vieillesse et de faire le point sur les d\u00e9passements de co\u00fbts pass\u00e9s et \u00e0 venir. Nous demandons aussi que les ministres t\u00e9moignent au plus tard le 26 f\u00e9vrier 2026.</p>\n<p data-HoCid=\"9166649\" data-originallang=\"fr\">Les a\u00een\u00e9s qui attendent ont le droit d'avoir des r\u00e9ponses, tout comme les fonctionnaires, qui ont donn\u00e9 la note de 1 sur 10 au logiciel C\u00faram. Nous cherchons \u00e0 obtenir des r\u00e9ponses, tout simplement.</p>"
    },
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    "document_url": "/committees/human-resources/45-1/23/",
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